What's your dream ebike?

David Berry said:
  • Reliability above all else - especially motor and gears.
  • Easy mount / dismount - strep-through frame, presumably.
  • Both feet on road at intersections - dropper post, please.
  • Road / trail-oriented full suspension.
  • Striking design - no need to pretend it's a traditional bike.
  • Electronic gear-shifting.
  • Integrated rear rack + quality handlebar bag.
  • Long-range battery.
  • Advanced ebike computer system to display and record ride info.
  • Front & rear lights.
  • Mudguards - a more appropriate word than 'fenders' where I ride!
  • Puncture-resistant tyres.
  • Safe to leave unattended - won't fall over (double-leg centre kickstand?); integrated locking system (in addition to cable or chain) to rival that on motorcycles.
  • A joy to behold and a delight to ride.
... David
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Sounds like you already have that bike on order...minus the dropper seat post and center kick stand. Clearly you can add the dropper seat post and an Ortlieb Pro Handlebar Bag. Not sure where you could mount the double-leg kickstand with the mid drive motor though.
 
David Berry said:
Timpo ...
I once owned a dream car: my dreams, my car.

I wonder whether it's still around; if so, it'll be celebrating its half-century in 2020.
... David
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I once had what you'd call a Dream Car. A 2005 MINI Cooper S convertible which I ordered to my spec and upgraded from there. It was a ridiculous amount of fun. But as for a bike..my Magnum Cruiser meets my needs and doesn't hurt my knees. One's priorities change don't they?
 
LewSchiller said:
I once had what you'd call a Dream Car. A 2005 MINI Cooper S convertible which I ordered to my spec and upgraded from there. It was a ridiculous amount of fun. But as for a bike..my Magnum Cruiser meets my needs and doesn't hurt my knees. One's priorities change don't they?
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Staying with the dream cars which preceded dream ebikes in old men thread, in 2004 for no good reason I purchased a Toyota MR-2 mid engine convertible. The car was great fun but actually had absolutely no trunk. For a weekend getaway the only place we could carry luggage for was a nudist resort. The car sat in our garage for 13 years and averaged 2,000 miles/year. We now ride more miles/year on our ebikes with less stress on our backs and maybe a little more trunk space.
 
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The industry is moving forward at such a fast pace, I think many of us will have our wishes come true and have new bike envy in a few years.. Sadly I don't think a used e-bike will command even half of it's purchase price just a year or two into ownership. Since our e-bikes were purchased for recreation only and it was such a large investment I don't see throwing many thousands of dollars at having the latest and greatest any time soon.
 
1. easy or minimal maintenance
2. 100 mile range in whatever level 2 or 3 assist would be on a battery that costs less than $250
3. weight under 40 pounds and able to pedal up hill without using assist
4. alarm system that links to my cell phone with camera monitoring, bike would be gps trackable
same camera system would warn me when cars are coming up behind me at more than 20 mph and
serve as rear view mirror.
5. bike would be foldable in under 45 seconds and fit in most car trunks and can be carried onto public transportation or checked
in on an airline.
6. 50 mile charge within 60 minutes and/or a system that allows me to charge anywhere without my charging
brick.
7. an auxiliary charging pack that weighs less than 1.5 pounds and powers my bike for 7 miles in eco mode. More or
less like an external battery for a cell phone. Can also be used as sole battery for running errands.
8. flatproof tires that change profile for different road conditions.
9. a truly stable and lightweight kickstand
10. bluetooth speaker/mike with wind noise cancellation that permits group conversation with fellow cyclist (s)
11. user programmable controller
 
My dream car I owned for over 20 years was my '87 Toyota Supra purchased only a year old in '88. Many happy years of fun and served me well as a vehicle I took on many road tips as well. Opened it up on a straight away doing approx 132mph. The ride was surprisingly stable at that speed. I also had 3 passengers in the car and there were no engine mods done to the vehicle. Fast and heavy car that impressed. The good ole days.
 
I'm seriously thinking about upgrading from my Juiced Bikes CrossCurrent S to the X version. If I can sell the CCS, I'll probably do it. That would meet a lot of the criteria for what I want in a bike, with the 52V battery and the newly re-programmed controller. Lighter weight would be great, but that would come at a cost I don't care to pay. So the CCX pretty much checks all my boxes. The only other thing I can think of is if my LBS was a Juiced Bikes dealer so I could buy locally, but JB is not going that route for the foreseeable future.
 
Mr. Coffee said:
There are an enormous number of great handlebar bags out there.

Ortlieb (of course), Arkel, Swift Industries, and North Street all make quality handlebar bags of various designs.
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The Ortlieb bag 387E86B9-5F66-41E8-ADEE-709C6E6C9FF2.jpeg
 
bob armani said:
My dream car I owned for over 20 years was my '87 Toyota Supra purchased only a year old in '88. Many happy years of fun and served me well as a vehicle I took on many road tips as well. Opened it up on a straight away doing approx 132mph. The ride was surprisingly stable at that speed. I also had 3 passengers in the car and there were no engine mods done to the vehicle. Fast and heavy car that impressed. The good ole days.
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I had the first year..an '82 Supra. It was sweet.
 
Dream Ebike would be the one that has some as of yet uninvented technology which completely erradicates the possiblilty of injuries from any accident , including the ones I braincramp .
 
