The Green Room

[ActionJackson]

Looks like you two had a special time together... Who's the dominant?

That was his room. My wife and I had the suite next door.

 

[Handlebars]

Leftoids have lost their rmarbles:
They are not your kids. You just have to care for them or go to jail. Old hippies will enforce. You need to be tracked and government agency approved if you want to buy some potatoes.

 

[Gionnirocket]

That was his room. My wife and I had the suite next door.

You're wife is into it too!?!?
BONUS!!!

 

[DavidRvR]

You are a good man Cowlitz for doing that for a friend. It amazes me what they have put people through for any type of medical treatment...Or no treatment at all... Went to get my haircut from my barber and he was dressed like a stormtrooper... Scared to get a bug so he was suited up for the "Cold hard Winter". The measures we take sometimes..

At times we all forget we are all Human... and forget that when we are in the middle of a discussion.. We all have strong views and they might come across as negative but we are all in this together regardless of view..

No need to be negative about ones perceptions or differences... That is what makes the Human race what it is and difference of opinions is what makes America Great.. Nazis had ideas and they thought they were right also... maybe they were on somethings.. but the End to the Means is what did a lot of people in... The Cure was harder than the disease in many eyes.. even today..

Wait till we see how bad the last 2 years of being shut down and face covered has done to our society.... Some will say it was necessary ... Time will tell...

https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/01/20/mask-mandates-causing-speech-delays/

Is this what we want as a society? Is this what has been advocated or accepted? Sad for everyone, especially the Children we are sworn to protect. It really is.. But when do we stop and re-assess ?

At what cost has it been worth it?

I think this stuff will overshadow any other World issue in the coming years.

BTW That is a beautiful picture of your dog ... perfect setup.. Mans best friend...

 

[DavidRvR]

You're wife is into it too!?!?
BONUS!!!

Not sure what I am missing? Seen Animals treated better than some kids.. Father inlaw would take Chicken and heat it and tear it apart every day for his dogs..They ate better than most kids.. Im not an animal person.. decided a long time ago it wasnt fair to whatever animal for us to have if we didnt have time to walk it or take care of it like it should be..

I opted for Grand kids instead.. They are much better IMO.

 

[Handlebars]

Wait till we see how bad the last 2 years of being shut down and face covered has done to our society.... Some will say it was necessary ... Time will tell...

https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/01/20/mask-mandates-causing-speech-delays/

Is this what we want as a society? Is this what has been advocated or accepted? Sad for everyone, especially the Children we are sworn to protect. It really is.. But when do we stop and re-assess ?

At what cost has it been worth it?

"Leveraging a large on-going longitudinal study of child neurodevelopment, we examined general childhood cognitive scores in 2020 and 2021 vs. the preceding decade, 2011-2019. We find that children born during the pandemic have significantly reduced verbal, motor, and overall cognitive performance compared to children born pre-pandemic. Moreover, we find that males and children in lower socioeconomic families have been most affected. Results highlight that even in the absence of direct SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 illness, the environmental changes associated COVID-19 pandemic is significantly and negatively affecting infant and child development."

Many have found new purpose in the restrictions and enforcement. Many do not want to let go of their newfound powers, whether to decree or to blow the whistle on their neighbors.

 

[Cowlitz]

I am not a man. And I do believe that mask wearing is important right now. It really isn't much to do--wearing a mask, when you think about what other people have gone through.

At the time my friend was going through so much, the hospitals were dealing with a large amount of Covid patients. This was after vaccinations were easy to come by.

 

[Handlebars]

And I do believe that mask wearing is important right now. It really isn't much to do--wearing a mask, when you think about what other people have gone through.

But doesn't that that depend on whose health you think is important and whose health is not?
Doesn't it depend on situation?
For example, if you are walking in a park without a mask, should you be arrested and thrown into a filthy cell?

 

[DavidRvR]

I am not a man. And I do believe that mask wearing is important right now. It really isn't much to do--wearing a mask, when you think about what other people have gone through.

