EddieJ
Well-Known Member
That is a question that I often hear asked on ebike forums.
The following is just my take on the subject specifically in relation tooff road use, away from any metalled/tarmac surface.
Looking briefly at tyres which is an all together different subject, many new eMTB's are supplied with very light weight tyres/tires and inner tubes, which whilst saving weight, do nothing in respect of puncture prevention. In many cases it is best just to bin the OE set up and start again.
Options for punctures resistant tyres are available, but for now, I won't bring that subject to the thread.
Looking at tubes, you have several options.
My preferred set up, and also the preferred set for many that ride off road, is to run what is known a tubeless set up.
Tubeless has several benefits which include the following.
I still don't rely on tubeless as being invincible though, and always carry both a spare tube, and a tubeless repair kit
Also very importantly. Don't go rushing out to buy a kit before first checking that your wheel/tyre set is tubeless compatible.
My initial findings using Stans No Tubes, was a dismal failure, and in my case the product just balled up inside the tyre, and had zero effect when needed just a few months later. Others have had no issues though.
My own preferred product to use, is one called Caffélatex. It seems to do exactly as described, and I now wouldn't use any other product. That is just my opinion though.
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When riding on the South Downs, I have had several quite large cuts from flint, which after rotating the wheel and applying finger pressure, have sealed back up, and not been a problem since.
The only downside that I have found, is when the time comes to swap tyres around and you then have sealant to remove and clean up from the bead and wheel rim.
With any sealant, you will still need to occasionally add new sealant as per manufacturers recommendations.
I would also advise carrying a tubeless repair kit such as this one shown below.
![ebr22.JPG ebr22.JPG](https://forums.electricbikereview.com/data/attachments/7/7893-84e9e9b347a4ecb2bd11827e776d85d1.jpg)
In respect of actually going tubeless, some OE wheels are now starting to be sold with tubeless rim tape already pre installed, but provided that your wheel set is tubeless compatible, it is no big issue to carry out the task.
Firstly you will need to remove the wheels and then the existing tyre and rim tape, then thoroughly clean the whole inside of the rim with isopropyl alcohol. I also prefer to slightly abrade the seat of the rim and clean again.
Many Youtube clips show the tape being applied whilst supporting the wheel between the knees and turning it slowly whilst applying the rim tape.
If a wheel stand isn't available to use, the best method that I have worked out, is to simply suspend the bike and refit the bare wheel, then starting about 6" beyond the valve stem hole, start to apply the tape keeping it very tight and even, and rotate the wheel whilst holding the tape taught. Finish by cutting the tape approx 6" beyond the valve stem hole in the opposite side to starting.
![ebr 2.JPG ebr 2.JPG](https://forums.electricbikereview.com/data/attachments/7/7902-d126ccdaae6f76ffc5a5039fd5db9a8f.jpg)
When completed, simply cut a simple cross hole through the tape at the valve stem hole, and insert the tubeless valve stem. Tighten the valve stem finger tight only.
The wheels can then be removed, and the tubeless tyres fitted, making sure to check that the tyre rotation is correct.
The photo below is actually of a tyre that is being removed after about 8 months of use, but roughly speaking when installing the tyres, fit to about this stage, carefully rotate the tyre, and finish fitting the tyre to the rim, making sure not to loose any fluid. Carefully rotate the tyre a few times, then inflate to the correct pressure, cleaning off any residue of sealant that may have bubble out.
![ebr23.JPG ebr23.JPG](https://forums.electricbikereview.com/data/attachments/7/7896-0c03b95df60e22363bd0f453d8a1d7d0.jpg)
I'll try to expand upon this thread when I return from my hols.![Smile :) :)](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
The following is just my take on the subject specifically in relation tooff road use, away from any metalled/tarmac surface.
Looking briefly at tyres which is an all together different subject, many new eMTB's are supplied with very light weight tyres/tires and inner tubes, which whilst saving weight, do nothing in respect of puncture prevention. In many cases it is best just to bin the OE set up and start again.
