I bought a Grizl:ON CF 9, AMA

[AvalancheRun]

re: the noise comparison - Creo 2 isn’t much better, if at all. They’re both very present and high pitched compared to full size motors. I think the CF frame can amplify it too. With my C2 I had the same experience as Scooterboy, very tedious on climbs to where I’d just turn it off. Otherwise, a magic bike.

Try the Skitch maybe?

 

[Jack Cox]

re: the noise comparison - Creo 2 isn’t much better, if at all. They’re both very present and high pitched compared to full size motors. I think the CF frame can amplify it too. With my C2 I had the same experience as Scooterboy, very tedious on climbs to where I’d just turn it off. Otherwise, a magic bike.

Try the Skitch maybe?

The problem with the Skitch is fazua isn't reliable, from my research.

Seems like sticking with the Creo is the way to go. The lack of connectivity with my Garmin would be a serious bummer.

 

[AvalancheRun]

The problem with the Skitch is fazua isn't reliable, from my research.

Seems like sticking with the Creo is the way to go. The lack of connectivity with my Garmin would be a serious bummer.

Yeah just depends on what you value most. I don’t look for the most reliable car vs other available attributes. It’s a consideration but maybe not the top 3.

FWIW I’ve heard the newer fazua is better than before. R&M is using it too.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

You wouldn't buy a car with unreliable engine, AR

 

[AvalancheRun]

You wouldn't buy a car with unreliable engine, AR

How do you know? A lot of high end vehicles are unreliable.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

How do you know? A lot of high end vehicles are unreliable.

Usually, you do not need to replace a car broken engine in it's entirety. You repair the engine Fazua has been struggling for years to set its foot in the e-bike market. It looks that now even TREK prefers TQ.