Pinarello

Jeremy McCreary said:
Beautiful! Which Nytro is it again?

More aero than my Vado SL 1 5.0 EQ and ~3 lb lighter with roughly 25% more power and torque, but otherwise somewhat similar externally. Eager to hear how it rides.
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It is the Nytro E5 Allroad - Shimano Deore. It is based on the Grevil E5 gravel frame. I won't be riding it significantly anytime soon as I just got inundated with race work.
 
BlackHand said:
Looks great! I guess the remote is an add on? Does it wire to the drive unit or to the controller on the top tube?

The chainring looks like maybe a 38? I get the feeling that might be a little small for your riding conditions and style...

Weight seems pretty good considering the frame/fork are the only carbon components. Lots of flexibility if you decide to go weight weenie on it later on.
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The remote is a TQ option, as you can do everything from the display on the top tube. It connects directly to a port on the display, and is wired. This is one place where Bosch is ahead of TQ, as the Bosch mini remote is Bluetooth.

The chainring is a 38, and I knew that before purchase. If I run out of cassette, the chainring is an FSA Megatooth. There looks to be room for at least a 44T. I'll have to check QBP as they are the US dealer portal for TQ. I'm planning on going Di2 at some point.
 
Jeremy McCreary said:
Like all zealots, weight weenies need no rational justification for the $$$/gram they spend.

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With this kind of topography, they'd really only be chasing more nimble handling. But there's definitely something to be said for a nimble bike.
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It's not even hilly by any stretch, but it is rolling. When you get out to the Outer Cape, you're riding over dunes.
 
stompandgo said:
The picture is deceptive. The fenders attach to the frame via the rack at the rear, the seat stays at the "brake bridge", and at the bottom of the seat tube near the bottom bracket. The fenders and rack are SKS. The rack is aluminum and the fenders are that SKS plastic/aluminum sandwich material.

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The tires are Vittoria Radonneur 700x40. I'm with ya with the reflective sidewalls, but most city bikes come with them. The flash lit them up, so they are not as garish as they look, but my next pair will probably be blackwall.
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So, tell me if I've got this right, Chris… The forward-facing part of the rack is attached to the fender through some sort of plastic grommet (on the fender), and the fender itself is secured at the brake bridge and down by the bottom bracket.

Probably won’t use the rack much, right? That just doesn’t seem like a great way to anchor it. Only because the fender is not metal. Just my thoughts. :)

Fair enough on the tires.

The bike looks really cool. Good luck!!!
 
The rack is attached to the frame with four bolts, two at the brake bridge and two on the end of the seat stays. The rack is solid and a structural extension of the frame. The fender is attached to the rack at three places. The fenders have metal inside.
 
stompandgo said:
The rack is attached to the frame with four bolts, two at the brake bridge and two on the end of the seat stays. The rack is solid and a structural extension of the frame. The fender is attached to the rack at three places. The fenders have metal inside.
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Thanks, Chris. I think it’s just terminology that confused me. As long as there is metal (not just platic fender) holding that rack in place it should work. Cool. My fenders on my bike have no metal in them and are not integrated with the rack and they attach independently of the rack. The Pinarello is a much more elegant design.

Hope you get to ride it soon!!!!! :)
 
Deore 11 speed rear derailleur 1x, 38T front, Deore XT 11-42 cassette. I'm going to try and get out on it on Tuesday for a short run before I head up for stage race weekend. There is no doubt in my mind that I'll be going Di2 at some point, but it might be sooner rather than later, as the shop has a takeoff XT set. The Allroad comes with the TQ Smart Box, which is a TQ connectivity box for lights, Di2, AXS, and other accessories. The Supernova head and tail lights are hardwired into one of the ports. To connect Di2, I'll need the TQ Di2 cable, the Shimano CAN adapter, and some length of EW-300 E-Tube wire to connect to the rear derailleur. Then it becomes whether I'll go 11 speed or 12 speed. Both systems can connect to a wireless shifter. That would end up as the rear derailleur powered off of the main/extended battery, and the shifter with two coin batteries. Going 12 speed means a new cassette and chain as well. I need to take a few long rides before deciding on gearing. The TQ is such a different animal than the Bosch Performance Speed. I expect it to ride completely differently.

I plan to ride it everywhere that I rode the Tesoro, and then some. I won't know about range for a bit.
 
stompandgo said:
Deore 11 speed rear derailleur 1x, 38T front, Deore XT 11-42 cassette. I'm going to try and get out on it on Tuesday for a short run before I head up for stage race weekend. There is no doubt in my mind that I'll be going Di2 at some point, but it might be sooner rather than later, as the shop has a takeoff XT set. The Allroad comes with the TQ Smart Box, which is a TQ connectivity box for lights, Di2, AXS, and other accessories. The Supernova head and tail lights are hardwired into one of the ports. To connect Di2, I'll need the TQ Di2 cable, the Shimano CAN adapter, and some length of EW-300 E-Tube wire to connect to the rear derailleur. Then it becomes whether I'll go 11 speed or 12 speed. Both systems can connect to a wireless shifter. That would end up as the rear derailleur powered off of the main/extended battery, and the shifter with two coin batteries. Going 12 speed means a new cassette and chain as well. I need to take a few long rides before deciding on gearing. The TQ is such a different animal than the Bosch Performance Speed. I expect it to ride completely differently.

