Generic MD 1000 and HD 750 ebike model discussion

[RMK!]

Actually I've tried to break this thing and I can't. Here's some photos and videos of the adventure.... https://photos.app.goo.gl/k4c6ML7YR5CjtQqA8

Well done KOOB, you obviously have some skills but a "don't try this at home" admonition is in order. My E14 seems too good to be true but your comments are giving me more confidence that I may, with proper maintenance (regular oil changes) see good to excellent longevity from this drivetrain. There are some Rholoff detractors who claim oil leaking is a common problem. My anecdotal take is most who have the issue live in cold climates and the Rholoff hub is exposed to wide temp changes which effects the seals and can cause oil leaks. Like you, I live in CA and our mild climate seems a better match for the Rholoff 14.

I had excellent results with the SRAM swap out but bought the MD 1000 primarily due to the concept of a belt drive IGH and was hugely disappointed. Based upon your experience, ordering the MD 1000 with the Rholoff 14 might be the way to go.

 

[K00B]

Well done KOOB, you obviously have some skills but a "don't try this at home" admonition is in order. My E14 seems too good to be true but your comments are giving me more confidence that I may, with proper maintenance (regular oil changes) see good to excellent longevity from this drivetrain. There are some Rholoff detractors who claim oil leaking is a common problem. My anecdotal take is most who have the issue live in cold climates and the Rholoff hub is exposed to wide temp changes which effects the seals and can cause oil leaks. Like you, I live in CA and our mild climate seems a better match for the Rholoff 14.

I had excellent results with the SRAM swap out but bought the MD 1000 primarily due to the concept of a belt drive IGH and was hugely disappointed. Based upon your experience, ordering the MD 1000 with the Rholoff 14 might be the way to go.

Yes indeed!!!

 

[J3ON]

Due to some customs regulations apparently FTH POWER cannot ship batteries directly to Canada , has anyone tried to fix the batteries?
If so, how did it go and do you have any advice to give me before I start.

 

[Pmc Agencies]

My contact Cindy said the repair is easy my engineer friend says no its not and said to send the batterie back Cindy said they tested 1000 batteries and found only 1 defective and might not be bad but don't want to chance it especially on a new bike I ordered the MD 750

Just tried to log into Bikonit USA website and it is down? Anyone know why?

 

[Vewlix]

Just tried to log into Bikonit USA website and it is down? Anyone know why?

It’s back up now.

 

[drbgonzal]

Can you charge the MD1000 with 1 charger when both batteries attached to the bike? I am seeing some people say that you need 2 chargers but that is probably for taking the battery off the bike and charging separately. Also what kind of plug does the battery need? Mini-xlr?

 

[RMK!]

Can you charge the MD1000 with 1 charger when both batteries attached to the bike? I am seeing some people say that you need 2 chargers but that is probably for taking the battery off the bike and charging separately. Also what kind of plug does the battery need? Mini-xlr?

The charge port on the bike will charge both batteries. The port on the bike is like a mini xlr. When off the bike the batteries need a charger for each battery you are charging.

 

[drbgonzal]

The charge port on the bike will charge both batteries. The port on the bike is like a mini xlr. When off the bike the batteries need a charger for each battery you are charging.

Excellent thank you, ordering with a rohloff soon!

 

[K00B]

Excellent thank you, ordering with a rohloff soon!

parts required:
rohloff speedhub 500/14 CC DB OEM2 XXL 32H

Rohloff SPEEDHUB 500/14 XL Fatbike Hub | Cycle Monkey

Rohloff's SPEEDHUBs are the gold standard for internal gear hubs. High precision manufacturing using top quality materials provides high efficiency, wide gear range, low maintenance, and incredibly long life span. All hub kits come with twist shifter, cables, and 16T chain sprocket. Belt drive...

www.cyclemonkey.com

rohloff Fat Bone for 203mm Rotors
- post mount brake adapter for (190/97)

Rohloff FAT Bone | Cycle Monkey

Postmount: Requires using one rotor size larger than frame mount

www.cyclemonkey.com

Gates Carbon Drive Rear Belt Sprocket
- 22T for speedhub
- Splined interface
- Exp Version

| Cycle Monkey

www.cyclemonkey.com

These guys can help. They can send you a new wheel all set up. all you have to do is widen the dropouts so the hub fits... i used my drill press for that. thankfully the drop outs are removable.... also use QR Skewer on the rear...

