Deacon Blues
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If I was following, in a car, the rider in the first (top) video at night it would drive me bonkers. That's WAY too bright.
The best taillight on the market right now...
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BBassett
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I agree... I am trying to notify the drivers behind me that I am on the road... not antagonize them into aggressive feelings, let alone actions. Bright is important, so is strobing I believe, but not blinding. Maybe point it at the ground and ride inside a big glowing circle. I use Gramin's Varia on strobe whenever I am not dealing with encroach traffic, it even alerts to people walking up from behind.
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Ebiker01
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Between that that one and the Lupine there are advantages mostly on the side of Lupine:
-Brake sensor
- light sensitivity
- no xtra battery to hug around
They both have same Led’s, 2W and 6W for the DS. 160 is bright enough, 500 may be unnecessary and annoying ?
How much is the DS light ?
FlatSix911
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BBassett
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There is such a thing as too bright.
FlatSix911
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No such thing at too rich, strong or bright 
BBassett
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I drive some still and so I know better.
Command attention = YES Distract/Blind/Anger = NO
I don't like when drivers don't dip their lights for me, why should I feel justified destroying their night-vision while operating a motor vehicle? What if the upcoming driver just passed some other "justified" bike rider and can't see you now because of the huge spot dancing in front of their eyes? In Germany, they run a single Bright Fog Lamp on the rear of cars for safety (Autoban + Fog = BAD), it's not legal to use unless visibility is obscured. You can draw attention to yourself without overpowering the human optic nerve. A couple of lights strobing different patterns and different colors is easily doable and less expensively. Marker lights, actual turn signals, a working brake light. The two things I saw that I liked were the decelerometer and the build quality.
Command attention = YES Distract/Blind/Anger = NO
I don't like when drivers don't dip their lights for me, why should I feel justified destroying their night-vision while operating a motor vehicle? What if the upcoming driver just passed some other "justified" bike rider and can't see you now because of the huge spot dancing in front of their eyes? In Germany, they run a single Bright Fog Lamp on the rear of cars for safety (Autoban + Fog = BAD), it's not legal to use unless visibility is obscured. You can draw attention to yourself without overpowering the human optic nerve. A couple of lights strobing different patterns and different colors is easily doable and less expensively. Marker lights, actual turn signals, a working brake light. The two things I saw that I liked were the decelerometer and the build quality.
ChezCheese:)
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Aim it more downward rather than into drivers' eyes, too.
Ebiker01
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Found cheaper options
Cygolite Hypershot 350
Hypershot 350 USB
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Serfas Vulcan 350
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Lezyne Strip Pro 300
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NiteRider Omega 300
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The NiteRider® Omega™ 300 use three powerful LEDs to produce an outstanding 300 lumens of light output, making it the easy choice for road cyclists.www.niterider.com
See Sense ICON2 300
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Cheap b/c no Accelerometer sensor and no BRAKE light sensor !!
Trying to save 75-100$ and Ride an ebike w/o a brake light is very foolish.
Deacon Blues
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I'm glad to see that some of the 2020 ebikes available in NA now have factory brake lights. It's about time.
fooferdoggie
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I got one of these guys Bontrager Flare RT Rear they are bright but best of all the connect to my garmen gps and are automated. turns on and off with the gps can change brightness with the light and the speed you travel. theh eadlight would be daylight flashing in daylight then regular at nice and the faster you went the brighter it got. when you turn the gps off the lights turn off.
Deacon Blues
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I believe some of the Riese & Muelier models and at least one of the Bulls models. I can't remember the specific models.
Ebiker01
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But still no Brake Light ! How would a car know you just braked from 27mph ??
fooferdoggie
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you would need a dedicated light just for that. one thats only on when you brake my first ebike had that.
Ebiker01
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That’s why i made the post and educate the masses about the 135$ Rotlicht. It’s a taillight with brake light function based on accelerometer sensor.
They keep insisting on the Cygolite and the other crap. Those are lights for regular bikes.
You guys are not riding bicycles, you are on a powerfull and fast ebike. When you brake suddenly or less suddenly , nobody will know and the cars will bump right into the rear end.
Deacon Blues
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You're riding your ebike IN the car lane and not near the side of the road? If that's the case then a brake light is essential.
Handlebars
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I'm wondering what woud be entailed in hooking up an extra taillight to the brake lever power cutoff, so that it turns on when motor power is cut.
FlatSix911
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I have found it is best to have both types... a bright flashing unit and a brake sensing unit will provide the best of both worlds.
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