I'm a bit late to this thread but wanted to weigh-in nonetheless. In Sept we closed on a new house and I've been so busy with home purchase and moving it about killed my bike commuting for over a month. But things are settling down and I finally got back in the saddle yesterday for a commute (on the R&M Charger GX) of 33 miles. One dream bike for me would be something close to the Desiknio Pinion in form. Or an electric version of my Spot Champa.

  • IGH paired with a belt
  • Stealth design of motor/battery
  • Flat bar bike with a touring geometry and lots of frame bosses for ability to configure various mounted items
  • Chromoly steel frame maybe carbon fork; or titanium frame
  • Light in weight relative to most electrics - say no more than 35-45 lbs (including fenders, rack...)
  • Light electric assist - not looking for a big battery with big range but light assistance in starting from a stop then ability for the rider to pedal without resistance. Want to ride this bike long distance but with rider doing most of the work.
  • Ability to ride as a non-electric
  • Ability to carry commuter cargo
  • No suspension forks but perhaps shock reducing stem and seatpost suspension
  • Tires about 40-45mm in width
  • Locking system for components for urban use (similar to Fortified Bikes)
  • High quality lighting system powered by dynamo hub (to reduce battery dependency)
Attaching a pic of my Spot - belt drive, steel frame, dynamo hub, Alfine 8. I've changed the bars since this pic was taken. I'd love a light electric version of this. Also Desiknio Pinion (if it really works - haven't seen any recent reviews since its launch). Maybe a light electric version of a Van Nicolas.

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Over50 said:
I'm a bit late to this thread but wanted to weigh-in nonetheless. In Sept we closed on a new house and I've been so busy with home purchase and moving it about killed my bike commuting for over a month. But things are settling down and I finally got back in the saddle yesterday for a commute (on the R&M Charger GX) of 33 miles. One dream bike for me would be something close to the Desiknio Pinion in form. Or an electric version of my Spot Champa.

  • IGH paired with a belt
  • Stealth design of motor/battery
  • Flat bar bike with a touring geometry and lots of frame bosses for ability to configure various mounted items
  • Chromoly steel frame maybe carbon fork; or titanium frame
  • Light in weight relative to most electrics - say no more than 35-45 lbs (including fenders, rack...)
  • Light electric assist - not looking for a big battery with big range but light assistance in starting from a stop then ability for the rider to pedal without resistance. Want to ride this bike long distance but with rider doing most of the work.
  • Ability to ride as a non-electric
  • Ability to carry commuter cargo
  • No suspension forks but perhaps shock reducing stem and seatpost suspension
  • Tires about 40-45mm in width
  • Locking system for components for urban use (similar to Fortified Bikes)
  • High quality lighting system powered by dynamo hub (to reduce battery dependency)
Attaching a pic of my Spot - belt drive, steel frame, dynamo hub, Alfine 8. I've changed the bars since this pic was taken. I'd love a light electric version of this. Also Desiknio Pinion (if it really works - haven't seen any recent reviews since its launch). Maybe a light electric version of a Van Nicolas.

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Maybe not as stealthy as you requested but the Rennstahl 853 E-Reiserad Rohloff E-14 is pretty neat.
https://www.radfahren.de/test-technik/rennstahl-853-e-reiserad-rohloff/

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PaD said:
An e-bike with theft protection:)
How about some login to battery and/or motor?
Go ahead and criticize the idea;)
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I think it's a good idea and wonder why it isn't done on every ebike.
 
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tompat said:
The Rennstahl 853 E-Reiserad Rohloff E-14 is pretty neat.
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I'll stick with modern and stealthy but the Rennstahl certainly appeals in the way that old-style Jeeps and Land-Rovers do to some 4x4 enthusiasts.

Translation: Masterpiece with Rohloff: 853 E-Reiserad with Rohloff transmission.

27 kg 6494 euros

Rennstahl specialises in custom-made wheels made with the highest quality components. Motto: maximum functionality down to the last detail. The 853 E-Reiserad Rohloff meets the highest demands:
  • finest steel frame, specially shaped for the Bosch dual-battery system (2 x 500 Wh capacity)
  • strongest Bosch CX
  • electronic Rohloff 14-speed gearbox
  • highly stable, in-house developed front and rear carriers - suitable for the maximum weight of 185 kilos
  • handlebar / stem combination from Ergon, Ergotec and Syntace
  • rigid instead of suspension fork
  • Schwalbe wide tires on high-quality rims, capped by wide wheel protectors
  • Supernova lighting system
  • Magura XL disc brake
  • Brooks red leather saddle.

Masterpiece?
Top sitting position, perfect ergonomics of the cockpit. The Brooks is almost settled after 150 kilometers. With proper thrust, the CX starts from 6th gear (the Rohloff automatically switches back to each stop, starting gear is adjustable). Via a slim Rohloff keyboard (slightly small buttons) the 14 gears are changed quickly (press longer = skip several gears). Effortless under load, relatively smooth, as the Bosch briefly reduces the thrust when switching and starts again quickly. The small mountain passes were due to the engine power only when payload in use. The wide tires combine over / ride comfort. The rigid fork favors agile driving performance. Straight-ahead: confident. The bike is perfectly balanced (among other things by its low center of gravity / arrangement of the batteries). Disc brakes: Top!

The Rennstahl 853 ebike Rohloff is a first-class e-bike, functionality and driving performance in perfection. Premium class savings are worthwhile again.
 
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