Groundbreaking Trike?

[keithj69]

How can you say something is groundbreaking when you haven't received it yet? Both times? I'd be pissed to have bought the first groundbreaking thing, only to find out that they suddenly improved it.
Also, glad you are happy with what you received. Spend some more time with it, get to know it better than a few weeks. Give it 6 months before singing the praises of the new thing. You haven't had time to break in the new one yet to discover the quirks.
The announcement is words. No pictures to judge an opinion on. No reviews. You haven't even reviewed your current "groundbreaker" to make us say sorry.

 

[DashRiprock]

How can you say something is groundbreaking when you haven't received it yet? Both times?

We're taking a tricycle here. If you take the time to (and yes, I know that today's generations often choose to skip this part) actually look at the pictures and/or read the specs.(?)... it is not all that hard to distinguish old from new or one new groundbreaking feature over another. I have faith in your ability to reread the reasoning laid out (in detail) multiple times above. Addmotor delivered on every single point and then some. I find no reason to doubt that they will again. .

I'd be pissed to have bought the first groundbreaking thing, only to find out that they suddenly improved it.

You must not have bought many groundbreaking things. Happens all of the time. You pay to play.

Also, glad you are happy with what you received. Spend some more time with it, get to know it better than a few weeks. Give it 6 months before singing the praises of the new thing. You haven't had time to break in the new one yet to discover the quirks.
The announcement is words. No pictures to judge an opinion on. No reviews. You haven't even reviewed your current "groundbreaker" to make us say sorry.

When you tend to buy groundbreaking things sight unseen...you don't need two days let alone 6 months to declare it badass or not. Again...experience.
Don't need pictures...don't need reviews.
No charge advice:
You would probably get more out of your fellow forum member in terms of reviews...wait for it...if you came across as more interested in his purchase.
You reap what you sow my friend.
Check out some of the other forums and you might just find what you are looking for..or not.

 

[DashRiprock]

To all Soletri, Herotri and now M340T haters:
A litle birdee just told me that preorders will be taken in about a week.
Just in case you're interested...

 

[keithj69]

Please tell us what your reactions were when you learned about the gramophone. I would love your opinion. Or should I read the reviews by everyone but you to explain why we want one?

 

[DashRiprock]

Please tell us what your reactions were when you learned about the gramophone. I would love your opinion. Or should I read the reviews by everyone but you to explain why we want one?

Given that you are still out there searching for opinions regarding technologies of the past(?)...it is no big surprise that you are failing to recognize even the most basic advancements involving electric bike design (especially frame/suspension design) right here in the present.

 

[DashRiprock]

...by the way, I am pretty much resigned to the Soletri/Herotri design which Addmotor has hinted in a website chat will boast their new power transmission (we'll see what happens on the 16th).
I find it interesting to see history repeating itself here in this thread:
Addmotor absolutely crushes it with the release of these two new models and little but bickering and naysaying ensues.
Addmotor then ups the very same game that they just set themselves aside in...the knives come out even worse from those who weren't shamed enough the first time around.

This thread personifies the value of putting yourself out there on these forums while simply telling the truth.

 

[DashRiprock]

...one could also argue that it teaches younger generations to think for themselves and simply take a chance once in a while versus waiting for the 'group' participation trophy ceremony.

 

[m@Robertson]

The 'group' isn't necessarily wrong and, generally speaking, became a group for a good reason. In particular they may have a breadth of experience - and a perspective - you may lack

Most of this ego-trip of a thread is the result of someone who came to a conclusion, heard others who presented arguments that disagreed, and refused to listen to any of it. He took it as a personal challenge to his supreme intelligence that anyone would dare disagree. Since then, we've seen post after ego-stroking post devoted to reinforcing his wonderfulness.

This guy is a lost cause, but to anyone else who may make the mistake of tuning in, remember to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out.

 

[BlackHand]

...one could also argue that it teaches younger generations to think for themselves and simply take a chance once in a while versus waiting for the 'group' participation trophy ceremony.

One could also argue that it's unlikely said younger generations will feel like there is much to learn from someone who constantly posts ageist insults.

Glad you like your trike, and I look forward to hearing how Addmotor's limited slip differential is groundbreaking compared to other trike's lsd's.

