dengfu sell full bikes https://www.dengfubike.com/OK, I didnt know... Im quite a newbee on the topic unfortunately... Not aware if there are Bike shops who assembly parts bought somewhere else by a client..., I somehow doubt it..., but it's an interesting angle...
Many thanks for your thoughts, much appreaciated...!I've found the exact opposite of most of that to be true. Maybe I'm just using different tires? What bike and tires did you have? I will say the $10 (if that) tires that came on my wife's fatbike performed about like that...but I wouldn't expect a $10 MTB tire to perform well on a MTB either. Of course the OP isn't looking for challenging trail rides so it's moot to him.
To the OP: Were the fat bikes you tried hub drive? If so, keep in mind a mid-drive of the same power will perform much better on hills. I do agree with some here that you generally don't need a ton of power to do well on hills with a mid-drive, but "well" on a trail ride where lower speeds are acceptable and you're in it for "the experience" is different than what you're looking for. You're trying to get somewhere in a reasonable amount of time without having to do interval training at the same time. So I think you are on the right track looking for something with lots of power. To add a couple more to your possibilities that haven't been mentioned yet to your list:
SONDORS Mid-Drive 2020
shop.sondors.com
Not really high-end, but the cheaper bits can be upgraded. The LX might suit you well. They use the Bafang Ultra.
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Again, not super high-end but may get the job done for you. Quite a selection, some you may like use the BBSHD others use the Ultra either of which I think would be powerful enough to make you happy.
Yes, I've been made aware of this website..., I'll properly check later.., thanks
You haven't. https://www.dengfubike.com/ and https://www.dengfubikes.com/ are different. 1 sells complete bikes the other sells frames. but hey wtf would i know right?
Ok, thats just great, but may I assume its the same (Chinese) company for both..?
Hi J.R., thanks for your input, and indeed an amazing company with many bikes to choose from, unfortunately, no FAT TIRE bikes ;-)@DandyD can you import any bike you like into Spain? Bikes beyond the Euro standards (250 watts, etc...)? I've sent things to Europe and I know it doesn't always go smooth and taxes/duty can be expensive. It would be a shame to get hooked on a bike you cannot import.
You might want to consider BH ebikes:
BH Bikes
www.bhbikes.com
A Spanish company, in business more than 100 years under the same family ownership.
Best of luck!
Wow That E06 looks pretty tempting! i just wish the battery was bigger!
Thats why i'm having my battery built with the re-engineered case, those will be my everyday batteries whilst we work on the 'belly battery', which will protrude about 50mm from the bottom of the frame to accomodate pouch cells or......... 3d printed battery materials
Dengfu are OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) and ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) for many brands, names you have heard of, even before ebikes they were making quality carbon frames, their reputation is that good pushkar at wattwagons has staked his company on dengfu............hydra is dengfu frame. Hydra Black is..........
Aha... very interesting... learning some insiders know-how here as a newbee, thanks to the fabulous, active forum and its members..Thats why i'm having my battery built with the re-engineered case, those will be my everyday batteries whilst we work on the 'belly battery', which will protrude about 50mm from the bottom of the frame to accomodate pouch cells or......... 3d printed battery materials
Dengfu are OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) and ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) for many brands, names you have heard of, even before ebikes they were making quality carbon frames, their reputation is that good pushkar at wattwagons has staked his company on dengfu............hydra is dengfu frame. Hydra Black is..........
An Ultra Sondors came in with a shredded drivetrain today. It is getting a stronger chain (two of equal length joined) a new stronger gear cluster with a wider range, a long cage derailleur and a trigger shifter to replace the twist. The guy hates the knobby tires. Thanks tor the suggestion. I am sending him a link to the Vee tires. These 4.9's are way too fat and knobby.
Yes, mostly pavement.... So, you are saying the 26x4.8" offered by e.g. Wattwagons will be too bulky, and knobby design will be a negative instead of the general positive for an fat tire bike as towards a comfy ride..?
jeez, i thought Sonders tuned their Ultras down?
3.5 inch is still a fat tire, IMO. It's all personal preference. I lot of riders don't mind the noise of the knobby on the street but I hate it. The picture I posted is with the V Speedsters.
I've found the same. The more difficult the climb, the better off I am on my fatbike vs my trailbike. Loose dirt, sandy dirt, rocks, wet rocks, etc...the traction advantage is real.
I don't think anybody can answer that for you, maybe not even you until you try a given bike with a given amount of power. How much weight it's carrying, how steep your hills are and how fast you really want to go up them...too many variables. That's kind of why I was erring on the high side--there is a lot of collective experience out there with 1000W mid-drives showing they're pretty darn capable and will likely be a safe bet.
I think the frames are pretty well proven as being of good design and quality, given the number of people who have built bikes from them with good results and the manufacturers who are using their frames as their "flagship" models. As for their complete bikes, I should be able to shed some light on that soon. A couple of months ago I ordered one of those complete E06's mentioned by Haystacks which should be here any day now. I didn't want to build this one from scratch for various reasons so I'll get a complete bike out of the box and will upgrade from there. I got the "Economical" build so I expect it will come with some pretty cheap parts on it so I'll at least be able to offer some opinions on those parts before I upgrade them. The "Professional" build looks like it comes with some pretty good parts at a decent price, but not necessarily the parts I would choose, but it doesn't look to be a bad value compared with big name brands.
