Creo 1X drivetrain - Has frustrated me for some time

[Jack Cox]

That's why we use BLEvo app for Specialized ebikes to overcome this issue.

Oh awesome!

 

[Captain Slow]

Thanks for the link Jack. Unfortunately it's sold out. Where did you get the magnet from?

 

[Jack Cox]

I bought it from those guys.

If you google that you might be able to find it elsewhere also. I suspect that an LBS with a specialized franchise can get them also.

Jack

 

[Jack Cox]

Coming back to this thread... here is a source for the magnet... and it is in stock!

Specialized Centerlock Speed Sensor Magnet Holder (Black)

This part is a centerlock speed sensor magnet holder for Specialized E-bikes. It is compatible with the following bikes: Model Year Category... S199900012

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[In d Nile]

This:

E-Bike Tuning Solutions - PLANET3.Bike

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This one will mess up whatever you use for a speedo, it will read 1/2 speed (I think).

No problem if you use a GPS speedo like Garmin

 

[Jack Cox]

Back on the original thread of this convo...

I've gone all road with my comp-carbon EVO. I bought some truly lovely Terra CLX wheels and plugged in a 12-25 cassette.

I like to spin, so the 12 cog on the 46 chainring lets me get comfortably above the assist range to about 30 mph before I spin out, that's enough, no uphills also means no downhills. No more gear gaps, although its pretty long-legged for the bottom, but usually fine on the flat roads here in Texas.

It feels so so fast! i'm delighted with the result and the bike is down to about 28 pounds with pedals, bottle cages and heavy Spesh Armadillo tires/tubes (I hate flats so I'll put up with that).

 

[mschwett]

Back on the original thread of this convo...

I've gone all road with my comp-carbon EVO. I bought some truly lovely Terra CLX wheels and plugged in a 12-25 cassette.

I like to spin, so the 12 cog on the 46 chainring lets me get comfortably above the assist range to about 30 mph before I spin out, that's enough, no uphills also means no downhills. No more gear gaps, although its pretty long-legged for the bottom, but usually fine on the flat roads here in Texas.

It feels so so fast! i'm delighted with the result and the bike is down to about 28 pounds with pedals, bottle cages and heavy Spesh Armadillo tires/tubes (I hate flats so I'll put up with that).

wow ! interesting setup. since both of your extremes (12 and 25) are within the range of the original, i assume the benefits here are the smaller gaps and lighter weight?

 

[Alaskan]

The Cannondale Topstone Neo Carbon 2 is a rare bird with a Bosch speed motor, 500 Watt battery a Shimano GRX groupset with a 2x11 drive traIn - 11-34 in back and 32/48 chainrings, fixed carbon forks, weighs just 36 lbs. Hard to find but one for sale on ebay right now. Designed as a gravel bike but very road capable.

Topstone Neo Carbon 2

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There is a Canadian spec version in the Bellingham, WA REI with a class 1 20mph Bosch CX motor instead of the speed, class 3 motor. It is a large frame sellling at 20% discount $5600

 

[Jack Cox]

That class 1 thing, no thanks. It’s a lovely bike though! I like the lefty fork on the other versions too!

 

[Alaskan]

That class 1 thing, no thanks. It’s a lovely bike though! I like the lefty fork on the other versions too!

I have the Topstone Carbon Neo 3 with the lefty and the class 3, 28 mph Bosch motor. It is an amazing bike It does have a 1x11 drive train unlike the Neo 2 which has the 2x11 drive train which is what made it more relevant to this topic.

 

[Jack Cox]

I have the Topstone Carbon Neo 3 with the lefty and the class 3, 28 mph Bosch motor. It is an amazing bike It does have a 1x11 drive train unlike the Neo 2 which has the 2x11 drive train which is what made it more relevant to this topic.

Does the Bosch motor have shift detection? I will tell you I think the Creo is awfully hard on drivetrain parts. I have about 1k on my bike and the cassette looked ROUGH. (Admitted - I’m not the best at lift & shift)

 

[Alaskan]

Does the Bosch motor have shift detection? I will tell you I think the Creo is awfully hard on drivetrain parts. I have about 1k on my bike and the cassette looked ROUGH. (Admitted - I’m not the best at lift & shift)

Bosch motors have had shift detection for quite some time now. I still ease off on pedal pressure when I shift at pedeals high and low...most of the time. It makes shifting quieter and I assume from the reduced thunks and assorted noises, helps the wear parts (chain, chainring, rear cogs) last longer.