 

[DashRiprock]

Uhhhh...the 'group' referred to above are kids in grade school forced to gather around for participation trophy ceremonies....not forum members. The point which you missed (again) is that sometimes one simply has to take a chance with their hard earned money when presented with something that is just plain better.

I have asked you time and again m@robertson to very simply present us with a more heavy duty trike (frame) boasting both front and rear (dual) suspension for the money (I paid $2900 delivered) able to carry two riders at 450# total that has more potential to be modded due to the overall design. I even left out the kick butt advanced transmission about to be thrown in just to make it easier to cipher on.
The silence has been deafening for 5 pages now.

Sometimes what folks 'avoid' is about all that needs to be considered after they go on the attack. .

 

[keithj69]

Your generation analogy is now clear. But with your tense words talking about "generations" has left everyone after your "Silent Generation" to wonder what you really meant. Until now. Thank you for clarifying. Could you be less silent and actually help us lesser generations know why this is ground breaking.
You piss and moan about people wanting an achievement medal, but your silence on your knowledge and expertise on said bikes does not help the greater generations in a reason to buy something based on what a company says.
Me, I have been cutting edge on computers for over 25 years. My job. I have learned what vaporware is when I see the manufacture trying to get a sale.
So either check your insulting ego at the door thinking you know more than the rest of us, Or show us.
Pretty sure I am about to be insulted and put in my place by some ancient artifact that thinks he knows more than the rest of us. But I am here to remind you that you are an insufferable S.O.B. until you understand that you are not the smartest person here and we actually appreciate an honest review from a rider of said brand.

Edit: I have read what the manufacture said. What they say and what they deliver can be multiple different things. An honest review on a seperate post from this one would be great. Until then you are what we in the business call a shill. Repeating the words of the manufacture without real world proof. If you love them this much, do a real review so people behind you trying to make a decision understands what they may be buying. Your excuse that the younger generation doesn't read is wrong. They do, and they appreciate real world reviews, so they are not wasting their money. AND THE YOUNGER GENERATION IS NOT BUYING A TRIKE! Do a favor to your age group as to why to buy this trike. You have not understood the message any of of us have been trying to get to you. back in 2014 when you were active, you actually appreciated visual things like the videos from a factory building bikes. Yes i check history.....

 

[DashRiprock]

AND THE YOUNGER GENERATION IS NOT BUYING A TRIKE!

Trikes and quadricycles always have been the future of this sport and now economic driver fueled by recent jumps in technology.
If you are not able to grasp the future of what will be and how we will get there through frame, drive and suspension advances (let alone everything else relevant/about to be demonstrated yet again on June 16th) your statement above will pretty much seal your educational fate.

It was pretty easy back in the day:
Show me what's better or you're simply ignored.

 

[kevinmccune]

To all Soletri, Herotri and now M340T haters:
A litle birdee just told me that preorders will be taken in about a week.
Just in case you're interested...

Got to be better than that drone"scam" I bought into, the only way I will give them a good word is if they give me a refund,I think at least with the trike you will actually get a good quality product.

 

[DashRiprock]

I have no connection with Addmotor and do not even know if they will announce (on the 16th) anything to do with the Soletri or Herotri someday boasting this new (for Addmotor products only?) technology.
I'll throw another slap-in-the-face reality at not yourself who obviously knew the risks involved in dealing overseas yet were man or women enough to take the risk and frankly see what happens:
If you are an 'enthusiast' or forum member who cannot even name a single direct *legitimate* competitor to what you are 'enthused' about (see above) you may not just be qualified to argue what is truly groundbreaking or not at any given moment in say a bicycle's centuries old design progression.
Kudos to the Chinese and others for knowing the difference involved in these basic technological/market progressions and getting off their arses to profit from it.

 

[AHicks]

Trikes and quadricycles always have been the future of this sport and now economic driver fueled by recent jumps in technology.
If you are not able to grasp the future of what will be and how we will get there through frame, drive and suspension advances (let alone everything else relevant/about to be demonstrated yet again on June 16th) your statement above will pretty much seal your educational fate.

It was pretty easy back in the day:
Show me what's better or you're simply ignored.

Proof regarding how totally out of touch your thinking is. I'll grant you only the fact that there may be a reason to go this way (trike) at some point due to situations beyond your control. ANYONE (OK, 99.9999% of us) of sound mind and body would absolutely prefer to be on 2 wheels for a hundred reasons.

