Will you choose it?

[Jacky Zhou]

after some experience I(and great falls) have come to believe fattires are overrated for the average ride.

In all honesty, I'm only 170cm and with a fat tire with a very high cushion, it would be difficult for me because it's just big and heavy!

 

[Tom@WashDC]

I like this wording on thier site:
"Kodiak ST Full Suspension Mountain E-Bike, Feel Every Bump, Ride Everywhere"

 

[Jacky Zhou]

Looks Beautiful, but research the Kodiak ST Full Suspension Mountain E-Bike’s features, reviews, and specifications before deciding to buy.

This is pertinent advice, at the moment I'm just attracted by its looks, it's not on the market yet, and due to my height, I may not be able to handle it.
But I have experienced similar mountain ebikes and love their shocks and speed so much.

 

[Jacky Zhou]

I like this wording on thier site:
"Kodiak ST Full Suspension Mountain E-Bike, Feel Every Bump, Ride Everywhere"

Yes, accurately defines mountain and snow riding

 

[Jacky Zhou]

Spammer.....

A very vague answer.

 

[AvalancheRun]

A very vague answer.

Seeing a lot of spammer red flags.

New profile, your location is the same as this very small company, leaving a lot of links, comments about this company exclusively with spammy language, tagged the company multiple times for keywords...

Don't even have the bike, but went to the trouble of adding a profile pic with the bike that has no google results...

 

[Jacky Zhou]

cause it looks cool I guess? I think it makes the bike look way oversized.

Yes, it's big and looks like it would be a good ride for a taller person with a larger weight base

Jacky, according to your location and the store location, It likes like you live only a few blocks away from the store/warehouse! Why don't you visit them and take the bike out for a test ride when if finally drops? You already own one of thier products as stated in a previous post. You probably know them already, I'll bet you they will allow you several test drives.

Let us know

In all honesty, I've inquired about them in email and they have employees in NJ but told me this mountain e-bike won't be available until April and they suggested I could experience their other e-bikes

 

[Tom@WashDC]

This is pertinent advice, at the moment I'm just attracted by its looks, it's not on the market yet, and due to my height, I may not be able to handle it.
But I have experienced similar mountain ebikes and love their shocks and speed so much.

What about the Vetanya Fat Bike in your Avatar. I see from your December 2023 post that you just purchased a Vetanya Folding Fat bike. Were you able to pick it up at the warehouse down the street from you in South El Monte? Were you able to test drive the Vetanya fat bike in your Avatar while you were there?

 

[Jacky Zhou]

Seeing a lot of spammer red flags.

New profile, your location is the same as this very small company, leaving a lot of links, comments about this company exclusively with spammy language, tagged the company multiple times for keywords...

Don't even have the bike, but went to the trouble of adding a profile pic with the bike that has no google results...

I get what you are trying to say, why can't we discuss these new brands anymore, I will also share Aventon, Mokwheel, and Himiway if you want to see them.

 

[Jacky Zhou]

What about the Vetanya Fat Bike in your Avatar. I see from your December 2023 post that you just purchased a Vetanya Folding Fat bike. Were you able to pick it up at the warehouse down the street from you in South El Monte? Were you able to test drive the Vetanya fat bike in your Avatar while you were there?

I know Felix, one of their employees in NJ, test rode their Pika Folding, Alligator Step-thru E-Bike, and honestly would consider it for a few more discounts.
Of course, I asked Felix and it seems that warehouse pickups are not allowed at this time.

 

[Jacky Zhou]

Agree with above — try it — if fat is your thing go for it.
i ride on-road and paved trails with many fats. They may look cool but are generally not the best choice for that type of ride.
Snow? Yes. Go for it.

It's not suitable for city riding, look at its parameters and design, it's made for mountains and snow

 

[Jacky Zhou]

Fat tire was first introduced as sand and snow capable.
How it became otherwise is beyond me.

Like said above, a lot of things are a trend, maybe the market is giving some incorrect direction, such as ebikes with fat tires sell better and are more profitable?

Fat tire was first introduced as sand and snow capable.
How it became otherwise is beyond me.

As said above, a lot of things are a trend, maybe the market is giving some incorrect direction, such as e-bikes with fat tires sell better and are more profitable.

 

[Jacky Zhou]

BTW, I checked with support on thier web site and the tires and the rims are not tubeless capable.

I'll call them directly

 

[Jacky Zhou]

Yup. I've got a Fat Tire (4") Mid Drive, and a Carbon Fiber Mid-Drive with 2.8" tires. My CF will run circles around the fatty on the trails. More nimble, easier to navigate tight turns,rocks, and jump over obstacles. To take any advantage of Fat Tires you gotta run tubeless at 5-7lbs pressure. They do work better on the beach, but that's it.

Fat tires will get you lots of looks, and oooh's and aaaah's, but they handle poorly compared to thinner MTB tubless tires.

Very useful information

 

[Mr. Coffee]

That is not a mid-drive.
Many frame manufacturers are building those bottom bracket cavities so they can offer a mid drive, particulary the Bafang BBSHD motor.

That is very bizarre.

One of the advantages of hub drive bikes is that you can use more or less existing frame designs with very little alteration. If your frame design can take a mid drive I'd think it would almost always be better to have a mid drive -- but that's just me. And on the other side of it it would almost always be less expensive to have a hub drive bike that had a normal bottom bracket and not that weird thang.

Also, in a bike that is being pitched for rough terrain and trails a hub drive makes zero sense. Even with a powerful motor. And speaking of which, for rough terrain you'll care much more about the torque than the power output. Which isn't specified as far as I could find.

It might make sense if one manufacturer offered basically the same bike either as a hub drive or a mid drive. It also would be interesting to do comparisons on the same frame as a mid drive or hub drive.

Honestly, what I think it takes to make great bikes is to have designers who are enthusiastic about riding and eat their own dog food, as it were. What I see here is a company that appears to be OEMing everything and tweaking a few parts and putting their brand on it. Now it is theoretically possible to get a great bike by taking a no-name bike and upgrading a component or two, but it isn't at all likely. I'd trust this company more if I had video of all their designers or senior staff sending it on their bikes.

 

[DaveMatthews]

I'll stick with this...

 

[Jacky Zhou]

I'll stick with this...

I like the color scheme and it looks friendly to the average-height cyclist.

 

[indianajo]

No. I ride for exercise and fat tires are a big drag without power. I only use power for wind >12 mph in my face, or a week when my knee is useless due to a twist incident. I ride 2.1" x 26" tires at 45-60 psi. 30 miles at 4.4 mph as in windy 9/2018 is too much exercise.
I also severely object to a brown stripe up my behind or on pants legs when I get to the store, restaurant, or concert. Or back home again. Showers are time wasters if I did not need to get dirty. I don't sweat until temperature goes over 96 F. Muddy clothes have to be hauled to the coin laundry on the bicycle since the Maytag washer started trying to wash clothes in 2" of water at 15 months of age. The nearest coin laundry to my summer camp is 8 hilly miles away, about 70 minutes without power.

 

[harryS]

Nope. I've also found that fat tires hinder what I like about riding a bike. That bike is just too heavy. I've owned two bikes with fat tires, 26x4: and 20x4". Didn't like either,

 

[Prairie Dog]

A well engineered fatty ridden under the certain conditions can more than handle itself with respect to speed, agility, power and performance. I needed an e-bike that would enable me to ride over varied winter terrain and the Norco Bigfoot VLT1 answered the call. With its 4.5” Wrathchilds and 252 XL concave studs/tire, it was the right tool for the job. It also puts the fun back into winter riding. With that being said, my only adivce to the OP is that not all fat bikes are created equal.