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Think about what you just said . Can you explain to me how they went this far back in time to know this ? It's just speculation based on made up data charts and numbers . Plus there's no evidence earth is 10,000 years old let alone billions of years old. It's rather telling that Bible gives us a basis of post flood around 4500- 5000 years ago. Now I know there's scientists not science that attempt to make claims things are older . But what we have of recorded dated historical accounts starts no farther back then 5000 years ago.
It's kinda hard for me to take a claim as though fact from 2 billion plus years ago . When we have no records . NONE........ Look what the evolution scientist's claim . That we have recorded Pre-historic proof?? That's impossible . Pre-history means before records . Before His story of accounts .
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One problem with many proxy studies is that you can make them say anything you want them to say, even without evidence that they "work"...that is, you need to explain the mechanism of how it does what you claim it does...for example, you need to demonstrate that larger pebbles rather than smaller ones. in a river, are evidence of glacier melting or growing vs evidence of construction dumping. Once obtained and accepted scientifically, then you have to stick with that meaning of the evidence and in each sample, you have to be consistent. In other words, tree rings wider or thinner can't be changed from temperature up or down, to fertilization up or down, or disease or injury or shade differences or water supply differences. Climate scientists ignore the rules and will use the inverse of the scientifically accepted orientation, using whichever they prefer in whichever section of the graph they prefer, and by cherry picking the samples that agree with the picture they are painting from a preconceived notion.Think about what you just said . Can you explain to me how they went this far back in time to know this ? It's just speculation based on made up data charts and numbers . Plus there's no evidence earth is 10,000 years old let alone billions of years old. It's rather telling that Bible gives us a basis of post flood around 4500- 5000 years ago. Now I know there's scientists not science that attempt to make claims things are older . But what we have of recorded dated historical accounts starts no farther back then 5000 years ago.
It's kinda hard for me to take a claim as though fact from 2 billion plus years ago . When we have no records . NONE........ Look what the evolution scientist's claim . That we have recorded Pre-historic proof?? That's impossible . Pre-history means before records . Before His story of accounts .
They also can attach hugely different weightings of samples, to paint a picture . They also can use bundles of proxies and as one "stick" ends at a date, that alone can produce a sudden difference, a jump in the averaged value. So easy to paint pictures, it's ridiculous, and becomes storytelling rather than science.
P.S. >you can't argue against one "just so" story with another. You argue against a "just so" story with evidence of how they did what they did, if they cheated like they do year after year, get caught, admit error, then do it again next year.
Also you cannot cherry pick your samples to agree with your ideas. Climate scientists actually boast that their specialty is the only science where cherry picking is permitted.
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She emits a poopstain on Science; even IPCC doesn't attribute 100% of warming to humans in their consensus opinion reports. She has no expertise in attribution.
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Jay also has an electric "ladies car" from that same era that looks a lot like a phone booth and seems like it corners about as well.
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Electric bikes might be off topic but…
electrek.co
Rivian doubles down on electric bikes, CEO says company 'super excited' about e-bikes
Rivian e-bikes could be part of the electric truck maker's portfolio in the future, based on a recent interview with Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe.
electrek.co
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I watched that episode. I believe he said that electric car was one of his favorites in his collection because it was so simple, quiet, easy to drive. Looked so very "antique" going down the road.
Just read about this the other day. No question I'll have to get one for my R1T!!
Also lots of chatter from Rivian about the company developing a new battery technology for future vehicles. Smaller packs, lighter weight, more energy dense.Heard yesterday on the Leaf forums about a range extender for the Nissan Leaf being offered from an European developer Muxsan. This is a cell pack that fits in the bottom of the car's hatchback boot that can extend the current milage range up to triple depending upon the wattage chosen. Right now the extenders are just being offered in Europe which has the majority of Leafs. Pricy, but a technologically smart product to counter the natural degradation of the car's original batteries without the cost of removal/replacement of the main battery pack. It may well be just the ticket to keeping an aging electric car on the road and viable for decades beyond the normal shelf life.
I like having a front row seat to watch the development of electric cars and electric batteries for this new century we're living in.
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Have you ever read Dane Wigington's Geo Engineering? We will all be dead by 2030 . Doesn't appear to be conspiracy . He supports it with all sorts of factual science and the side effects of what they are doing to earth . ON PURPOSE . All this Global Chaos Green energy is really all about is creating opposing sides . Wigington shows all kinds of evidence . It's not what's going up into the sky that's destroying the planet. It's what is coming down from it . He shows we've lost 75% of Wildlife populations since 1976 .
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I am still betting the dinosaurs will be back some millions of years from now. Other than insects, dinosaurs have the greatest longevity so far. And they were not even responsible for their demise, unless methane gas was a contributor. Unfortunately, I probably won’t be around to collect on my bet.
