This might be helpful to other EBR members... any photos?I've just had some info from a friend who cut the speed sensor cable on his Stance and soldered in a new reed switch ($3) on the end and made a much neater job with a housing for it to match with the magnet on the end of the peddle crank.
I would have thought that the Badass Box would definitely be the way to go. And they do ship within Australia, so reasonably quickly. You can always test out what effect it will have by swapping your speed sensor to the outside of the chain stay with cable ties and attaching your magnet to the crank instead of the spoke. It will work but I think some people have reported problems over time where the software presumably picks up the fact that the cadence is exactly the same as the "speed". You will also need a security Torx bit if you want to remove your speed sensor. You would certainly be pleased though with the results from the Badass Box (even better if you don't have a display reporting annoying numbers too@Stefan Mikes - great thread! and you're lucky to have your brother to help/do the install - it looked like a nightmare!
It makes the BadAss4 appear sooo much easier, and fortunately my e-bike has the old school spoke magnet![]()
Yeah I hit the 25km/hr limit constantly.He's in Australia, Chris, with the 25 km/h restriction. It matters on road.
I agree with you Mike. I don't activate the derestrictor on my Giant Trance E+ off-road as even 25 km/h there is high speed. However, I need to derestrict when riding on paved roads. It is not that I ride very fast there (e-MTBs are not speed demons) but it is vital for me to easily ride at just 28 km/h and with no "wall-effect" at the motor cut-off. It is actually very dangerous when the motor cuts off while I cross an intersection...Yeah I hit the 25km/hr limit constantly.
I wouldn’t want to de-restrict if the limit here was the same as say California
Cheers
Mike
that's a great heads up! - cheersYou will also need a security Torx bit if you want to remove your speed sensor.
Moving the speed sensor to the crank just became harder (requiring a security Torx)...and I like the way the BAB can be removed in seconds...That said, with 'old school' magnet speed sensor, the free-mod method is the cheapest and easiest.
This Speedbox video shows significant work for the install on a Giant - no crank removal, undoing the chain ring apparently provides access, but still requires getting lots of stuff off to swing the motor down for the install:A vast difference between @Stefan Mikes' install and @Kal's just removing the bash plate.
or when overtaking another cyclist...hitting the 25km/h wall as you pass is quite scary...It is actually very dangerous when the motor cuts off while I cross an intersection...
Thanks for sharing the video... by contrast here is the BadAssBox 3-step installation process.This Speedbox video shows significant work for the install on a Giant - no crank removal, undoing the chain ring apparently provides access, but still requires getting lots of stuff off to swing the motor down for the install:
From my perspective, still a difficult install.
@Stefan Mikes - cheers again for this thread
cheers
Mike
I really like that @iskjone. That 'blast mode' ist a lot of fun on paved roads.What I do like like is the ability to blast down the road at 40 MPH with full power pedal assist. I'm just a analog guy living in a digital world.
Good luck with the installation... you will not be disappointed with the top speed performance improvement.I really like that @iskjone. That 'blast mode' ist a lot of fun on paved roads.
@MRB, I'm sorry to hear about your problems, did you solve "speed sensor red light" issue ?
I decided to go digital way; just as this great thread started thanks to @Stefan. This time that electronic solution is VOLspeed V3.
Let's start, get that in that slim LIV Vall PRO 2021 body
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Will that be @Kal botox correction or heart surgery ?let's find out...
@FlatSix911, to reveal a little moreGood luck with the installation... you will not be disappointed with the top speed performance improvement.![]()