specialized creo 2

[wattage_this]

Have you tried the Roval Terra seatpost? Got a Diverge on order with this post.

i bought one to replace the aluminum seat post that came with my 2023 Diverge E5 Elite. it has noticeable dampening/flex over an aluminum/standard seatpost and a good bit lighter. for the kind of gravel riding I do, totally a worthy upgrade.

 

[Easy-Rider]

Photos from today’s ride on the creo 2. Can you tell from the look on my face how much I’m loving it??

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Photos from today’s ride on the creo 2. Can you tell from the look on my face how much I’m loving it??

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Following in your footsteps there WildPaul, I’ve got mine on order and selling my CREO Expert Carbon EVO. How much weight did you shave off the bike with the mods?

 

[Dazmanturbo]

Following in your footsteps there WildPaul, I’ve got mine on order and selling my CREO Expert Carbon EVO. How much weight did you shave off the bike with the mods?

I have the Carbon Comp Creo 2 and I saved nearly 2kg with my mods. Cassette was swapped for Sram pg1210 to Garbaruk 10-50, wheels swapped to Newmen R38 with 28mm tyres, disc rotors swapped to Sram centrelines and tyres to Pirelli Cinturatu. I also removed the dropper and put in Ergon CF3, which really improved the comfort of the bike

 

[wattage_this]

I have the Carbon Comp Creo 2 and I saved nearly 2kg with my mods. Cassette was swapped for Sram pg1210 to Garbaruk 10-50, wheels swapped to Newmen R38 with 28mm tyres, disc rotors swapped to Sram centrelines and tyres to Pirelli Cinturatu. I also removed the dropper and put in Ergon CF3, which really improved the comfort of the bike

i'm considering getting this bike and curious if you primarily/exclusively on-road with 28MM tires. with 1x gearing, how does it ride as a road bike? have you done any long endurance rides with it that you could share your experience with the Creo 2?

 

[Twowheelxtc]

Just got an email to say my Creo 2 Expert is now ready at local Specialized shop. Really looking forward to getting it but definitely don’t want to getting wet and filthy on it’s first ride! Just had a 15 mile ride today on my belt drive Rohloff and that’s ideal for the wet and dirt in winter…..a quick hose down and that’s all the maintenance done! Roll on spring….. I’m so envious of you guys posting sunny dry pictures.

 

[Dazmanturbo]

i'm considering getting this bike and curious if you primarily/exclusively on-road with 28MM tires. with 1x gearing, how does it ride as a road bike? have you done any long endurance rides with it that you could share your experience with the Creo 2?

Not done any really big rides as yet as the winter weather in the UK is against it. I did a 30 mile ride and it was really good. I had the Creo 1 and two has a much finer motor and is a smoother ride. I am still doing a few mods to the bike (tubeless, Garbaruk 46T front chainring), but from the rides I have done so far, it is an excellent road bike. I have also run in power off to see what is rides like. With better weather I have a 100 mile route planned

 

[wattage_this]

@Dazmanturbo , appreciate the info, you'll have to share your century-ride experience when you get around to it. What's the reason for moving to the 46T? will that lend more to road-oriented (flatter) vs gravel (climbing hills)? i see many/most 1x gravel oriented specialized bikes, and others, using 40T or 42T

 

[mschwett]

That makes no sense. The only appreciable weight gain on the Creo2 models relative to the non-EVO Creo1 models is from the Creo2’s wheels, tires, and dropper post.

The non-EVO Creo1 models came with 28 & 30mm tires depending on model, with similar weights, and the ride on those is fine.

agree that there is no "need" for larger tires on either creo, the difference between a 15, 25, and 35lb bike isn't all that critical to tire loads. we're talking about 10% of the total load at most. and the frame of the creo 1 and creo 2 are essentially the same weight, as you note!

however, the downtube of either creo is gigantic to house the battery, and of course it connects to the chainstays, seat tube, and head tube, so you've got a very, very, very stiff frame. much more so than anyone would intentionally design a carbon fiber frame, and while i'm certain specialized thinned up the walls as much as is wise (given that the downtube has the battery in it and also has bottle bosses!) the ride is definitely very harsh compared to a super light carbon frame, or even an aero carbon frame.

pairing it with slightly larger tires is smart, IMO, and also "on trend." but they've gone too far for most road riders, 32mm tubeless is probably the sweet spot, IMO.

