Rear Wheel Removal Tip

[GMA52]

It is my understanding that Folding tire beads can fold without damaging the bead but the ones I purchased are not Folding tire beads.

 

[GMA52]

Well told ya I seem to always get then negative end of the stick. They told me” We have sold a 1000 of those tires and no one but you have complained. Take it to a bike shock and have them install it. I called nearest one and they say they only worked on their brand bike others are 20 miles from me.
He has not responded afterwards.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Well told ya I seem to always get then negative end of the stick. They told me” We have sold a 1000 of those tires and no one but you have complained. Take it to a bike shock and have them install it. I called nearest one and they say they only worked on their brand bike others are 20 miles from me.
He has not responded afterwards.

Well like I said... Folding a tire for shipment is somewhat common.
Get it nice and warm... Sunny windowsill, boiler room, even a blow dryer.. etc... And massage it back to shape.
Don't be in a rush and use a mild soap, I use diluted Simple Green and lube the bead to help seat it. If you have an air compressor it makes things a bit easier. If the bead still doesn't seat, keep it wet with soap and bounce the tire on the floor a few times. You can over inflate it briefly to force it too.

 

[PedalUma]

PITA

When I encounter that I use humas a tabouli. Works like a charm. Maybe with some baba ghanoush too. I dressed as pita for Halloween.

All my tires came folded over and then folded over again (¼'s), then taped up and shipped.

I managed to get them all installed.
All the tires are wire bead.
You'd think that the wire beads would break being bent over backwards twice, but no ??
They all installed nicely.
(after a lot of effort.)

They must have been Kevlar beads. A few weeks ago a guy purchased new tires for me to install but one was missing 20% of the bead on one side. I documented it and they just sent him two new tires with no pushback.

 

[GMA52]

Humas a tobouli and baba ghanoush. Now I am upset I never thought of those. LOL Thanks but what about giborish cabuli?

 

[PCeBiker]

They must have been Kevlar beads.

Nope.
Schwalbe Hurricane, and Schwalbe Super Moto-X tires,..

All the tires were folded in half and the tire kinda turns into a figure 8. Then they folded that in half to sorta make two circles.
They didn't fold right up like a Kevlar bead.

The wire beads were bent/kinked in spots, so I bend them backwards a bit to straighten them out.

They were folded up and taped for shipping the same way that my Tannus inserts came in the mail.

 

[GMA52]

Well like I said... Folding a tire for shipment is somewhat common.
Get it nice and warm... Sunny windowsill, boiler room, even a blow dryer.. etc... And massage it back to shape.
Don't be in a rush and use a mild soap, I use diluted Simple Green and lube the bead to help seat it. If you have an air compressor it makes things a bit easier. If the bead still doesn't seat, keep it wet with soap and bounce the tire on the floor a few times. You can over inflate it briefly to force it too.

Are the Kenda tires easy to mount? What are the easiest you have used? Maybe not possible for you to state if you are not using 4” wide Fat Tires. Are Allscape tires any good?

 

[stompandgo]

Every Kenda tire I've mounted has not been difficult to get onto the rim. I almost always have to use tire pliers to get them to seat straight. though.

 

[PedalUma]

On fat tires, I will pump to 5 psi. Then check the bead on both sides. If one section is in too far in I pinch the opposite side and hang it at the top with the too far in side down. That pulls that top section out and pulls the opposite side, say at the valve, in. Make the bead even all the way around. Pump a little more and check again.

 

[GMA52]

Every Kenda tire I've mounted has not been difficult to get onto the rim. I almost always have to use tire pliers to get them to seat straight. though.

Is that by squeezing the sidewalls on the outside or pulling on the sidewall. Sorry, I have not done this before (with any success on the 1 recent one).

Update: disregard, I looked tired pliers up and now understand

 

[PedalUma]

Is that by squeezing the sidewalls on the outside or pulling on the sidewall. Sorry, I have not done this before (with any success on the 1 recent one).

Update: disregard, I looked tired pliers up and now understand

You can also lay the wheel down at 5 psi and lever the side opposite of the one that is too far in, working the slack around toward the lever, both left and right, so the bead evens out all the way around on both the disc side and the drive side.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Are the Kenda tires easy to mount? What are the easiest you have used? Maybe not possible for you to state if you are not using 4” wide Fat Tires. Are Allscape tires any good?

I found Kenda reasonably easy... But the easiest by far have been my current Schwalbe Al Grounders 27.5 x 2.6. I didn't need to use tools at all.
I've found a little soap and if you have a compressor makes setting beads a non issue. It's OK to briefly go 10 - 15 psi over max rating to do so
This said... I have zero experience with fat tires

 

[GMA52]

I found Kenda reasonably easy... But the easiest by far have been my current Schwalbe Al Grounders 27.5 x 2.6. I didn't need to use tools at all.
I've found a little soap and if you have a compressor makes setting beads a non issue. It's OK to briefly go 10 - 15 psi over max rating to do so
This said... I have zero experience with fat tires

I used soap. I would not do tubeless at this time as I do not have a compressor to provide enough air to force the bead to seal.

 

[GMA52]

Gionirocket, how would you rate Kenda to Schwalbe (not considering the ease of installing) as to ride, issues, etc?

 

[Gionnirocket]

I used soap. I would not do tubeless at this time as I do not have a compressor to provide enough air to force the bead to seal.

I'm tubed

Gionirocket, how would you rate Kenda to Schwalbe (not considering the ease of installing) as to ride, issues, etc?

That's hard to compare as different tread and use play a big part.
That said if I had to choose I'd lean Schwalbe
It's like on a car... What's better Michelin or Goodyear? Many times it comes down to the type of car and how you want to drive it.

 

[PedalUma]

Four inch wide tires require tubes. Rims can be crotched or crotchless. If the tube goes on top its called a tube-top. So what if you go without a tube-top and crotchless at the sametime?

 

[GMA52]

Gionirocket, I understand. Good Analogy. I had just read the comparison with Michelin and Kenda for cars and said basically same thing.

Pedaluma, I do not understand Crotched tires. Never seen one. What is the deal with that?

 

[PCeBiker]

The rim cross section has a dedent in the middle.
You can pull the bead into it to give you room on the opposite side of the rim to pull the bead over the rim.

 

[GMA52]

What is that “hump” in the tire. Looks like a partition of some kind

 

[PedalUma]

What is that “hump” in the tire. Looks like a partition of some kind

@PCeBiker knows. Those rims are tight and precise. Most pedal race bikes have them with carbon rims and $2,000 wheel sets. You push the tire edge bead into the center to give wiggle room to take it on or off. The center indent allows for this. You do one side, say the disc side first, flip and do the other. Pumping it will make it loudly pop as it locks the tire's bead in to the hook or crotch. The hump helps the bead stay to one side or the other as you work it. It is a channel.