 

[Jack Cox]

Bosch motors have had shift detection for quite some time now. I still ease off on pedal pressure when I shift at pedeals high and low...most of the time. It makes shifting quieter and I assume from the reduced thunks and assorted noises, helps the wear parts (chain, chainring, rear cogs) last longer.

Does it make a noticeable pause in power, or just enough of a blip while it shifts to smooth things out?

 

[Alaskan]

Does it make a noticeable pause in power, or just enough of a blip while it shifts to smooth things out?

It must be a very brief pause as I really have never noticed any hesitation of loss of momentum, even when climbing a steep grade..

 

[mschwett]

Bosch motors have had shift detection for quite some time now. I still ease off on pedal pressure when I shift at pedeals high and low...most of the time. It makes shifting quieter and I assume from the reduced thunks and assorted noises, helps the wear parts (chain, chainring, rear cogs) last longer.

same. shifting under load works, and i’ll do it in a pinch (sudden loss of momentum up a steep grade) but it sounds terrible and hurts my soul. just the tiniest bit of relief on the pedals is enough for my creo to shift much more smoothly and quietly.

 

[Jack Cox]

same. shifting under load works, and i’ll do it in a pinch (sudden loss of momentum up a steep grade) but it sounds terrible and hurts my soul. just the tiniest bit of relief on the pedals is enough for my creo to shift much more smoothly and quietly.

And it definitely does do damage- however if I hadn’t removed the old cassette, I wouldn’t have known. It was still shifting great.

I switched to a shimano cassette from the sunrace right after I bought it. I can’t imagine what that POS would have looked like - and it didn’t shift great to begin with.

The chain was actually fine (oddly) and unstretched.

 

[MikeSL1]

I've posted before that I really like the Creo but my two biggest complaints about the bike are the odd spacing for the wheels which makes it a lot harder to buy a second set and the 1X drivetrain. I normally ride with not that much assist so I like to have a nice range of gears. I find the 1X drivetrain results in have a "gappy cassette" since it's an 11 speed 11-42. I find myself in the lower part of the cassette often and having difficulty finding the right gear for the cadence I want to ride.

But now Powershift is selling their wheels that aim to get rid of the front derailleur and effectively put it into the rear hub. This is great news as this wheelset combined with our bikes will give us the gearing range as if the bike had a 2X drivetrain. Well almost, the size of the chainring is a bit small and means you can't really get that high gear you want.

The problem is that they don't offer the wheel in the spacing we need for the Creo. I've already gone on the company's website asking if they'll make a wheelset that will fit the Creo. If you feel the same way please post a similar message. I can only hope they make this in the correct size for the Creo.

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Hi, I had a problem with a replacement for the front wheel due to original being 110mm Boost and all wheels on offer were 100mm. I just got some aluminium tube that slid over the axle 5mm in length both sides and it works fine. I cant see why this would not work on the rear wheel

 

[ActionJackson]

Sounds like they can deal with 145mm ?? :

We have developed a universal thru-axle, in order to mount system on any existing frame with disc brakes. No modifications to your frame are required!

 

[Alaskan]

Hi, I had a problem with a replacement for the front wheel due to original being 110mm Boost and all wheels on offer were 100mm. I just got some aluminium tube that slid over the axle 5mm in length both sides and it works fine. I cant see why this would not work on the rear wheel

Putting 110mm axle on a boost bike can be done but, in addition to 5 mm spacers on each side, you also need to offset the disc brake rotor. You can get an inexpensive kit on ebay to make an easy job of it,

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[Jack Cox]

Putting 110mm axle on a boost bike can be done but, in addition to 5 mm spacers on each side, you also need to offset the disc brake rotor. You can get an inexpensive kit on ebay to make an easy job of it,

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The real issue with this kit is that the front wheel is a 12mm axle, not 15.