The Ultimate Mid-Drive Chain Care Thread

Just wanted to add a note - was perusing the ZeroFrictionCycling web site and came across an article on Master Links:

In which it says:
Sram eagle xx1 / x01 chains are by far the worlds longest lasting chains but they are so, so slow.

Of course, he's talking acoustic bicycling where every watt matters. For most of us, I suspect losing a few watts to have a longer lasting drivetrain is well worth it.
 
I purchased two KMC e10 EPT Chains for my Himiway Cobra Pro with a 1000w/160Nm mid-drive (keep a spare in rack bag). Also giving the Silca wax system with Nano Tungsten Disulfide wax and one endurance chip a try. Tired of having to degrease the chain so much with a ton of black gritty muck when riding in the sandy/dusty southwest (always used squirt bottle Teflon or wax base chain lubricants after degreasing chain).
 
The lube testing at ZeroFrictionCycling have been discussed up thread. I recently had an opportunity to email the owner, Adam Kerin, and asked him some questions about his test procedure, which he was gracious enough to answer.

As those that have visited the site and read the extensive documentation and spreadsheet know, his testing has been going on for several years using a machine-driven normal acoustic bike drivetrain. The testing is done in 1,000km sequential "blocks," where the blocks go from clean/dry to dusty to clean/dry to wet to clean-dry to "heavy contamination." The purpose of alternating is to simulate different riding conditions week by week.

While the chains are re-lubricated on a specified schedule (every 333 kms in the clean/dry and every 167kms on the others), he does not perform chain cleaning at all. He believes this to be a fair approximation of real-world use. I took issue with that because the re-lubrication process for the immersive chain wax products is quite different than for the others, which are all in drip bottles. The immersive chain wax re-lube process has him remove the chain and submerge it into a vat of hot/molten chain wax (different brands), stir, then hang up to dry and re-install on the bike.

He agrees with me that this process will remove more dirt/contamination than just dripping new lube onto a chain that's still on the bike. And, he thinks this show-cases the advantage of immersive chain waxes. However, the amount of effort involved in doing this is quite different. I suggested that he include at least a minimal chain cleaning step before the drip products re-lube in order to normalize the time and effort between all products. He doesn't agree.

To me, this calls into question comparing the effectiveness of different product types. He is saying "no cleaning for any product," but he's not normalizing the time and effort needed for the re-lube process. He did say he's had a few similar inquiries from other people, and so added my "vote" to include such a comparison in future testing, which would involve an initial immersive wax followed by periodic drip waxing. This is more in line with what I suspect many riders would tolerate, time-wise.

When you look at ZFC's table, all the immersive wax products except one (which must be really bad) are at the very top. To me, that says more about the process of re-lubing than the effectiveness of the products themselves. That any of the drip wax or wet lube products can come close to that performance given the handicap of not having a vat of product to flush out dirt - just a drop on each link - is actually pretty amazing.

EDIT: I should mention that all the wax-based products have the disadvantage of needing hours to dry before you hit the road/trail. You can drip wet lube onto your bike just before heading out, but the drip wax products need to dry first or they'll be wet and dirt will stick to them like crazy.
 
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To save people time, here's the current (Oct 2025) top 25 or so lube listings, cumulative from all blocks, in order from Zero Friction Cycling, with product type notation and private products removed:

ProductTypeNotes
Silca Hot MeltImmersive Wax
Mspeedwax New FormulaImmersive Wax
Finish Line Halo IM wax (*RE-Test Jan 25)Immersive Wax
Rex Black Diamond Wax - 11+1 mixImmersive Wax
Rex Black Diamond Wax - 4+1 MixImmersive Wax
Silca + Endurance Chip - *Extended intervals*Immersive WaxMore distance between re-lubing
Optimize BikeImmersive Wax
Dynamic Wander WaxImmersive Wax
Silca Hot wax XImmersive Wax
Candle waxImmersive Wax
Effetto Mariposa Flower power waxDrip Wax
Ceramic Spd UFO Drip New FormulaDrip Wax
Molten Speed Wax Original FormulaImmersive Wax
Tru Tension Tungsten Race - (*D.A)Drip WaxLess distance between re-lubing
Tru Tension Tungsten All WeatherDrip Wax
Session S-WaxDrip Wax
Silca Super Secret DripDrip Wax
Silca SynergeticWet Lube
Ceramic Speed Wet ConditionsDrip Wax
Rex Black DiamondWet Lube
SmooveDrip Wax
Allied GRAXDrip Wax
Rex DomestiqueWet Lube
SquirtDrip Wax
Nix Frix ShunWet Lube
Boeshield T9 - AerosolWet Lube