Beyond that, if the need for a trike does become apparent, the one you seem fixated on might be a candidate. One of many..... This rear suspension idea, for me, after riding so many years with a fixed rear, comes under the who cares category. It's just a source of unnecessary extra weight and complexity - the same reasons I would never, under any circumstances, consider a quad....

 

[kevinmccune]

Proof regarding how totally out of touch your thinking is. I'll grant you only the fact that there may be a reason to go this way (trike) at some point due to situations beyond your control. ANYONE (OK, 99.9999% of us) of sound mind and body would absolutely prefer to be on 2 wheels for a hundred reasons.

Beyond that, if the need for a trike does become apparent, the one you seem fixated on might be a candidate. One of many..... This rear suspension idea, for me, after riding so many years with a fixed rear, comes under the who cares category. It's just a source of unnecessary extra weight and complexity - the same reasons I would never, under any circumstances, consider a quad....

However a swingarm( appropiately sized and sprung of course) might really make for a nice ride on a reverse trike, the camber change reverse trike has a lot of appeal for Me thats why I was building until I had to redo the axle attachments, then I said"enough is enough" may go prebuilt one day.Didn't think I would like a full suspension bike till I acquired one, now I am spoiled, my missing 5 vertabra thanks me.

 

[m@Robertson]

Uhhhh...the 'group' referred to above are kids in grade school forced to gather around for participation trophy ceremonies....not forum members. The point which you missed (again) is that sometimes one simply has to take a chance with their hard earned money when presented with something that is just plain better.

See Post #4 and #5. You didn't find something better. You bought from a company that is playing uneducated buyers for suckers. They know their readers don't know any better. Thats you by the way. I'd be a lot more gentle about saying that if you hadn't gone out of your way to act like you have for so long.

Speaking of which given your in-yer-face professions of faith... the only god who approves of arrogance and hubris has horns and a pointy tail.

I have asked you time and again m@robertson to very simply present us with a more heavy duty trike (frame) boasting both front and rear (dual) suspension for the money (I paid $2900 delivered) able to carry two riders at 450# total that has more potential to be modded due to the overall design. I even left out the kick butt advanced transmission about to be thrown in just to make it easier to cipher on.

I didn't care to show a trike because I don't think much of them. I try to not comment on things I don't know about from experience. Thats why I limited my comments here to things I DO know and stayed away from saying what I think about fixed-wheel (i.e. non tilting) trikes.

Your trike puts power down to the front wheel. It compounds this sin by putting it on a suspension fork which is itself prone to failure when powered. Get some experience building bikes and you will know this from seeing all the photos of failures in the online fora. Plus, again, the seller demonstrated they play fast and loose with the truth. Who in their right mind who knows they are being lied to buys anyway? Only the desperate and pigheaded, and while I may be the latter I am not the former.

But if I was going to go with a trike, I would be doing a recumbent tadpole. Something like a Sunseeker Fat Tad. They start at $2499 and I can motorize one for about another $1000 (actually for zero because I have spare motors and batteries in the garage I could put right on it). The riding experience of a tadpole is light years beyond the Addmotor and any other non-tilting trike. Does it have less carrying capacity than the Addmotor? Yes, but a garbage truck has more carry capacity than ... well, anything. Doesn't make the garbage truck desirable to drive around town.

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Lastly, its not like I don't know bikes that have high carry capacities. My Surly Big Fat Dummy has been up over 550 lbs total with wideloaders I built myself, custom wheels and 260L per side panniers. My Bullitt - which I built frame-up myself - is going on another run to Costco tomorrow, and to Home Depot for 100 lbs of gravel today. That bike regularly goes up over 450. So if you want to preach how cargo bikes work, you are talking to the right guy.

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[keithj69]

I found the shill's other account. https://ebikesforum.com/threads/soletri-m366x-trike-on-the-way.3984/

Look at May 17th on both of the sites.

 

[keithj69]

@DashRiprock Did you get your pedal extensions since the wooden foot rest was in the way? And why are you more forthcoming about a review there than here. Wow, you were threatened with a ban on the other site for your behaviour.

 

[DashRiprock]

You didn't find something better. You bought from a company that is playing uneducated buyers for suckers. They know their readers don't know any better. Thats you by the way.

What a welcoming environment we have here for both manufacturers and those interested in learning more about ebikes...