Hello from AZ

[PCeBiker]

My first ebike came with KMC Z series chain with a master pin instead of a QuickLink,..

I didn't know that there was such a thing, or that it was a directional pin?

I almost broke my chain breaker trying to push it out the wrong way.


It's Fricken Amazing how that little lip on the Fat end of the pin can bind So Hard against the plate that it damn near broke my full size chain breaker !!??

What's You're Plan For Major Breakdown?

What are you using for filtration? yeah about that filtration is a good idea. I short of due but would recommend checking with someone else about filtration.

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I think I found a half decent chain breaker ??,.. https://a.co/d/5EOfdBi

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I did manage to force the pin through one plate but couldn't get it all the way out.

After it occurred to me that the pin could be directional, I flipped the chain breaker around and the the pin pushed out Stupid Easy.

But the Stupid part was that the chain breaker handle wasn't facing towards me when the chain breaker was installed correctly.
(I think that was done on purpose to make the chain installation process proprietary? )

 

[PCeBiker]

I often just use a chainbreaker to connect chain ends instead of quick links.

That isn't recommended

The scary part is that I could have a Fake Chain !!

I Could Be KILLED !!!


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[PedalUma]

@PCeBiker, Yes you need a 5,6,7,8 speed chain. When I make chain book marks that weigh down the pages so I can eat or write while reading, I extract the pin to the outer plate and leave it there. Then to connect I use a channel lock with 10 inch handles to push the pin back in. Finally I use my chain breaker to seal the deal for the correct adjustment.

Look what the cat just dragged in. It has carbon wheels. He had to drive past the Specialized dealer to come to me. It needed a derailleur adjustment gauge.

 

[PCeBiker]

,.. I extract the pin to the outer plate and leave it there. Then to connect I use a channel lock with 10 inch handles to push the pin back in. Finally I use my chain breaker to seal the deal for the correct adjustment.

I tried that.
I couldn't rotate the first plate outta the way to separate the chain,..

What's You're Plan For Major Breakdown?

I think I found a half decent chain breaker ??,.. https://a.co/d/5EOfdBi

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Note my chain cooking in the kitchen back in February 2023

Even way back then, I knew to Throughly Clean my chain, "Parched",.. before waxing it.

I don't know what you be doin??

 

[EMGX]

My first ebike came with KMC Z series chain with a master pin instead of a QuickLink,..

I didn't know that there was such a thing, or that it was a directional pin?

I almost broke my chain breaker trying to push it out the wrong way.


It's Fricken Amazing how that little lip on the Fat end of the pin can bind So Hard against the plate that it damn near broke my full size chain breaker !!??

What's You're Plan For Major Breakdown?

What are you using for filtration? yeah about that filtration is a good idea. I short of due but would recommend checking with someone else about filtration.

forums.electricbikereview.com

What's You're Plan For Major Breakdown?

I think I found a half decent chain breaker ??,.. https://a.co/d/5EOfdBi

forums.electricbikereview.com

I did manage to force the pin through one plate but couldn't get it all the way out.

After it occurred to me that the pin could be directional, I flipped the chain breaker around and the the pin pushed out Stupid Easy.

But the Stupid part was that the chain breaker handle wasn't facing towards me when the chain breaker was installed correctly.
(I think that was done on purpose to make the chain installation process proprietary? )

I've never had a problem with chains from single to 11speed using a standard Park as well as department store chainbreaking tool. Need to have a feel for when pin is pushed out enough without completely removing it (although the pin can be replaced if accidentally removed), also need to work chain if it initially binds to loosen up the link. Recently had a KMC 8 chain with some sort of difficult link that had to be twisted, ditched it and connected directly. YMMV

 

[PCeBiker]

Recently had a KMC 8 chain with some sort of difficult link that had to be twisted, ditched it and connected directly. YMMV

I'm sure that I'd get the same mileage as you.
I guess that I just gave into the hype and warnings too much.



Ya know,
Just to prove your point,..
I'm gunna install my newly waxed, waiting to be shortened and installed, Brand New (possibly fake?) e8 chain the same damn way that You Do.

I'm gunna push a and reinstall it !!!
Just to be Loud and Proud and say "I don't give a FÚĶ if my chain Kills me today !!@?

I've already got two motors with two locked throttles and no-hands on the bars, so how much worse would an exploding killer chain make??

 

[PedalUma]

I just made another Book Stays Open Holder. I will give one to my teacher tomorrow at my artists' creativity class. And I will give another away. All the ladies in the class have Book Stays Open Holder envy. It works because it matches an open book's contours. The class helped me come up with a new motor design.

 

[PCeBiker]

You're an artsy fartsy type hoping you can give it to her tomorrow, and teach the class a lesson.


I Could Die Tomorrow !!!

I even installed a chainring in place of my chain gaurd just like you said to make everything Extra Risky !!@

 

[PedalUma]

I was asked to join that 13-week class. The teacher has one of my bikes and has been following my builds for five-years. She considers me to be a creative maker and a kind of artist. It is a big commitment. I have to wake up extra early each day and write three pages. Then do reading and class exercises. The class is two hours per week and I also have to visit one inspirational place each week. It is also like a self-help twelve-step program to unblock our creativity and it has the word God in it. What I like about EBR is that it helps me to flex and strengthen my 'theory of mind' while helping others. And I get to see real world case studies and how people see then, with peer review.

 

[PedalUma]

Since @Go-Rilla is moving in the right direction I guess it is ok to talk about other things for now. A guy just left with his bike. It came in because the motor was making a loud clicking sound and he thought it also lost some power. I told him what it would be to take apart the motor and do diagnostics and maybe repair it at the sametime. It would make the sound whenever it rolled. I was skeptical because it did it forward and backward. What it was, was he used a one inch long zip tie to reattach the aluminum fender and never trimmed it. The knobs on the edge of the tire were rubbing it and the fender acted as an amplifier! I just kept quiet and snipped the zip tie.

Another came in yesterday and at the lowest power level you had to pedal three revolutions before the PAS kicked in and then it would lurch so badly it would throw the rider. If you use the throttle is would shudder, lurch and die, throwing a code. It took me three hours to fix it. It was all in the programing of the display. The order of the P-codes was off. It was starting at 1,000 watts and only had three power levels. I made it start at 1 watt and have 9 power levels and a bunch of other things like making the power kick in immediately. I could have set it so you only get power when when pedaling backwards, which would be a great joke to play on someone. Now it is smooth but the time was a big loss. The two bikes offset each other.

For the class I need to do things like visit museums and galleries.

What did the leper say to the prostitute: Keep the tip.

 

[PedalUma]

How is it going @Go-Rilla? Did you know that @PCeBiker boiled his chain in wax? I have been giving 20" boiled in wax chains to key people to hold open their books. Ten inches when doubled over in a circle. They can now eat or take notes while reading even with a breese outdoors. It fits the contours of any book at any page. Boiled chains do not get dirty or clog the jockey wheel or tensioner in the derailleur or the cogs and chain wheel teeth. Smell those chains there begin 'n to boil. I have a $13 crock pot dedicated to wax, it has a bit of bio-wax in the mix making it compatible with MucOff dry lube. Now as a sideline I can do Brazilian and Hollywood wax jobs. Is your wife cool with you doing Hollywood wax in the garage?

 

[Chargeride]

Do what everyone does, buy a bottom bracket and then buy another one that fits

 

[Go-Rilla]

Do what everyone does, buy a bottom bracket and then buy another one that fits

No need to replace the BB at this time, but thanks.

 

[PedalUma]

How did Apias get its name?

 

[Go-Rilla]

Hey-I resemble that remark!