The Green Room

[Handlebars]

Consider that the boomers were both the largest age cohort and the first generation growing up with household electricity. In history.

There were no Radios

Those are bizarre beliefs. LOOK:

“Next to the increasing importance of hydrocarbons as sources of energy,” economist Erich Zimmermann wrote in 1951, “the rise of electricity is the most characteristic feature of the so-called second industrial revolution.”[9] In recent years, people in countries from China to Kenya have experienced rising living standards, as more people are able to use electricity to keep their homes and schools cool during torrid summers, to refrigerate food that would have otherwise spoiled, and to purify water that would have otherwise been unsafe to drink.

 

[ActionJackson]

It’s hard to find support for alternatives. I lost most support from the horticultural community when I declared an end to all pesticide and herbicides. But when I managed to increase he quality and hand back tens of thousands of dollars not pissed away on lazy solutions I was finally able to take on even more least toxic solutions. And all at a casino hotel. Howz that for irony?

all it took was acting like I didn’t need the job and finding researchers interested in non toxic solution.

warning a goofy video with an overly ecstatic me.

So you spent 20 years wasting precious water and energy resources to grow lilies in the desert ?! And you claim to be concerned about climate change.

BAHAHAHAHA! Hypocrite much?

 

[Handlebars]

So you spent 20 years wasting precious water and energy resources to grow lilies in the desert ?! And you claim to be concerned about climate change.

BAHAHAHAHA! Hypocrite much?

It was less bad, like when these "holier than thou" phony greensters go on an RV tour around the country, but eat organic muffins and kefir along the way.

 

[Handlebars]

So what is irrational about recognizing that the numbers are massively inflated? Are they underestimating? Could be. I'm interested in hearing arguments that the numbers are not inflated.
When I see local numbers of deaths 10X what the hospital is reporting I do suspect that these people are the 80 yr olds dying at home in their sleep.
I like to use extreme leftoid evidence production for our greenies. Jimmy Dore is extreme leftoid and so is the guest, who supports WHO, lockdowns, masking, vaccines, and government health .

 

[Handlebars]

Freedom of Information release in UK England and Wales data
From 13 March 2020 to 7 January 2021
Death certificates mentioning covid as contributory factor 137,133
Deaths from covid with no other underlying cause in England and Wales 17,371

 

[Cowlitz]

When I painted it was houses inside and out.. Cabinets, stain, some cars and so on... Try doing that with a n95 mask.. wont work to well..

An N95 mask is not for painting. You should have been wearing an approved respirator.

Go ahead and don't wear a mask. I will continue to do so. I've seen our forests get in terrible shape by so called "experts" who had no education or training in the science of forestry, making management decisions. I've even worked on units where a judge ordered what kind of logging system must be used. That didn't work out so well. Now we have the same sort of "experts" denying what real medical professionals prescribe and suggest. Will I take the information from a former house painter or my really went to school and studied medicine doctor? Hmmmm.

I'll stick with real professionals and their recommendations. I'm wearing my new N95 mask to orchestra rehearsal tonight. We won't be doing any painting. Wind instruments have coverings over the outlets that are specifically made to filter their air.

 

[Handlebars]

An N95 mask is not for painting.

I'll stick with real professionals and their recommendations.

Which real professionals say that n95 is for virus protection?

 

[PedalUma]

To pick up with @Art Deco. I have a minor observation. Are we really so lazy that we cannot mix water with concentrate in a reusable container? Grocery stores these days will have the entire side of one isle dedicated to juices. These are each made from concentrate and sold in plastic jugs. All those jugs were manufactured for onetime use. All the water that is not concentrate, tons of it, was shipped hundreds of miles burning diesel. But the stores no longer sell the economic concentrate itself, except they may have two flavors in the store brand. It is so wasteful.

 

[Gionnirocket]

To pick up with @Art Deco. I have a minor observation. Are we really so lazy that we cannot mix water with concentrate in a reusable container? Grocery stores these days will have the entire side of one isle dedicated to juices. These are each made from concentrate and sold in plastic jugs. All those jugs were manufactured for onetime use. All the water that is not concentrate, tons of it, was shipped hundreds of miles burning diesel. But the stores no longer sell the economic concentrate itself, except they may have two flavors in the store brand. It is so wasteful.

Wouldn't work... Most (morons) would buy bottled water to mix with the concentrate.

 

[DavidRvR]

An N95 mask is not for painting. You should have been wearing an approved respirator.

Go ahead and don't wear a mask. I will continue to do so. I've seen our forests get in terrible shape by so called "experts" who had no education or training in the science of forestry, making management decisions. I've even worked on units where a judge ordered what kind of logging system must be used. That didn't work out so well. Now we have the same sort of "experts" denying what real medical professionals prescribe and suggest. Will I take the information from a former house painter or my really went to school and studied medicine doctor? Hmmmm.

I'll stick with real professionals and their recommendations. I'm wearing my new N95 mask to orchestra rehearsal tonight. We won't be doing any painting. Wind instruments have coverings over the outlets that are specifically made to filter their air.

You are telling a guy who painted for 10 years what is and isnt supposed to be worn for painting? Haaa OOOoooK... Water based is ok with N95... Respirator is good for Oil Based and such...

CDC updates mask guidance, says N95s offer 'highest protection'

The agency stopped short of recommending one type of mask over another, sticking with previous advice that the best mask is one worn correctly and consistently.

www.nbcnews.com

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Friday updated its guidance on masks for the general public, now saying that people "may choose" to wear N95 and KN95 masks because they offer the best protection against Covid-19.

