tomjasz
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I really like mine!
Reention Dorado 48V 25Ah 29Ah&36V 30Ah (505L) Replacement Battery for eBikes Surface 604,NCM,Rize,Magnum,Aventon
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We are building the first Polly 52V 25Ah for a Rize RX rider as the 2nd battery. Hope you can try the 48V 25Ah in the near future. It is compatible with your current DP-2170-5 mount plate.
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that's the DP-9 right?
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It is DP-2170-7, max 48V 25Ah by Samsung 50E cells, DP-9 max 48V 24.5Ah by Samsung 35E or Sanyo 18650GA cells.
DP-2170-7 size 368x95x156mm, DP-9 size 368x90x141mm. But both mount plates are interchangeable.
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Hi @Jenny Mao what battery do I need to the Aventon Level? Thank you!
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Hi Mohammed, it is SYR intergrated battery, called SYR002 Mustang-A, 340L, the plasitc cover length is about 340mm.
48V 14Ah is already the max option.
A type means the case has the bottom charging port, and it is also available for charging via the frame charging port, connected via the middle two pins among 4pin discharging port. (Sounds a bit complicated, pls refer the pics below.)
There is also similar B type, which has a side charging port. (e.g. Haoqi ebike uses all B types.)
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Thanks Jenny!
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Reention Polly DP-2170-7 52V 25Ah 1300Wh for 1000W Ebike Conversion or 2nd Battery
1) Battery Size 368x95x156mm
2) 14S5P Samsung 50E 21700 Cells Pack
3) 5Pin Discharging Port (Non-C/controller box version)
4) Reention 3Pin or ST-3Pin Charging Port
5) 30Amp BMS for max 1000W motor
6) Base Plate with 30cm XT60 female, Anderson, or customized
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1) Battery Size 368x95x156mm
2) 14S5P Samsung 50E 21700 Cells Pack
3) 5Pin Discharging Port (Non-C/controller box version)
4) Reention 3Pin or ST-3Pin Charging Port
5) 30Amp BMS for max 1000W motor
6) Base Plate with 30cm XT60 female, Anderson, or customized
[email protected]
[email protected]
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How much?
tomjasz
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Best to email Jenny for an accurate shipped price to your location.
For anyone who doesn't know what CAN and UART mean (I didn't!), I used my friend Google to find the following:
CAN Bus Explained - A Simple Intro [2024]
What is CAN bus? How to log CAN bus data? Where does J1939, OBD2, CANopen fit in? See our CAN protocol intro tutorial for the Controller Area Network basics!
www.csselectronics.com
What is UART
Communication and data transfer is an inevitable part of every electronic device. There are many protocols which organize data transmission.
www.solomotorcontrollers.com
IMHO, I don't think the battery cares what type of motor it is feeding the 52V to. It shoud work with either as long as the controller is rated for 52V.
However, I'll let Jenny respond.
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No, just no. IF the canbus controller uses the protocol, AND has a third communication wire a two wire typical UART battery will NOT function. And likewise the Canbus battery with a com wire will likely have a BMS preventing proper function with the typical two wire power lead system.For anyone who doesn't know what CAN and UART mean (I didn't!), I used my friend Google to find the following:
CAN Bus Explained - A Simple Intro [2024]
What is CAN bus? How to log CAN bus data? Where does J1939, OBD2, CANopen fit in? See our CAN protocol intro tutorial for the Controller Area Network basics!
What is UART
Communication and data transfer is an inevitable part of every electronic device. There are many protocols which organize data transmission.
IMHO, I don't think the battery cares what type of motor it is feeding the 52V to. It shoud work with either as long as the controller is rated for 52V.
However, I'll let Jenny respond.
GET THE BATTERY TYPE DESIGNED FOR YOUR SYSTEM.
Often batteries for Canbus and proprietary system will not function between brands, ie, Bosch, Yamaha, and their ilk.
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We already exchanged emails, thank you!
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Hello, I agree with @Fred and @tomjasz points, the 52V CAN battery shall power a non-smart (non UART,RA232/485, CAN) motor/controller system. But for the CAN motor/controller system, it must need a matched CAN battery, or some controller functions won't work.
May I know what is ebike model for this CAN battery? And do you open the male discharging connector to check how the 6pin soldered? The CAN port indeed needs 2wires and RS485 needs 3wires for connection.
The ebike is Dengfu e55 frame (designed to fit Reention Rhino IR-2170 battery case) paired with Bafang m620 52v motor. The motor can be UART protocol or CANBUS protocol so I need to figure out which motor version to pick for this battery. I do not have the battery on hands yet.
Thank you for the information.
Thank you for the information.
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Just read ZEN ebike owner explanation about difference between the UART and CANbus on this thread.
electricbikereview.com
CANbus is more complicated than UART and which can fullfill more functions. The bluetooth function (app connection) is one of UART protocol.
But I am still not sure if the motor/controller in CANbus version needs to communicate with battery via CANbus protocol. I will collect more info and update here.
2022 - Top 12 Bafang Ultra M620 Ebikes
What's the MSRP? ;) Lol. Ask me that once I've made more 😅
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But I am still not sure if the motor/controller in CANbus version needs to communicate with battery via CANbus protocol. I will collect more info and update here.
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In the case of m620 motor+controllers, you'll surely want the UART version, if you are starting from scratch.
Note that any "house shaped" connectors rather than round ones, are typically seen alongside CANBus motor+controllers.
I understand you may have display & throttle already? If so, what model display?
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