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Last night I was chilling out in my EV which was plugged into one of the free Level 2 charging stations at a local grocery store, and I was asked the ever-favorite question by the person in the car next to me - "How long does it take to charge up your car?"
I've learned over time the simple answer is to say "it depends upon how low my battery is, and if I'm using a Level 2 or a Level 3 charge." I always use the "charging up your cell phone" analogy in regards to time, explain there are several ways to charge up (time management again), and say that almost all Level 2s are free. That last bit gets everyone's attention, and starts a real flow of questions. Most people aren't aware of how much time they spend at a busy gas station waiting in line for their pump to be open except that it is annoying and time consuming when they can't just pull straight up to a pump. They are always intrigued when they find out EVs are generally charged at home. It's a whole different mind set of fueling a vehicle.
The cost factor doesn't seem to be a huge issue, I've noticed. Except for a few people who've focused on the cost of charging, most seem to be more concerned with the "time to charge" aspect.
We're a very impatient society, or so it appears.
I've learned over time the simple answer is to say "it depends upon how low my battery is, and if I'm using a Level 2 or a Level 3 charge." I always use the "charging up your cell phone" analogy in regards to time, explain there are several ways to charge up (time management again), and say that almost all Level 2s are free. That last bit gets everyone's attention, and starts a real flow of questions. Most people aren't aware of how much time they spend at a busy gas station waiting in line for their pump to be open except that it is annoying and time consuming when they can't just pull straight up to a pump. They are always intrigued when they find out EVs are generally charged at home. It's a whole different mind set of fueling a vehicle.
The cost factor doesn't seem to be a huge issue, I've noticed. Except for a few people who've focused on the cost of charging, most seem to be more concerned with the "time to charge" aspect.
We're a very impatient society, or so it appears.
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Yes, the biggest thing people dont realize is that for most electric car owners, the time to charge is irrelevant.
When they get home at the end of the day, they plug in, and the car is full in the morning.
So they never suffer the inconvenience of an attended refill period like on a gas-powered car, whatever that time is.
When they get home at the end of the day, they plug in, and the car is full in the morning.
So they never suffer the inconvenience of an attended refill period like on a gas-powered car, whatever that time is.
My brother in NJ bought an 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5, an electric suv. Benefits : quick, 300 mile range, charges to 80 per cent on fast charger in less than 30 minutes, lots of safety features, nice, big enough ( my brother is 6'5"), in NJ no sales taxes on ev's, no annual inspection, includes 2 years of charging at charging stations, power company (JCP&L) paid for installing a level 2 charger in his garage, good warranty on car. Dealer did add some markup because of scarcity of cars. $44-45k, but did qualify for NJ ev incentive of 2K or so. He is pleased. I am waiting for the 2024 Chevy Equinox at a more affordable $30k price and eligible for Federal and MD State tax incentives.
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Recently read an newspaper article re: How renters deal with EVs. Given they have no “home” in which to charge, they are at the mercy of universal charge stations that renters bemoan as always in use. Given the extremely high percentage of residents in apartments, high rise condos, etc., e-bikes vs. EVs may be the most practical for now.
phev was a typo, they meant pleb
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Sydney is currently navigating how they provision charging access for residents with no off street parking. It'll be worked out in time - capitalism is good at finding solutions where there's a market - but there's some equity and access issues in this space to be sure.
We airbnbed in a complex with a massive underground car park (in our ICE car). There wasn't a power point in sight. Not impossible to retrofit the place with ports for each parking space, but then the usage would need to be tied to the apartment owner. This was a complex built less than 2 years ago, so it's not even on many developers or LGAs radars yet.
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This guy makes some good points when comparing EVs, hybrids, and ICE powered vehicles.
Bottom line: For now, hybrids are the best choice for reducing carbon emissions. You would need to drive an EV about 450,000 miles to gain benefit over hybrids in terms of total carbon footprint.
The Contradictions of Battery-Operated Vehicles
Bottom line: For now, hybrids are the best choice for reducing carbon emissions. You would need to drive an EV about 450,000 miles to gain benefit over hybrids in terms of total carbon footprint.
The Contradictions of Battery-Operated Vehicles
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lol, i’m not sure how you get from “renter” to “homeless.”
parking in new rental buildings in california require ev charging spaces and the electrical infrastructure has to be capable of supporting new chargers, should a renter want to add more. most people who rent and have a car have a parking space. most parking spaces are near enough to power that chargers could be added if one wanted to.
most people buying EVs probably drive them to work fairly often, so they can charge there
and finally, there are the public or private network charging stations.
last i checked, nobody i know who rents or owns has a gas station either in their home or work.
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