Thought the CDC is the end all say all... Works for a virus but not paint in larger particles? Ummm ok.. Your thinking is a little backwards.

 

[DavidRvR]

Which real professionals say that n95 is for virus protection?

See above

 

[PedalUma]

Wouldn't work... Most (morons) would buy bottled water to mix with the concentrate.

That is funny. Because another isle is dedicated to bottled water. That is just municipal water from another municipality, such as Fiji.

 

[DavidRvR]

Do you think this will happen in a few more places? Honest question.. Seems the numbers have been skewed (for a lack of a better term that wont offend)

Oppressive COVID Measures for the Unvaccinated Were Based on 'Software' Error, Claims German Minister. - The National Pulse

The “pandemic of the unvaccinated” was caused by a computer glitch. That was the conclusion of the Health Minister of Germany Karl Lauterbach, after months of vilifying the unvaccinated in the nation’s second largest city, Hamburg.In November 2021, news outlets reported on the increasing...

thenationalpulse.com

On January 17th, Health Minister Karl Lauterbach had the following to say:

“…with the situation in Hamburg… I can claim without a doubt that the problem was in the automatic classifier of the software. The problem is solved now… and it was a mistake and was not done on purpose in order to largely blame the unvaccinated for the pandemic…”

The city of Hamburg was not the only region affected by false COVID numbers.

Seems Coincidental that the numbers are skewed at a higher number and never lower.. England came out with 17k that had died what they originally claimed

Cdc director said they are going to audit and 75% of the number will change because they had 4 or more comorbidities... We will see how it goes .. so to my question

How would you feel if the covid numbers are much lower than the have projected and claimed ... Not saying some are not affected just asking the question... What if I guess

What if the numbers turn out to be very low.. How would some of you feel? Not asking for a justification just an honest answer is all.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Thought the CDC is the end all say all... Works for a virus but not paint in larger particles? Ummm ok.. Your thinking is a little backwards.

Another example that a little bit of knowledge can not only be dangerous, but often proves to dumb and dumber.

 

[DavidRvR]

Another example that a little bit of knowledge can not only be dangerous, but often proves to dumb and dumber.

Haaa ... ..Tell me about it ....nothing to add ? Its pretty basic so I dont think all will understand. Again it works for a virus per the CDC but your saying it doesnt work for paint?

Knowledge is power so please instead of insults add something of value? Maybe on how it doesnt work? or ?

 

[ActionJackson]

To pick up with @Art Deco. I have a minor observation. Are we really so lazy that we cannot mix water with concentrate in a reusable container? Grocery stores these days will have the entire side of one isle dedicated to juices. These are each made from concentrate and sold in plastic jugs. All those jugs were manufactured for onetime use. All the water that is not concentrate, tons of it, was shipped hundreds of miles burning diesel. But the stores no longer sell the economic concentrate itself, except they may have two flavors in the store brand. It is so wasteful.

But most concentrates are frozen and require a lot of electricity to store and distribute. If they could make a concentrate that can be stored without refrigeration than it would be a winner.

Alternatively they could place a huge tax on reconstituted orange juice to deter people from buying it. Remove reconstituted ready to drink orange juice from food stamps and EBT eligibility. You could offer those folks Orange Koolaid and sugar as a substitute.

 

[PedalUma]

There are international standards for the juice concentrate wholesale commodities trade. Much of it comes from Brazil. The extraction process uses slow chilling to create large ice crystals which are then filtered. After that it is only a matter of maintaining the lower than freezing temperature during transport. That is what juice bottlers do.

 

[ActionJackson]

There are international standards for the juice concentrate wholesale commodities trade. Much of it comes from Brazil. The extraction process uses slow chilling to create large ice crystals which are then filtered. After that it is only a matter of maintaining the lower than freezing temperature during transport. That is what juice bottlers do.

could start reducing plastic, glass, and metal waste by implementing a meaningful trash sort and recycling program. When I visit Los Angeles it seems like only the homeless people are doing their part for recycling.

 

[PedalUma]

"Recycling" a onetime use product that could last and be reused for a substantial time is wasteful. Reuse is much better. I have a onetime use water bottle that I have used everyday for over one-year. I recycle cycles by taking older bikes by updating them and pushing their imbedded carbon foot print forward. Two early '90's bikes came into today. A very cool 1987 mountain bike comes in on Saturday. It will have 90Nm, go 45Kph on the torque sensor, and have a stealthy 48V, 10.5Ah battery. Stefan's clunky new bike goes 20Kph and he posts and boasts about it. Which is foolish as well as wasteful.

 

[PatriciaK]

"Recycling" a onetime use product that could last and be reused for a substantial time is wasteful. Reuse is much better. I have a onetime use water bottle that I have used everyday for over one-year. I recycle cycles by taking older bikes by updating them and pushing their imbedded carbon foot print forward. Two early '90's bikes came into today. A very cool 1987 mountain bike comes in on Saturday. It will have 90Nm, go 45Kph on the torque sensor, and have a stealthy 48V, 10.5Ah battery. Stefan's clunky new bike goes 20Kph and he posts and boasts about it. Which is foolish as well as wasteful.
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Geez I really wish people would stop insulting each other!

What you do is great, Pedaluma, but by your thinking, no one should ever purchase a new bike, because it's "wasteful". And, I believe there are laws in the EU that govern how fast a bike can go on pedal assist, so why bring that up like it's a fault - and like it's Stefan's fault? OK, he's excited about his bikes - so what? You're excited about your skills in rejuvenating and updating bikes - so what? Why not live and let live? Is it really necessary to boost yourself up by knocking someone else down?