Need help with Haibike, M1 spitzing, stealth, optibike, Stromer,focus, or grace e bikes

[Mike leroy]

Dunno if you are a salesman or just have too much time on your hands. Over 200 posts since Friday. (I know this post will get buried under your avalanche).

Take a breath, stop posting, read a little!

1. Why don't you ask Kyle, the thread originator, if my posts were helpful or a waste of time?
2. Since Kyle started the thread, should he be the judge, an not you?
3. He is a new member. Are you not concerned that he might think people hang out here for their own self-serving social status?
4. How many of Kyle's questions did you answer ?
5. Obviously, @stevenast and @Brambor are two peas in the same pod. @Cameron Newland and @J.R. also colludes in harassment.
6. You behavior is obviously destructive and irresponsible. New member will flee this site due to petty pecking-order
7. Who died to made you site Administrator, or did you appoint yourself?
8. An advertiser will wonder if EBR is worthwhile.

 

[Mike leroy]

I'm with you on this.

Either

• I'm just getting too old and think this is extreme
• there are people with too much virtual time on their hands
• there is one deranged person under several logins talking to himself

Anyway. It's funny. The fault is most likely at my end so I will work on improving ;-)

The previous post applies to you @Brambor as well as @stevenass

 

[Racingkyle]

Dunno if you are a salesman or just have too much time on your hands. Over 200 posts since Friday. (I know this post will get buried under your avalanche).

Take a breath, stop posting, read a little!

You should understand that this is to help people, not to annoy people. we've talked about most of the bikes around, and come to a fair conclusion.

 

[Racingkyle]

I'm with you on this.

Either

• I'm just getting too old and think this is extreme
• there are people with too much virtual time on their hands
• there is one deranged person under several logins talking to himself

Anyway. It's funny. The fault is most likely at my end so I will work on improving ;-)

This thread is to help people. why don't you appreciate the time invested in this thread to help others

 

[Racingkyle]

The previous post applies to you @Brambor as well as @stevenass

1. Why don't you ask Kyle, the thread originator, if my posts were helpful or a waste of time?
2. Since he started the thread, should he be the judge, an not you?
3. He is a new member. Are you not concerned that he might think people hang out here for their own self-serving social status?
4. How many of Kyle's questions did you answer ?
5. Obviously, @stevenast and @Brambor are two peas in the same pod.
6. You behavior is obviously destructive and irresponsible. New member will flee this site due to petty pecking-order

I appreciate it.

 

[Mike leroy]

I appreciate it.

The same tactic can be found in this posting. I ask for help, but get a bunch of grief: http://electricbikereview.com/commu...ttery-weight-under-70-pounds.1728/#post-18825

 

[Mike leroy]

I learned a great deal by helping you. The exercise helped me better understand my own needs. I need a different bike, which I describe in this post, entitled "How to get the Highest Performance from 50 pounds of Electric Bike".

 

[stevenast]

1. Why don't you ask Kyle, the thread originator, if my posts were helpful or a waste of time?
2. Since Kyle started the thread, should he be the judge, an not you?
3. He is a new member. Are you not concerned that he might think people hang out here for their own self-serving social status?
4. How many of Kyle's questions did you answer ?
5. Obviously, @stevenast and @Brambor are two peas in the same pod. @Cameron Newland and @J.R. also colludes in harassment.
6. You behavior is obviously destructive and irresponsible. New member will flee this site due to petty pecking-order
7. Who died to made you site Administrator, or did you appoint yourself?
8. An advertiser will wonder if EBR is worthwhile.

Interesting ... I ask Kyle to slow down and read some to learn .... and Mike comes back with the replies...

If you are going to bring up the worry of driving off new members, you might want to look at yourself, pouncing on them with spreadsheets and ever-changing reasons why you must wait, and endlessly evaluate, while never riding the item that is the basis of this forum, an ebike.

Keep talking to yourself...

 

[Racingkyle]

Interesting ... I ask Kyle to slow down and read some to learn .... and Mike comes back with the replies...

If you are going to bring up the worry of driving off new members, you might want to look at yourself, pouncing on them with spreadsheets and ever-changing reasons why you must wait, and endlessly evaluate, while never riding the item that is the basis of this forum, an ebike.

Keep talking to yourself...

Actually, Mike helped me a lot. Instead of doing something negative with yor time, go learn a thing or 2 yourself. All you do is try and put others down. You should really enjoy the usefulness of these forums, but I guess you are incapable of that. Possibly because you are so negative. I've posted a lot because it is fun, and I've learned a lot. I've also learned that people like you are not worth the time to help. When you need help, good luck getting someone to help you because you are very disrespectful.