It was interesting to note that Shimano factory grease did reasonably well on the first clean/dry block, but as soon as things got dusty, the chain wore out. Also, that Muc-Offs lube products were uniformly really bad.

Note that if you're a dry, on-road cyclist, you might not care about performance in Block 4 and 5 (wet and contamination). When you do that, the top list changes to:
Silca Hot wax XImmersive Wax
Rex Black Diamond Wax - 4+1 MixImmersive Wax
Mspeedwax New FormulaImmersive Wax
Rex Black Diamond Wax - 11+1 mixImmersive Wax
Effetto Mariposa Flower power waxDrip Wax
Silca + Endurance Chip - *Extended intervals*Immersive Wax
Ceramic Spd UFO Drip New FormulaDrip Wax
Silca Hot MeltImmersive Wax
Silca Super Secret DripDrip Wax
Optimize BikeImmersive Wax
Tru Tension Tungsten Race - (*D.A)Drip Wax
Molten Speed Wax Original FormulaImmersive Wax
Finish Line Halo IM wax (*RE-Test Jan 25)Immersive Wax
Dynamic Wander WaxImmersive Wax
Candle waxImmersive Wax
Session S-WaxDrip Wax
Silca Synerg-EWet Lube
Rex Black DiamondWet Lube
Finish Line Halo Drip wax (*Re-Test)Drip Wax
Tru Tension Tungsten All WeatherDrip Wax
SmooveDrip Wax

Of course, if you do get caught in the rain, then you might want to re-lube that night before putting the bike away.
 
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To save people time, here's the current (Oct 2025) top 25 or so lube listings, cumulative from all blocks, in order from Zero Friction Cycling, with product type notation and private products removed:

ProductTypeNotes
Silca Hot MeltImmersive Wax
Mspeedwax New FormulaImmersive Wax
Finish Line Halo IM wax (*RE-Test Jan 25)Immersive Wax
Rex Black Diamond Wax - 11+1 mixImmersive Wax
Rex Black Diamond Wax - 4+1 MixImmersive Wax
Silca + Endurance Chip - *Extended intervals*Immersive WaxMore distance between re-lubing
Optimize BikeImmersive Wax
Dynamic Wander WaxImmersive Wax
Silca Hot wax XImmersive Wax
Candle waxImmersive Wax
Effetto Mariposa Flower power waxDrip Wax
Ceramic Spd UFO Drip New FormulaDrip Wax
Molten Speed Wax Original FormulaImmersive Wax
Tru Tension Tungsten Race - (*D.A)Drip WaxLess distance between re-lubing
Tru Tension Tungsten All WeatherDrip Wax
Session S-WaxDrip Wax
Silca Super Secret DripDrip Wax
Silca SynergeticWet Lube
Ceramic Speed Wet ConditionsDrip Wax
Rex Black DiamondWet Lube
SmooveDrip Wax
Allied GRAXDrip Wax
Rex DomestiqueWet Lube
SquirtDrip Wax
Nix Frix ShunWet Lube
Boeshield T9 - AerosolWet Lube

It was interesting to note that Shimano factory grease did reasonably well on the first clean/dry block, but as soon as things got dusty, the chain wore out. Also, that Muc-Offs lube products were uniformly really bad.