At the time my friend was going through so much, the hospitals were dealing with a large amount of Covid patients. This was after vaccinations were easy to come by.

You are a good person all around.. I think all painters, miners and fireman should have the best PPE available as those work as advertised..

 

[ActionJackson]

And I do believe that mask wearing is important right now. It really isn't much to do--wearing a mask, when you think about what other people have gone through.

But wearing a mask is for your own protection only. To prevent the wearer from inhaling virulent particles. It’s not designed to filter air exhaled from a human. NIOSH only tests respirators (masks) for inhalation protection. Masks are not tested or approved to filter exhaled air. You act as if wearing a mask is done to protect others, and people who don’t wear masks have become threatening in your eyes - thus the mandates , the arguments, the civil struggle that’s ensued. It’s placed everyone on the irrational far sides of a stupid argument. Sadly, that’s why this pandemic will live on and on in America.

Where I live about 99% of the people wear a mask everywhere- simply to protect themselves. Voluntarily. No mandates. And even though we’re mostly vaxed (91% of eligibles) , voluntarily at that, people still get Covid.

 

[DavidRvR]

Can you tell me the size of the virus?

 

[DavidRvR]

Let me be a little more Specific.. I say Masks dont work but I probably should explain why... Aerosol spray (coughing and hacking) wont be stopped by a paper or cloth mask... They will be stopped by a respirator ...

I painted for a living and I have a dust mask (which a lot of people wear now) to stop from breathing most of the particles and I had a respirator for lacquer and oil based paints... Trust me there is a difference... Do a test and try a dust mask and spray some lacquer thinner in the air for 5 min and breath regularly... You will get high as a kite in 5 min...

Then try a respirator and do the same thing on a different day or a couple hours later when your not high as a kite... Then tell me they work to keep a virus out...

After wearing the mask and painting (particles are way larger than this virus) I would blow my nose when done and paint would come out .... Its a basic test and I would suggest one try it and come back and tell me the opposite of what I experienced for 10 years..

But one caveat to the mask is it helped with peoples bad breath... that I can attest to and one more thing... Some were better looking with them on..

 

[ActionJackson]

I painted for a living and I have a dust mask (which a lot of people wear now) to stop from breathing most of the particles and I had a respirator for lacquer and oil based paints... Trust me there is a difference... Do a test and try a dust mask and spray some lacquer thinner in the air for 5 min and breath regularly... You will get high as a kite in 5 min...

You were wearing the wrong mask then. There is a specific mask for chemical vapor like high VOC paints and lacquers. Particulate respirators work against Covid because they entrap the moisture that the virus rides on. It actually attaches to the filter material because of electrical charge.

You’re on the irrational side of the argument as much as those advocating and mandating masks to prevent people from spreading the virus.

That’s my exact point.

 

[DavidRvR]

Not irrational at all... Pretty sure Masked never worked until they did.. Surely the cloth home made one work as good as you are saying also? Doubtful.. If I can smell my gas when I pass it I am sure I am smelling some corona also.

How could it be in the beginning of the pandemic they said masks didnt work? Then after they wanted to push some rules they said they did.. maybe she has it wrong also.. science says... they say follow the science and when it confirms the opposite they say follow anyways. To many mixed signals
What does Bill Maher have to say on this..a liberal through and through but at least they have at least a conversation on the topic... even though they dont agree..

 

[DavidRvR]

I did find this if it helps

Does Wearing a Mask Prevent the Flu?

Learn when masks can help and what other hygiene measures to take for prevention.

www.healthline.com

It’s important to know that a cloth face mask doesn’t offer the same level of protection as surgical face masks or respirators. However, when worn by the public at large, they can still help reduce the community spread of viruses.

So many variables .. Same mask everyday to every week.. folded with the same hands that touched everything else you came into contact with that day.. So everything you touched is transferred to the mask when you put it on and remove it.. people dont wash there hands like doctors before or after so its a waste of time if not done correctly...