I plan to ride it everywhere that I rode the Tesoro, and then some. I won't know about range for a bit.
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Fun ahead — just add money! Wasn't expecting that bike to come with a 38t chainring.

Drastic differences in our local topographies, of course, but I make good use of all 12 speeds on my SL's 1x, 40 / 11-50 drivetrain. Between that and the SL's assist flexibility (especially with MicroTune), plenty of ways to get cadence dialed in under any conditions.
 
stompandgo said:
I've messaged the Admin to create a Pinarello subforum in the brands section. No response as yet, so this will have to do for now. If one gets created, I'll start a new thread there.

Pinarello e-bikes are called Nytro. Currently, they all use the TQ HPR50 mid drive unit. They offer this line for road and gravel, plus they have a single urban flat bar bike called the E5 Allroad that's based on the Grevil E5 frame. Pinarello has decided to cease distribution of this bike in the US, so they are on closeout. I work for a Pinarello dealer, so I was able to create a package deal, directly with the Pinarello rep, that I could not refuse.

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The package includes one range extender and the TQ service dongle. I'm buying it in the box and I'll do all the assembly myself.
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Never rode one, but I must admit those are the best looking ebikes I've seen. Let us know how it goes if you get some saddle time in before the riding season is over
 
In the process of installing the TQ remote cable, I discovered that whoever built the bike made several mistakes. The TICR cable and hose routing through the headset was done wrong, the expander plug was cranked to the max and not set up in the steerer properly, and there should have been another spacer on top, which is why the expander bolt was cranked to the max. Sigh. Changing the routing means disconnecting and bleeding the brakes. I think I have it good enough for a ride without doing this, so when I return from the race I'll take it for a spin on the trail. I'll order up the Di2, since it will take a few weeks, and fix the routing when I install it, as the shifter cable has to go. The boss at the shop offered to let me do the work there on his dime, which was nice.

I've decided to upgrade to a Shimano Deore XT 12 speed setup:

RD-M8260-12 Deore XT Di2 e-bike rear derailleur (runs off of the main battery through the CAN adapter)
SW-M8250-R Deore XT right side shifter with clamp (two coin batteries)
12 speed cassette (not sure which one yet as I haven't pulled the cassette to see if the freehub is Microspline or HG)
EW-300 Di2 cable for the rear derailleur
KMC X12 chain 136 link
EW-EX310 Shimano CAN adapter (enables the TQ system to talk to and run Di2)
TQ 339296.01 Smartbox to CAN adapter cable (connects the Smartbox to the CAN adapter)

Lots of fun yet to come.
 
I'll chime in with another Pinarello data point. I just got a Nytro e7 road. Fantastic bike. As mentioned, the 25lb weight is for a DuraAce Nytro e9, but my 55cm Ultegra road version weighs 27 lbs with pedals. The weight is what drove me to the Nytro, as I carry my bike up 6 flights of stairs to my office on my commute, and my 38 lb Specialized Turbo Creo SL can get very heavy when loaded with a pannier bag full of clothing and a week's worth of lunches. I got a Tailfin carbon rear rack and use my Ortlieb pannier bag on the Nytro, and it is an awesome commuting machine. I can ride in with assist and get to work without being too sweaty, and take the assist off for the ride home to get a workout.

And the Nytro is fun on the weekends with assist turned off. I'm a long-time steel bike rider, and have found the carbon fiber Nytro to be a delight to ride. The ride is much better than my aluminum Creo, and feels closer in responsiveness to my 30-year old SLX DeRosa that is my go-to bike for weekend rides. The power delivery from the TQ motor is much more natural than the Specialized SL1 motor; it comes on and off almost without notice. I've heard it described as getting a tailwind. In contrast the Specialized motor can jolt when you soft-pedal on a higher setting. And the TQ motor is much quieter than the SL1, I think tire noise is louder than the TQ.

So while the Nytro won't replace my DeRosa for weekend rides, it dominates on the commute and doubles as a great option for weekend rides. I have thought it might make a nice "insurance policy" as I get older and perhaps pick routes that might have been more appropriate for me 30 years ago.
 
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stompandgo said:
Pics or you're lyin :)
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Challenge accepted! We have changed a few things like clipless pedals, phil wood bottom brackets and hubs, and even Ergo-8 index shifting over the years but I still have all the original parts saved.
 

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