 

[pete1967]

agree that there is no "need" for larger tires on either creo, the difference between a 15, 25, and 35lb bike isn't all that critical to tire loads. we're talking about 10% of the total load at most. and the frame of the creo 1 and creo 2 are essentially the same weight, as you note!

however, the downtube of either creo is gigantic to house the battery, and of course it connects to the chainstays, seat tube, and head tube, so you've got a very, very, very stiff frame. much more so than anyone would intentionally design a carbon fiber frame, and while i'm certain specialized thinned up the walls as much as is wise (given that the downtube has the battery in it and also has bottle bosses!) the ride is definitely very harsh compared to a super light carbon frame, or even an aero carbon frame.

pairing it with slightly larger tires is smart, IMO, and also "on trend." but they've gone too far for most road riders, 32mm tubeless is probably the sweet spot, IMO.

Hm... I don´t have the feeling that the ride with the Creo 2 is very harsh. But I also can´t compare it with a normal road bike. Next spring I have the chance when I receive my new Roubaix SL8.

 

[AvalancheRun]

the ride is definitely very harsh compared to a super light carbon frame, or even an aero carbon frame.

It was for this reason that I went Diverge over Creo 2. Tested an S-Works Creo 2 against a Diverge Pro and the Diverge was noticeably smoother/more comfortable. C2 had 47 tires, Diverge had 42. Diverge is on the heavier side for its category too.

 

[mschwett]

It was for this reason that I went Diverge over Creo 2. Tested an S-Works Creo 2 against a Diverge Pro and the Diverge was noticeably smoother/more comfortable. C2 had 47 tires, Diverge had 42. Diverge is on the heavier side for its category too.

yep ! e bike riders have often not ridden a truly smooth, ride quality optimized bike. the creo is a really nice bike, i enjoyed mine a LOT, and didn’t think the ride was bad at all…. but ride it back to back with the otherwise very very similar roubaix, or better yet an aethos, and the impact of the beefy frame becomes clear.

 

[Easy-Rider]

I have the Carbon Comp Creo 2 and I saved nearly 2kg with my mods. Cassette was swapped for Sram pg1210 to Garbaruk 10-50, wheels swapped to Newmen R38 with 28mm tyres, disc rotors swapped to Sram centrelines and tyres to Pirelli Cinturatu. I also removed the dropper and put in Ergon CF3, which really improved the comfort of the bike

Thanks Dazmanturbo, I wonder if I could swap out the stock tires provided with the s works CREO 2 and use 32 mm tires. Would the stock Roval Terra clx wheels be compatible? I’m not sure if crank strike would be an issue.

 

[Dazmanturbo]

Thanks Dazmanturbo, I wonder if I could swap out the stock tires provided with the s works CREO 2 and use 32 mm tires. Would the stock Roval Terra clx wheels be compatible? I’m not sure if crank strike would be an issue.

I am running 28mm with zero issue or crank strikes. Provided the Roval's are 100mm from and 142mm rear, they will fit. The Zipps on my Roubaix fitted fine

 

[mschwett]

Thanks Dazmanturbo, I wonder if I could swap out the stock tires provided with the s works CREO 2 and use 32 mm tires. Would the stock Roval Terra clx wheels be compatible? I’m not sure if crank strike would be an issue.

the terra clx wheels work well with 32mm tires, been running that for a long time,

 

[Easy-Rider]

the terra clx wheels work well with 32mm tires, been running that for a long time,

Thanks mschwett and Dazmanturbo. Good to know

 

[pete1967]

I´ve seen the S-Works model now in person. My Specialized dealer received one model last week in size 54. It has a really nice paintwork. A dark grey which changes to a dark green towards the area where the motor is and the chainstays. With a hefty price tag on it. Of course

 

[PetroK]

The best I have found is the Ergon CF3 / Canyon VCLS 15 (they are the same seatpost, the companies are owned by brothers). That is what is going on to mine from my old Creo

What is CF3 model? On ergon website I see only CF Allroad Pro Carbon. Is it same one?

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[Dazmanturbo]

What is CF3 model? On ergon website I see only CF Allroad Pro Carbon. Is it same one?

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Just had a look and yes the All Road is the same post. I have the set back version. Split carbon leaf spring gives awesome comfort

 

[AvalancheRun]

Just had a look and yes the All Road is the same post. I have the set back version. Split carbon leaf spring gives awesome comfort

You were very right about the Roval Terra. It's OK, but doesn't do anything for really rough terrain. Have you compared the split carbon leaf to Redshift?

 

[PetroK]

Just had a look and yes the All Road is the same post. I have the set back version. Split carbon leaf spring gives awesome comfort

Compared to seat post that comes with Creo, does setback version move you further from handlebars? I really would like to get it, but unclear which version to select based on Creo 2 geometry