I bought a Grizl:ON CF 9, AMA

re: the noise comparison - Creo 2 isn’t much better, if at all. They’re both very present and high pitched compared to full size motors. I think the CF frame can amplify it too. With my C2 I had the same experience as Scooterboy, very tedious on climbs to where I’d just turn it off. Otherwise, a magic bike.

Try the Skitch maybe?
 
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