Options for punctures resistant tyres are available, but for now, I won't bring that subject to the thread.
Looking at tubes, you have several options.
- Thicker puncture resistant tubes
- Standard thickness, and fill with slime
- Dedicate slime tubes
My preferred set up, and also the preferred set for many that ride off road, is to run what is known a tubeless set up.
Tubeless has several benefits which include the following.
- Potential weight saving
- It is very puncture resistant
- A greater size hole can be self sealed without incident
- Tyres pressures can be run significantly lower with no risk of a pinch flat
- There is no risk of tearing valve out through tyre creep when running low pressures.
I still don't rely on tubeless as being invincible though, and always carry both a spare tube, and a tubeless repair kit
Also very importantly. Don't go rushing out to buy a kit before first checking that your wheel/tyre set is tubeless compatible.
My initial findings using Stans No Tubes, was a dismal failure, and in my case the product just balled up inside the tyre, and had zero effect when needed just a few months later. Others have had no issues though.
My own preferred product to use, is one called Caffélatex. It seems to do exactly as described, and I now wouldn't use any other product. That is just my opinion though.
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![ebr 21.JPG ebr 21.JPG](https://forums.electricbikereview.com/data/attachments/7/7890-14e84d1db8aaee585d9fdb583ef968f2.jpg)
When riding on the South Downs, I have had several quite large cuts from flint, which after rotating the wheel and applying finger pressure, have sealed back up, and not been a problem since.
The only downside that I have found, is when the time comes to swap tyres around and you then have sealant to remove and clean up from the bead and wheel rim.
With any sealant, you will still need to occasionally add new sealant as per manufacturers recommendations.
I would also advise carrying a tubeless repair kit such as this one shown below.
![ebr22.JPG ebr22.JPG](https://forums.electricbikereview.com/data/attachments/7/7893-84e9e9b347a4ecb2bd11827e776d85d1.jpg)
In respect of actually going tubeless, some OE wheels are now starting to be sold with tubeless rim tape already pre installed, but provided that your wheel set is tubeless compatible, it is no big issue to carry out the task.
Firstly you will need to remove the wheels and then the existing tyre and rim tape, then thoroughly clean the whole inside of the rim with isopropyl alcohol. I also prefer to slightly abrade the seat of the rim and clean again.
Many Youtube clips show the tape being applied whilst supporting the wheel between the knees and turning it slowly whilst applying the rim tape.
If a wheel stand isn't available to use, the best method that I have worked out, is to simply suspend the bike and refit the bare wheel, then starting about 6" beyond the valve stem hole, start to apply the tape keeping it very tight and even, and rotate the wheel whilst holding the tape taught. Finish by cutting the tape approx 6" beyond the valve stem hole in the opposite side to starting.
![t1.jpg t1.jpg](https://forums.electricbikereview.com/data/attachments/7/7899-3b890eb4a77a7272f9c21d3277dc5a4d.jpg)
![ebr 2.JPG ebr 2.JPG](https://forums.electricbikereview.com/data/attachments/7/7902-d126ccdaae6f76ffc5a5039fd5db9a8f.jpg)
When completed, simply cut a simple cross hole through the tape at the valve stem hole, and insert the tubeless valve stem. Tighten the valve stem finger tight only.
The wheels can then be removed, and the tubeless tyres fitted, making sure to check that the tyre rotation is correct.
The photo below is actually of a tyre that is being removed after about 8 months of use, but roughly speaking when installing the tyres, fit to about this stage, carefully rotate the tyre, and finish fitting the tyre to the rim, making sure not to loose any fluid. Carefully rotate the tyre a few times, then inflate to the correct pressure, cleaning off any residue of sealant that may have bubble out.
![ebr23.JPG ebr23.JPG](https://forums.electricbikereview.com/data/attachments/7/7896-0c03b95df60e22363bd0f453d8a1d7d0.jpg)
I'll try to expand upon this thread when I return from my hols.
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