Cycle Monkey | Internal Gearing Specialists, Bicycle Distribution & Service Center

www.cyclemonkey.com

 

[K00B]

Due to some customs regulations apparently FTH POWER cannot ship batteries directly to Canada , has anyone tried to fix the batteries?
If so, how did it go and do you have any advice to give me before I start.

I just got both batteries back... haven't field tested yet, but i'll do that this weekend and let ya know if my range is still the same...

 

[drbgonzal]

parts required:
rohloff speedhub 500/14 CC DB OEM2 XXL 32H

Rohloff SPEEDHUB 500/14 XL Fatbike Hub | Cycle Monkey

Rohloff's SPEEDHUBs are the gold standard for internal gear hubs. High precision manufacturing using top quality materials provides high efficiency, wide gear range, low maintenance, and incredibly long life span. All hub kits come with twist shifter, cables, and 16T chain sprocket. Belt drive...

www.cyclemonkey.com

rohloff Fat Bone for 203mm Rotors
- post mount brake adapter for (190/97)

Rohloff FAT Bone | Cycle Monkey

Postmount: Requires using one rotor size larger than frame mount

www.cyclemonkey.com

Gates Carbon Drive Rear Belt Sprocket
- 22T for speedhub
- Splined interface
- Exp Version

| Cycle Monkey

www.cyclemonkey.com

These guys can help. They can send you a new wheel all set up. all you have to do is widen the dropouts so the hub fits... i used my drill press for that. thankfully the drop outs are removable.... also use QR Skewer on the rear...

Cycle Monkey | Internal Gearing Specialists, Bicycle Distribution & Service Center

www.cyclemonkey.com

Thanks but the Alibaba supplier actually sells the bike with the rohloff e-14 already installed. One question that I had about the rohloff just to confirm is that there have been no reported issues with it and the bafang ultra 1000 watt motor right? As long as you shift properly you shouldnt run into any issues. I was reading the the SA IGH motor that they cant handle the higher torque load and fold up inside...

I've got another question. Is it recommended to buy a second pair of batteries if for example they don't continue to supply batteries in the future or can these 21700 batteries be rebuilt. Given how you would have to pay for additional shipping costs buying a second pair of batteries it might make sense to get the second set, plus more range I wanted to take this on a weekend trip.

 

[RMK!]

Thanks but the Alibaba supplier actually sells the bike with the rohloff e-14 already installed. One question that I had about the rohloff just to confirm is that there have been no reported issues with it and the bafang ultra 1000 watt motor right? As long as you shift properly you shouldnt run into any issues. I was reading the the SA IGH motor that they cant handle the higher torque load and fold up inside...

I've got another question. Is it recommended to buy a second pair of batteries if for example they don't continue to supply batteries in the future or can these 21700 batteries be rebuilt. Given how you would have to pay for additional shipping costs buying a second pair of batteries it might make sense to get the second set, plus more range I wanted to take this on a weekend trip.

Are you sure it's the E14 Rohloff that Leili is supplying? My understanding is is the non-electric version Rohloff Speed Hub 14.

BTW, I have the E14 on another ebike and it is a fantastic IGH but any IGH can be damaged if your not careful shifting under load. The Bafang Ultra motor makes that even more essential. My E14 bike is a pedelec (no throttle) and has the Bosch 350W mid-drive motor with chain drive that is integrated with the Rohloff E14. It cuts motor power when shifting but due to my Sturmey Archer experience, I am very careful shifting e.g. not under load.

 

[RMK!]

parts required:
rohloff speedhub 500/14 CC DB OEM2 XXL 32H

Rohloff SPEEDHUB 500/14 XL Fatbike Hub | Cycle Monkey

Rohloff's SPEEDHUBs are the gold standard for internal gear hubs. High precision manufacturing using top quality materials provides high efficiency, wide gear range, low maintenance, and incredibly long life span. All hub kits come with twist shifter, cables, and 16T chain sprocket. Belt drive...

www.cyclemonkey.com

rohloff Fat Bone for 203mm Rotors
- post mount brake adapter for (190/97)

Rohloff FAT Bone | Cycle Monkey

Postmount: Requires using one rotor size larger than frame mount

www.cyclemonkey.com

Gates Carbon Drive Rear Belt Sprocket
- 22T for speedhub
- Splined interface
- Exp Version

| Cycle Monkey

www.cyclemonkey.com

These guys can help. They can send you a new wheel all set up. all you have to do is widen the dropouts so the hub fits... i used my drill press for that. thankfully the drop outs are removable.... also use QR Skewer on the rear...