Surgical face masks​

Surgical face masks are fairly loose-fitting, disposable masks approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use as medical devices. Doctors, dentists, and nurses often wear them while treating patients.

These masks prevent large droplets of bodily fluids that may contain viruses or other germs from escaping via the nose and mouth. They also protect against splashes and sprays from other people, such as those from sneezes and coughs.

Droplets.. not the virus particles but I can see droplets.. So much going on.. unless trained and retrained.. its never going to work.

Kinda my point .. Just the long way to say it I guess

Cold and Flu

How to recognize the symptoms of cold and flu, which treatments work best, and advice on staying healthy during cold and flu season.

www.webmd.com

Do Face Masks Work Against Swine Flu?​

• There's limited evidence -- but no proof -- that face masks offer some protection against H1NI swine flu.
• One study shows that when there's a sick family member in the house, other family members could cut their risk of getting sick by 60% to 80% by using face masks consistently and correctly -- in combination with frequent hand washing and avoiding close contact with the sick person.

Never happens ..

Looked up swine flu as its older and a flu particle is a flu particle.. I would assume.

• Studies consistently show that most people in household and community settings don't use face masks consistently or correctly.

 

[ActionJackson]

I did find this if it helps

Does Wearing a Mask Prevent the Flu?

Learn when masks can help and what other hygiene measures to take for prevention.

www.healthline.com

It’s important to know that a cloth face mask doesn’t offer the same level of protection as surgical face masks or respirators. However, when worn by the public at large, they can still help reduce the community spread of viruses.

So many variables .. Same mask everyday to every week.. folded with the same hands that touched everything else you came into contact with that day.. So everything you touched is transferred to the mask when you put it on and remove it.. people dont wash there hands like doctors before or after so its a waste of time if not done correctly...

Surgical face masks​

Surgical face masks are fairly loose-fitting, disposable masks approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use as medical devices. Doctors, dentists, and nurses often wear them while treating patients.

These masks prevent large droplets of bodily fluids that may contain viruses or other germs from escaping via the nose and mouth. They also protect against splashes and sprays from other people, such as those from sneezes and coughs.

Droplets.. not the virus particles but I can see droplets.. So much going on.. unless trained and retrained.. its never going to work.

Kinda my point .. Just the long way to say it I guess

Cold and Flu

How to recognize the symptoms of cold and flu, which treatments work best, and advice on staying healthy during cold and flu season.

www.webmd.com

Do Face Masks Work Against Swine Flu?​

• There's limited evidence -- but no proof -- that face masks offer some protection against H1NI swine flu.
• One study shows that when there's a sick family member in the house, other family members could cut their risk of getting sick by 60% to 80% by using face masks consistently and correctly -- in combination with frequent hand washing and avoiding close contact with the sick person.

Never happens ..

Looked up swine flu as its older and a flu particle is a flu particle.. I would assume.

• Studies consistently show that most people in household and community settings don't use face masks consistently or correctly.

To be honest with you I don’t listen to Americans at all about anything Covid. Simply because they don’t have a very good track record. Like I said in my previous posts it’s a real sh*tshow over there. It’s like you’re *all* high on some Us versus Them koolaid. It’s doomed. Kaput. As long as I receive my retirement benefits I’m fine with it. I’m not left, right, or center. I’m above it all. And I’ve been flying high for over 48 years!

 

[ActionJackson]

Stop it with your American vs Koolaid.
Watching the 2nd NFL game 50k capacity stadium is near full capacity. Bengals Won tigers !!!!!!

Rome it sounds like your bud bag is now below the 1/2 mark. You’d better move from rolled to bong to preserve stocks until you’re replenished…

 

[Handlebars]

How deaths are over-reported 10X in fake health dept stats....even the leftiest lefties are finding out

 

[ActionJackson]

How deaths are over-reported 10X in fake health dept stats....even the leftiest lefties are finding out

Yo man you’re leaning pretty hard on the irrational side if you believe that.

 

[BlackHand]

Does anyone have anything on topic to post?