Pinion MGU

[antboy]

Surprised that there hasn't already been a thread on the new Pinion MGU motor/gearbox combo.
I think it's been something a fair number of people were expecting for some time now.

PINION MOTOR.GEARBOX.UNIT | Motor and gearbox in one unit

The Pinion MGU brings together, what belongs together. It’s more than adrivetrain. It’s a powertrain. It's motor and gearbox unified.

pinion.eu

ebike-MTB.com has a first ride report which reports mostly good things. Oddly, it seems that technical climbs are one of the weak spots, or maybe it's a matter of getting used to the shifting in the new system.

First ride review of the Pinion MGU E1.9 and MGU E1.12 motor/gearbox units – Is the end of conventional derailleurs?

With the MGU, gearbox specialists Pinion present a milestone in ebike history: a motor with an integrated gearbox.

ebike-mtb.com

The company is reporting that a 10 minute oil change every 10,000km is about all the maintenance it will need.

Can be used with a carbon or traditional chain, and will have both 12 and 9 gear options (600% and 564% ratios respectively, with even stepping)
Looks like it's comparable to the Shimano EP8 in size, but with less rounded edges (there's an overlay on the website that looks like the EP8).

 

[scrambler]

This was brought up and discussed in another thread below,

eMTB Options For 2021-2023

Long term fan of minions, but I'll confess the Eliminator on my levo sl has been impressive. When new, it had slightly better braking than a minion dhr but at the expense of being slightly less predictable as it slides. That was the old gripton compound, and everyone raves about the T7 . I...

electricbikereview.com

but thank you for opening a dedicated thread, it deserves one!

 

[onlineaddy]

There has:
Pinion Motor.Gearbox.Unit (MGU)

 

[antboy]

That's what I get for sticking to the General discussion.

 

[TrevorB]

Found my next ebike
https://downtown-mag.com/en/kettler-pinniato-ht-comfort-with-pinion-mgu-e-1-9-motor/
The 568% gearrange is overkill considering 11-46t cassette is about 440% and more than enough for trekking bike with loaded trailer or 45kmhr commuter. Going to 400-450% would give smaller jumps between gears. NB also have 600% 12spd version.
On plus side should be able to ride home unassisted if battery goes flat.

They complain about weight and price but its comparable to Rohloff bike with 750wh battery.

Once other motor manufacturers like Bosch, Brose and Shimano product MGU then prices should come down a bit.
Shimano have gearbox technology to develop MGU inhouse,. Bosch may have to partner with likes of Rohloff.

 

[scrambler]

I want a full suspension version

 

[TrevorB]

I want a full suspension version

See Kettler Pinniato FS and Bulls Vuca EVO FSX

 

[scrambler]

See Kettler Pinniato FS and Bulls Vuca EVO FSX

Highlights: step-through full suspension bikes from Eurobike 2023 – The comfort trend continues!

Countless new step-through, full suspension bikes were presented at Eurobike 2023. Here are all the most important highlights at a glance.

ebike-mtb.com

Thank you so much for that link, I had missed this latest review of FS step thru !!!

We may even have a chance at getting the Bull in the US...
If we do I think this will be it for my wife

They appear to have used the new cross lite Evo FS10 with the new pinion

Cross Lite EVO FS10 750 | All product details at a glance | BULLS Bikes official website

www.bulls-bikes.com