To the "Karens", and the "Carls" out there😂 Those riding dirty too.

[Chargeride]

Maybe it was confusion over terminology. This is the first time I've heard a coaster brake called a back pedal brake. To me, back pedal braking is how you stop without a braking device.

On a high-wheeler, you had to sit almost over the axle so pedaling wouldn't cause swerving. A brake would have been disastrous. Better chains made rear wheel drive possible. They called them safety bikes, but most weren't very safe because they preserved the horseman-like posture of the high-wheeler, with the seat almost over the pedals and the bars low and swept back. Maybe a safety bike wouldn't go end over end, but the rider could easily be ejected over the bars.

Brakes were seldom seen because many riders considered them dangerous. Even in the late 90s, avid cyclist and magnate George Eastman specified no brake, saying that the only safe way to stop a bike was by applying back pressure to the rotating pedals. That reflected a strong consensus in America.

Meanwhile, Wright Brothers' catalogues described the painstaking steps they went through in making bikes, starting with superb frames. It didn't seem feasible to do that for the small scale of sales their records reported. Due to their fame in aviation, the buyer of their shop preserved it. They weren't manufacturers but a front for a huge smuggling operation, which put most major manufacturers out of business by selling new bikes as refurbished.

The only thing they were equipped to manufacture was coaster brakes. That terminology suggests that the primary selling point was the freewheel, allowing a rider to coast down a hill without having to keep his feet on racing pedals.

In 1910, bicycles were still king in America. Even if you could afford a car, car tires were not yet pneumatic or tough. American cycling periodicals published pleas to accept coaster brakes, saying that the stopping distance really was shorter, and the difference could save a rider from being run down at a trolley crossing.

If Dutch riders don't like to coast down hills or cross trolley tracks, the shop owner may have been talking about what was for a long time considered to be the safest way to stop a bicycle.

Well he was Dutch and we both couldn't work out the phrase, they weren't fixed wheel, I spun them back to check.
There were no brakes as in not even levers on the bars.

 

[PedalUma]

Where did you find that photo?
Very becoming... and a more intelligent likeness than most of his pics

I have a German friend who comes up with this stuff. Someone out there is highly creative. It was first posted by Snoop Dogg at the end of January, 2017. I can imagine, maybe with the assistance of a little weed while having the munchies while making a sandwich. A.I. tags it as a mugshot.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/825869081005981696

 

[m@Robertson]

You said when every American has one, the authorities won't dare restrict them. I pointed to a place where everybody has one and there are restrictions, and you wish there were more.

Did you miss Cauberg? 440 feet
Keutenberg? 535
Mount St. Peter? 561
Eiserbrosweg? 633
Vrouwenheide? 692
Vaalserberg? 1058


I understood you to say that because everyone has one, the riffraff ruined it for everybody. In fact, Dutch law provides for the elite such as yourself. You need to present your superbike to them and demand a license and registration. The riffraff will know you're special when they see your plate, and you can legally go 130 km/h.

Gadzooks. How off-track can you get? But this is the internet, so the answer is "utterly".

You misunderstood my comment. That derailleur vs. fixie bit was an almost throwaway illustration to dryly note the ineffectiveness of a small minority to complain about something in wide use by the majority. Fixie riders were once the vast majority, very influential in cycling and they dictated terms on public opinion and competition (it took 38 years for the TdF to legalize the use of a derailleur. The guy below in the picture was instrumental in that). In the present day fixies are a tiny niche (fixies are never considered to be single-speed ebikes, even counting the Babymaker or the Luna Fixed which both took a fixie as their inspiration). As unimaginable as that shift away from fixed gears was then, so too is the inexorable shift to ebike ubiquity unimaginable now... to the haters at least. And they are growing fewer in number.

Fixie vs. derailleur refers back to a specific famous issue of cycling history that translates directly to today's hater/cheater scenario ... and we are slowly seeing the tide turn, just as it once did for fixies and derailleurs.

Doesn't that sound familiar if you change the equipment around just a little to be ebike and bike?

 

[fauconnier]

Ultimate fixie demonstration.

 

[m@Robertson]

Viola Brand! She does some big shows.

Notice how there's no freewheel on that bike. Another fixie thing. The pedals keep moving.

 

[PedalUma]

Viola is a Goddess. What if she had children with Dany McCaskill? He also has supernatural skills.

 

[PedalUma]

Acme. Wiley coyote will get his due. Beep, meep.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Should you be out riding its almost noon time.
I don't know wtf is in progress. Pakalolo, reef, volcano are all protected. We have plenty resources.
Narrow minded I had to web search the meaning.
I will add it to my dictionary.
Narrow minded = Stefan from Poland..

I have the internet, too.

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[Djangodog]

This thread was doomed from the time of its conception. It was off the rails by design. Just another troll stirring the waters under their bridge.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Me being the designated ball breaker of EBR... I don't mind the occasional mosh pit.
I find it a humorous distraction from mind numbing "how's your derailleur"

 

[mschwett]

Because of the terrain, it seems that there is little need for a wide range of gears or electric assistance in the Netherlands.

exactly.

lots of people ride bikes here for utility purposes, and probably 75% have a derailleur, another 20% an IGH of some sort, and 5% are single speed or fixies ridden by the young and generally very strong.

 

[m@Robertson]

"how's your derailure"

Since its the internet this is required by the rules ...

And so long as I have a theme going, re: the value of this thread

 

[Gionnirocket]

Since its the internet this is required by the rules ...
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And so long as I have a theme going, re: the value of this thread

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Corrected.
Typing without reading glasses.... I end up inputting haphazardly.. which ends up being saved in autocorrect.. which in turn ends up being the default suggestion.. which in turn my lazy ass goes for first

 

[PedalUma]

I once made a classic Dutch Omafiets electric. It was an extra-tall frame and a fun bike. A guy 6'6" could ride it. It had all the classic features such as internal gears and brakes, and the rear wheel lock. I then put a little dog named Toto in the basket.

 

[PedalUma]

without reading glasses

Like my buddy who looked up that wine he was sipping and telling me that it is worth $1110 per bottle! That was as fun for two minutes as thinking you won the lottery.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I wonder why the Americans have never simplified the spelling to "derailer" I know Sheldon Brown really tried...

 

[BlackHand]

I wonder why the Americans have never simplified the spelling to "derailer" I know Sheldon Brown really tried...

This thread is full of derailers.

 

[PedalUma]

 

[PDoz]

This thread is full of derailers.

For rant about whiners , it galvanized the hardtails, fixers, AND derailers . The perfect brake?

 

[PedalUma]

I am taking a not taking a brake but a brief break to check on the mangled wreck of this fun thread.

@Rome, on Jun 3, 2023, 280 people died in that train wreck in India. It took weeks to clear and 1/3rd of the bodies were never claimed. I am not about to post a video of it and would rather talk about bikes.

I did show a photo of Snoop Dogg on a bottle of wine. That wine was originally from Australia. It featured mug shots of people expelled from England to the prison colonies in Australia. There were 19 crimes where that was the sentence. One was impersonating a Muslim to do things on Sundays such as buying and selling, or cross-dressing.

I have two Shimano GRX gravel bikes today. What is weird about them is the smallest cog on the cassettes have 10 teeth not the typical 11. It is because the smallest three cogs thread into the forth smallest. I typically do not like non-standard options for maintaining things. Now parts for the ten-speed GRX setups are very hard to find so people are in a jam after buying into the latest and greatest.