Note that if you're a dry, on-road cyclist, you might not care about performance in Block 4 and 5 (wet and contamination). When you do that, the top list changes to:
Silca Hot wax XImmersive Wax
Rex Black Diamond Wax - 4+1 MixImmersive Wax
Mspeedwax New FormulaImmersive Wax
Rex Black Diamond Wax - 11+1 mixImmersive Wax
Effetto Mariposa Flower power waxDrip Wax
Silca + Endurance Chip - *Extended intervals*Immersive Wax
Ceramic Spd UFO Drip New FormulaDrip Wax
Silca Hot MeltImmersive Wax
Silca Super Secret DripDrip Wax
Optimize BikeImmersive Wax
Tru Tension Tungsten Race - (*D.A)Drip Wax
Molten Speed Wax Original FormulaImmersive Wax
Finish Line Halo IM wax (*RE-Test Jan 25)Immersive Wax
Dynamic Wander WaxImmersive Wax
Candle waxImmersive Wax
Session S-WaxDrip Wax
Silca Synerg-EWet Lube
Rex Black DiamondWet Lube
Finish Line Halo Drip wax (*Re-Test)Drip Wax
Tru Tension Tungsten All WeatherDrip Wax
SmooveDrip Wax

Of course, if you do get caught in the rain, then you might want to re-lube that night before putting the bike away.
How are these lubes ranked? On miles to some fixed measure of elongation?
 
How are these lubes ranked? On miles to some fixed measure of elongation?
Yes. He uses two KMC digital chain checkers, measuring each chain when new and then at intervals during the test. He considers a chain worn out at 0.5% even if some drivetrains can tolerate more stretch, that's OK since this is a comparative test.

Unfortunately, the numbers he enters into the spreadsheet are not the actual percentage elongation numbers, but "number of chains worn to 0.5% by the end of the block." I believe there's a straightforward mathematical formula for converting (eg, if a chain is worn to 0.75% then 1.5 chains were worn during the test), so I don't know why he felt the need to invent a new metric.
 
The ZFC guy uses the KMC digital chain checkers, which are really just dedicated digital calipers with "prongs" that fit in chains (not 13 speed chains, btw) and have a spring to apply tension. Since this is a 2-prong system and zeroing is done when off the chain, it will incorporate roller to bushing wear into the measurement, and so you may be replacing your chain somewhat prematurely. It's also worth noting that while the display is in 0.01mm increments, the claimed accuracy is only to 0.02mm - which I believe means it could be off by 0.01mm in either direction. I also wonder about the zeroing process, which seems to rely on internal construction accuracy, and not like a normal caliper which you can zero by having the two prongs touch.

There are apparently two models - and I think KMC updated the checker to be somewhat larger, so that previously 0.4mm was equivalent 0.5% wear, it's now 0.6mm that's equivalent to 0.5% wear. Even at 0.6mm, that's still only 60 steps between no wear and ZFC's "100% wear," so take his partial percentage readings with caution on regards to the precision. Even Adam at XFC groups similarly performed lubes together, calling his tests "a blunt instrument."

Also, since I run an SRAM Eagle (GX groupset, X01 chain) drivetrain, I was a bit worried about chain checker/measurement compatibility. Turns out that only the Flat-top chains from SRAM use larger rollers, and so none of the two-prong only checkers measure those properly. However, the 3-prong checkers, by measuring from the same side of the rollers at both ends, do measure accurately for all chains. Pedro's makes an affordable 3-prong checker:
Which is certified by SRAM as compatible with all their chains.

I also think the Shimano TL-CN42 checker, with its split right prong, is also essentially a 3-prong checker and will be accurate with all chains as well.

In general, I think the 3-prong checkers are going to be superior to the 2-prong checkers in just about every way, even the fancy/expensive KMC 2-prong digital chain checker. You can use digital calipers as described in the first post in this thread to zero out the roller wear, and thus act like a 3-prong checker.

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Finally - and this was/is a big revelation - SRAM says that their Eagle and Flat-Top drivetrains are fine with up to 0.8% chain stretch! Here's a couple of links:
Note that SRAM says their 10/11 speed road chains should be replaced earlier.

To me, this means that instead of replacing at 0.5% measured wear, I can safely go to 0.75% measured wear. And with the Eagle X01 chains being the longest lasting anyway, with proper lubrication/cleaning I expect to get a lot of miles on my chains.

BTW, I've heard reports that some chains from Amazon are fake, especially Shimanos. So, be careful what you order - might be best to ensure it's being shipped from a approved retailer.
 
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