Cycle Monkey | Internal Gearing Specialists, Bicycle Distribution & Service Center

www.cyclemonkey.com

Cycle Monkey is just minutes away from where I live. They are a great resource in general and expert in all things Rohloff.

 

[RMK!]

I've got another question. Is it recommended to buy a second pair of batteries if for example they don't continue to supply batteries in the future or can these 21700 batteries be rebuilt. Given how you would have to pay for additional shipping costs buying a second pair of batteries it might make sense to get the second set, plus more range I wanted to take this on a weekend trip.

I purchased 2 additional batteries after the initial MD 1000 purchase for the same reasons you cite. I found that with my riding style, I was only able to get 40-50 miles out of my 2 battery setup. If you order them at the time of bike purchase and they can some how ship them in the bike box or container that would be the cheapest way to get it done and is certainly worth exploring with Yeili.

 

[K00B]

Are you sure it's the E14 Rohloff that Leili is supplying? My understanding is is the non-electric version Rohloff Speed Hub 14.

BTW, I have the E14 on another ebike and it is a fantastic IGH but any IGH can be damaged if your not careful shifting under load. The Bafang Ultra motor makes that even more essential. My E14 bike is a pedelec (no throttle) and has the Bosch 350W mid-drive motor with chain drive that is integrated with the Rohloff E14. It cuts motor power when shifting but due to my Sturmey Archer experience, I am very careful shifting e.g. not under load.

Well that's a good tip for sure I'm just saying I've tried to break the damn thing and I couldn't yet. I did leave the motor cut off shift sensor intact though

 

[drbgonzal]

Are you sure it's the E14 Rohloff that Leili is supplying? My understanding is is the non-electric version Rohloff Speed Hub 14.

BTW, I have the E14 on another ebike and it is a fantastic IGH but any IGH can be damaged if your not careful shifting under load. The Bafang Ultra motor makes that even more essential. My E14 bike is a pedelec (no throttle) and has the Bosch 350W mid-drive motor with chain drive that is integrated with the Rohloff E14. It cuts motor power when shifting but due to my Sturmey Archer experience, I am very careful shifting e.g. not under load.

Rohloff 500/14 XL Fat Bike Disc Speedhub - 177mm

Rohloff 500/14 XL Fat Bike Disc Speedhub - 177mm :: From $1667.00 :: Rohloff 177mm Rear Hubs

www.universalcycles.com

This is the exact model, it looks like I would need to get the e-14 addon separate. Can you retrofit the e-14 onto the MD1000 with the rohloff 500/14XL?

 

[K00B]

Rohloff 500/14 XL Fat Bike Disc Speedhub - 177mm

Rohloff 500/14 XL Fat Bike Disc Speedhub - 177mm :: From $1667.00 :: Rohloff 177mm Rear Hubs

www.universalcycles.com

This is the exact model, it looks like I would need to get the e-14 addon separate. Can you retrofit the e-14 onto the MD1000 with the rohloff 500/14XL?

Rohloff 500/14 XL Fat Bike Disc Speedhub - 177mm

Rohloff 500/14 XL Fat Bike Disc Speedhub - 177mm :: From $1667.00 :: Rohloff 177mm Rear Hubs

www.universalcycles.com

This is the exact model, it looks like I would need to get the e-14 addon separate. Can you retrofit the e-14 onto the MD1000 with the rohloff 500/14XL?

that will not work 177mm too small... you need this:
Speedhub 500/14 CC DB OEM2 XXL, black anodized,
32H
- 190mm Fat Bike Version

Rohloff SPEEDHUB 500/14 XL Fatbike Hub | Cycle Monkey

Rohloff's SPEEDHUBs are the gold standard for internal gear hubs. High precision manufacturing using top quality materials provides high efficiency, wide gear range, low maintenance, and incredibly long life span. All hub kits come with twist shifter, cables, and 16T chain sprocket. Belt drive...

www.cyclemonkey.com

with

Rohloff Twist Shifter Light | Cycle Monkey

www.cyclemonkey.com

 

[drbgonzal]

Do you mean 177mm is too small for MD1000? Or 177mm is too small for e-14?

 

[K00B]

Do you mean 177mm is too small for MD1000? Or 177mm is too small for e-14?

sry, the md1000 needs the 190mm....

 

[K00B]

sry, the md1000 needs the 190mm....

oh, just looked up the e14... that thing looks bad to the bone.... now im thinking about replacing my x1... thanks allot... ;p