If that's what makes you feel better,Well... at the risk of insinuating that you're not keeping up with current events and/or paying attention in general, that ship has sailed my good man.
Loooooooong sailed away...
.Back to tariffs.
With 125% tariffs, will the e-bike market die?
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.Back to tariffs.
DaveMatthews
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It most certainly doesn't make anyone "feel better" mate.If that's what makes you feel better,
Back to tariffs.
It's just a world wide fact.
Go ahead and ignore it, but that changes nothing. The rest of planet earth is moving on, without you...
Get over your fine self...
Have you consider Trump did the world a favor with the tariff game? Why would the rest of the world want to be dependent on one country. And if they weren't dependent, why would US customers paying more for your exported crap (except maple leaf cookies are good) give all the countries hissy fits?
Gionnirocket
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I have and it's about the stupidest thing I've heard since the last time Trump spoke.
DaveMatthews
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It would seem as though you just admitted that he is/you are not the leader of the free world.
Nicely done sir...
Next...
Still the leader; trying to get the kids to grow up.It would seem as though you just admitted that he is/you are not the leader of the free world.
Nicely done sir...
Next...
DaveMatthews
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Sorry mate... you're the only one who thinks so. The rest of us have moved on...
Didn't I say that was the goal? Fly young birdie!
DaveMatthews
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What gave you the impression I'm a Native American?Lol!
OK, copy that dead eagle...
Sorry all, back to tariffs.
Mr. Coffee
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That is probably the healthiest response to the insanity and gaslighting here.This is really weird. I am only seeing half the conversation because I black listed someone into IGNORE.
Stefan Mikes
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I liked that one:
'European Union sells 13 million cars to us. They do not buy from us. They have no cards'
I'd say the EU has a good thirteen million car(d)s a year.
'European Union sells 13 million cars to us. They do not buy from us. They have no cards'
I'd say the EU has a good thirteen million car(d)s a year.
Gionnirocket
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No... As there are many alternatives.I liked that one:
'European Union sells 13 million cars to us. They do not buy from us. They have no cards'
I'd say the EU has a good thirteen million cards a year.
What they (you) buy is more valuable.
PedalUma
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What is cool is that I have motor and battery orders to place this week and the new 30% tariff takes place 1 minute after midnight Eastern time. I will write up the email requests and press send at 9:03 Pacific tonight. And pay in the morning.
This is what I keep seeing:
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DaveMatthews
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Apologies for contributing to the mess...
Mr. Coffee
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I think if you look at the last five thousand years of human history you will find that prosperous and stable civilizations all had robust (and often surprisingly wide-ranging) trade networks (Rome traded with China and India two thousand years ago). "Self-sufficient" autarkies were much less prosperous and much less stable.
Modern manufacturing is very capital-intensive and highly technically specialized. And shipping costs are essentially zero. And with automation you can produce at enormous scale with relatively few factories making a given item. What you end up with is specific items might only be produced in one or two places in the world.
Also the "trade deficit" is an accounting mirage. Every year the entire world runs a trade deficit with itself. Which wouldn't be possible if it was not an artificial statistical creation that was measured cluelessly. And when we talk about a "trade deficit" we are always talking about physical merchandise and not services. Most of the US economy is about services so it isn't surprising that we'd run a "trade deficit" in physical goods. Services are badly and cluelessly accounted for in the trade statistics as well and that makes the numbers appear much different than they really are.
This was all patiently explained to me by a very kind economics grad student forty years ago. It is even more true today than it was then.
Modern manufacturing is very capital-intensive and highly technically specialized. And shipping costs are essentially zero. And with automation you can produce at enormous scale with relatively few factories making a given item. What you end up with is specific items might only be produced in one or two places in the world.
Also the "trade deficit" is an accounting mirage. Every year the entire world runs a trade deficit with itself. Which wouldn't be possible if it was not an artificial statistical creation that was measured cluelessly. And when we talk about a "trade deficit" we are always talking about physical merchandise and not services. Most of the US economy is about services so it isn't surprising that we'd run a "trade deficit" in physical goods. Services are badly and cluelessly accounted for in the trade statistics as well and that makes the numbers appear much different than they really are.
This was all patiently explained to me by a very kind economics grad student forty years ago. It is even more true today than it was then.
Our server (12 of us at one time) from 3 nights ago at a small restaurant. The waitress and the server took care of 10 groups while we were there. Never felt left out by our waitress. Server showed up, waitress quickly set meals on table. Gotta love technology.
PedalUma
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Letter to suppler today:
I would like to place orders for three DM02 motors 48V, with T-154 small displays, shipped to me. Please add about 12 hours to this order’s quote and placement for the new 30% tariffs, not the 145%. I am sorry for the extra work. It has been taxing for all with the self-inflicted chaos here and worldwide. My deepest apologies to those workers in the essential tech sector in your region and the impacts on our trust in mutual global relationships. I trust my relationship with you. I hold up and support you here.
I will pay you in the morning, California time.
Thanks again for your continued encouragement, assistance, and appreciation of the custom bike build photos.
I would like to place orders for three DM02 motors 48V, with T-154 small displays, shipped to me. Please add about 12 hours to this order’s quote and placement for the new 30% tariffs, not the 145%. I am sorry for the extra work. It has been taxing for all with the self-inflicted chaos here and worldwide. My deepest apologies to those workers in the essential tech sector in your region and the impacts on our trust in mutual global relationships. I trust my relationship with you. I hold up and support you here.
I will pay you in the morning, California time.
Thanks again for your continued encouragement, assistance, and appreciation of the custom bike build photos.
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