Need help with Haibike, M1 spitzing, stealth, optibike, Stromer,focus, or grace e bikes

Your favorite brand of electric bike


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No way will I ride a bike in the park. I stopped running in the park. She tracked a mountain bike for about a mile. I think she was acting protectively. She does not like the smell of rubber. I just love the park. It is getting too dangerous. Talked with a runner to who confronted Her. She howled like the cat in the car commercial.
True, hopefully nobody tries to relocate her or take her to a facility.
 
True, hopefully nobody tries to relocate her or take her to a facility.
No. The cats are totally protected, unless she gets aggressive. She is not interested in people. I know she watches all the humans as they parade by her front door.

The stealth fighter is a fast dirt bike. We are back to Purpose, again. What is your Purpose?
 
Yes. 35 miles per hour on the fighter seems fine. I could imagine how much wind resistance you would achieve already!! the thing that concerns me about stealth is that there are 2 gears. easy and hard. you click the button on the center of the crank. if the battery dies I wonder if it is possible to peddle in easy
Not up any type of hill.
 
No. The cats are totally protected, unless she gets aggressive. She is not interested in people. I know she watches all the humans as they parade by her front door.

The stealth fighter is a fast dirt bike. We are back to Purpose, again. What is your Purpose?
Purpose: Be able to do a roughly 20-25 mile round trip (I can limit the power consumption with the stealth computer, which will give me farther distance if I go about 15mph)
the ability to go on trails, or bike lane (limit to ca legal)
the ability to achieve 30+ mph with full suspension preferred
And fun acceleration so I can preform small jumps.
twist/thumb throttle
Would you say the stealth falls under all these categories? how does the grace hold up in these categories as well?
 
Purpose: Be able to do a roughly 20-25 mile round trip (I can limit the power consumption with the stealth computer, which will give me farther distance if I go about 15mph)
the ability to go on trails, or bike lane (limit to ca legal)
the ability to achieve 30+ mph with full suspension preferred
And fun acceleration so I can preform small jumps.
twist/thumb throttle
Would you say the stealth falls under all these categories? how does the grace hold up in these categories as well?
ClearLy SF. Weak match for Grace.
 
ClearLy SF. Weak match for Grace.
I'm excited for the grace one.15. I may be able to change my riding style if it is worth it. The grace is like an exquisite piece of engineering. The stealth is like an intense powerhouse. quite different viewpoints if you are in the bikelane too. I'm afraid I would get pulled over with a stealth even if it is in ca mode because of the appearance.
 
Purpose: Be able to do a roughly 20-25 mile round trip (I can limit the power consumption with the stealth computer, which will give me farther distance if I go about 15mph)
the ability to go on trails, or bike lane (limit to ca legal)
the ability to achieve 30+ mph with full suspension preferred
And fun acceleration so I can preform small jumps.
twist/thumb throttle
Would you say the stealth falls under all these categories? how does the grace hold up in these categories as well?
3500w / 48V = 70A holy s*it! 30A is generally considered Max for an eBike.
 
I'm excited for the grace one.15. I may be able to change my riding style if it is worth it. The grace is like an exquisite piece of engineering. The stealth is like an intense powerhouse. quite different viewpoints if you are in the bikelane too. I'm afraid I would get pulled over with a stealth even if it is in ca mode because of the appearance.
Actually, I think the Grace One.15 is not really what you want.
 
Something is wrong with SF. My guess is the weight. 3500W should use 76V. I do not get the super high amps.
Well, maybe they really don't need the volts. think about it. this bike is already a powerhouse on 48 volts. The best way to feed all that power would be through amps.
 
Actually, I think the Grace One.15 is not really what you want.
Well, maybe they really don't need the volts. think about it. this bike is already a powerhouse on 48 volts. The best way to feed all that power would be through amps.
yes, but very unusual. I think you should choose between M1 and SF. I think M1 is a better tradeoff for you. You will not get everything you want. If you are risk-adverse, go with the SF.
 
currently, there aren't really any electric bikes related to stealth. HPC is a poor competitor considering their bag design. total lack of protection and heat dissipation.
 
yes, but very unusual. I think you should choose between M1 and SF. I think M1 is a better tradeoff for you. You will not get everything you want. If you are risk-adverse, go with the SF.
I've seen nothing bad about stealth over the Internet, and I've looked hard. stealth has some of the most buyer posted videos of the bike. I couldn't imagine going 45 miles per hour on a bike that takes around 10 seconds to get there. sadly it doesn't seem smart
 
currently, there aren't really any electric bikes related to stealth. HPC is a poor competitor considering their bag design. total lack of protection and heat dissipation.
Seems like SF has a nice niche. I have issues with energy guzzlers. I cannot relate to SF. Reminds me of SUV.
 
yes, but very unusual. I think you should choose between M1 and SF. I think M1 is a better tradeoff for you. You will not get everything you want. If you are risk-adverse, go with the SF.
Not to disagree with you, but wouldn't the larger risk be the M1? You are getting a European bike with some quite weird specs. Torque and top speed have never been associated in my mind together. when I emailed stealth about their fighter settings, they replied within 20 minutes. They seem like good customer service.
 
I've seen nothing bad about stealth over the Internet, and I've looked hard. stealth has some of the most buyer posted videos of the bike. I couldn't imagine going 45 miles per hour on a bike that takes around 10 seconds to get there. sadly it doesn't seem smart
I cannot argue with that. Cannot go wrong with SF. The design does not resonate with me.

We need to add another category: Bias.

I am very biased towards German design. And very biased against Amps.
 
Seems like SF has a nice niche. I have issues with energy guzzlers. I cannot relate to SF. Reminds me of SUV.
You said you wouldn't want to go over 20 miles per hour earlier in this thread? You can go into the sf computer, and limit the current and speed. This could actually make for a pretty efficient ride. Someone went 76 miles on their bomber since they restricted the current. that bike is much heavier too!
 
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