Changing from Tubeless to Tube? Turbo Tero 6.0 X

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Hi, so I've had a Turbo Tero 6.0 X for awhile now and because I've been mainly trail riding I decided to buy a Turbo Levo Expert. Rather then sell the Tero 6.0 X which has lost more then half it's value, I decided to make it primarily into a commuter bike (yes kind of overkill for a commuter bike, mistakes were made) and wanted to swap out the tires to something more pavement friendly then the Ground Controls that are on them. After doing some research I decided the Schwalbe Al Grounder seemed like a good option so I bought a set. Then being the noob that I apparently am, I realized as I was changing the tires that the Ground Controls are tubeless and the Al Grounders are not.

So what would you guys do, switch to a tube setup with the Al Grounders or return the Al Grounders and buy a tubeless option instead? P.S. I kinda don't want to return the Al Grounders but if it's a dumb idea to switch to a tube tire from tubeless I will.
 
kencopen said:
Hi, so I've had a Turbo Tero 6.0 X for awhile now and because I've been mainly trail riding I decided to buy a Turbo Levo Expert. Rather then sell the Tero 6.0 X which has lost more then half it's value, I decided to make it primarily into a commuter bike (yes kind of overkill for a commuter bike, mistakes were made) and wanted to swap out the tires to something more pavement friendly then the Ground Controls that are on them. After doing some research I decided the Schwalbe Al Grounder seemed like a good option so I bought a set. Then being the noob that I apparently am, I realized as I was changing the tires that the Ground Controls are tubeless and the Al Grounders are not.

So what would you guys do, switch to a tube setup with the Al Grounders or return the Al Grounders and buy a tubeless option instead? P.S. I kinda don't want to return the Al Grounders but if it's a dumb idea to switch to a tube tire from tubeless I will.
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You literally only have to remove the tubless valve to change over. And to change back, install it. Nothing more is required. Well, adding a tube, of course :D
 
Be aware that if you reduce the tire size too much you will lose cushioning and you will also quicken the steering and change the handling of what is a heavy bike. If you do switch to a smoother road oriented tire you might want to keep it in the 2.0-2.2” wide range.

I have a Tero X6 and run a 29x2.35 Fast Trak Grid T7 in front and a 27.5x2.35 Rekon Race EXO TR in back. Tubeless of course. Happy so far. They provide enough tread for occasional off-pavement use but roll well on tarmac. They should prove more efficient than original Ground Controls for commuting.
 
kencopen said:
I realized as I was changing the tires that the Ground Controls are tubeless and the Al Grounders are not.
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It does not matter a tyre is declared as tubeless if it is used with the inner tube. Tero X 6.0 comes from the factory with the inner tube setup (not tubeless). Do you use Ground Controls with the inner tube? If yes, you can replace them with any tyre of the same size. Tubeless or tubed.
Yes, you can replace Ground Controls with Al Grounders of the same size (F: 29x2.35", R: 27.5 x 2.35") with no issue.
 
Stefan Mikes said:
It does not matter a tyre is declared as tubeless if it is used with the inner tube. Tero X 6.0 comes from the factory with the inner tube setup (not tubeless). Do you use Ground Controls with the inner tube? If yes, you can replace them with any tyre of the same size. Tubeless or tubed.
Yes, you can replace Ground Controls with Al Grounders of the same size (F: 29x2.35", R: 27.5 x 2.35") with no issue.
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For whatever reason, mine came tubeless. I bought it from a Specialized dealer and just took the front tire off yesterday. No tube.
The Al Grounders I bought are the same size as the Ground Controls, 29x2.35 and 27.5x2.35. I think i'll by some tubes and give em a try.
 
If it's your commuter/errand bike and it may sit unused for periods of time, I would go with tubes. I ride tubeless on my primary Creo but siting doesn't do the sealant any favors. My old commuter/errand Turbo-S doesn't get used as much as I'd like but it has Schwalbe Marathon's with green guard and it's ready to go as soon as I pump the tires.
 
Allan47.7339 said:
If it's your commuter/errand bike and it may sit unused for periods of time, I would go with tubes. I ride tubeless on my primary Creo but siting doesn't do the sealant any favors. My old commuter/errand Turbo-S doesn't get used as much as I'd like but it has Schwalbe Marathon's with green guard and it's ready to go as soon as I pump the tires.
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That is exactly the information I was looking for today. I want to change out my current CST E Series Pro tires for something that will not struggle on dirt & gravel (mostly hard packed I hope, but one never knows when a loose area might present itself). The LBS has some WTB Vulpines (not the "S") on hand, and since they can be run tubeless I was wondering about pros and cons of that option. This ebike might not get used a lot because I have another ebike that I'll probably ride more often.

I like that the Vulpines can be run as low as 25 PSI, it might be helpful on dirt.
 
stompandgo said:
Check out TPU tubes.
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I though first TPU tubes were some revelation but my first experience was negative. I installed new Aerothans on my Vado SL, clean rims and tyres. While the rear inner tube still holds the air, the front one was losing air overnight. I did a water test but could see no air bubble release anywhere, making the matter mysterious (yes I checked the entire valve, too). The inner tube when inflated loses the air in several hours. I decided the weight saving was not worth the trouble and installed a "good old" butyl tube instead. No issues afterwards.

Moreover, the plastic valve stem is smooth (unthreaded) so no nut can be used. Attach the pump and the valve goes inside the tyre.

Perhaps I'm too old for all these new inventions.
 
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