 

[Ann M.]

Everyone, quit the snipping. We each have our own style of communicating and bring much info to the forum, but the focus here is on the ebikes and each rider's experience with their bike -- questions, problems, needs, good times, pictures, etc rather than criticizing the writer. Please remember that.

 

[Cory151]

This thread has become so unproductive I actually now harbor a slight disdain for the M1. My feelings solidified after reading 20 pages of nothingness.

 

[Racingkyle]

This thread has become so unproductive I actually now harbor a slight disdain for the M1. My feelings solidified after reading 20 pages of nothingness.

The M1 is such a good bike. You are trying to make me personally offended by claiming this thread made you dislike a good product. 45 MPH, 120 nm of torque, 60+ miles, and around 58 pounds. Do you really have a reason to dislike the bike? No. You may dislike me, but what's the point? I've been talking to Mike a lot. Also, in the first page I disclaimed that you should skip to page 19. You reading the entire thread wasn't my fault. Also, people have different taste when looking at electric bikes. I chose this one because the performance and technology was impressive. It may not be impressive to you, but that isn't my fault. It also isn't my fault that I made this thread to help others, but also learn myself. If it doesn't help you, I'm sure there are plenty of threads that will. However, this does provide information on one of the best electric bikes around. It also helps people choose a bike if they have the patience to read. I really don't appreciate bad feedback, but I didn't do anything wrong. I disclaimed what page to go to, and the soul purpose of this thread was to gain knowledge for myself and others.

 

[Racingkyle]

Everyone, quit the snipping. We each have our own style of communicating and bring much info to the forum, but the focus here is on the ebikes and each rider's experience with their bike -- questions, problems, needs, good times, pictures, etc rather than criticizing the writer. Please remember that.

Thank you Ann. I find it very sad the time mike and I invested in this thread to get criticized. I know this will help people though, and I hold a great amount of respect for people like you that take a stand. Thank you. Sry much

 

[Cory151]

Im gonna shoot you straight ............I don't know who you are, or who "Mike" is, but if I didn't know better Id say you were a regular jackass.
Your tone smells of somebody trying to make some kind of commision or sale (think greasy used car salesman).
Im all for some type of objective comparison by people who've actually used a product but thats not what this feels like.

Are you or are you not looking to gain in some way by from the information you've laid out here?

 

[Cory151]

Are you or are you not looking to gain in some way by from the information you've laid out here?

 

[Racingkyle]

Im gonna shoot you straight ............I don't know who you are, or who "Mike" is, but if I didn't know better Id say you were a regular jackass.
Your tone smells of somebody trying to make some kind of commision or sale (think greasy used car salesman).
Im all for some type of objective comparison by people who've actually used a product but thats not what this feels like.

Are you or are you not looking to gain in some way by from the information you've laid out here?

Sorry, i have no contact with M1. I wish I could get a commission for selling bikes, trust me, but I dont. I've been very interested in the electric bikes, and I'm one of the people that enjoys talking about my interests. You may not feel the same, but in no way am I a jackass. After all, I've stayed to my own threads and haven't harrassed anyone. You've came onto my thread, and are accusing me of being a sales person and a jackass. It's clear that you are the mean person here. So, what's your goal? Make a fool out of yourself? Just allow yourself the favor to not come onto this thread and harass someone which is only guilty of spending time on this forum.

 

[Cory151]

Sorry, i have no contact with M1. I wish I could get a commission for selling bikes, trust me, but I dont. I've been very interested in the electric bikes, and I'm one of the people that enjoys talking about my interests. You may not feel the same, but in no way am I a jackass. After all, I've stayed to my own threads and haven't harrassed anyone. You've came onto my thread, and are accusing me of being a sales person and a jackass. It's clear that you are the mean person here. So, what's your goal? Make a fool out of yourself? Just allow yourself the favor to not come onto this thread and harass someone which is only guilty of spending time on this forum.

No apology needed, just letting you know that a little OBJECTIVITY can go a long way. Have you seen the latest results of your own poll? The bike your going on and on about currently isn't even in the top three, apparently most readers of this forum have a different opinion that you aren't even discussing.

 

[Racingkyle]

No apology needed, just letting you know that a little OBJECTIVITY can go a long way. Have you seen the latest results of your own poll? The bike your going on and on about currently isn't even in the top three, apparently most readers of this forum have a different opinion that you aren't even discussing.

Yes because M1 isn't big in this area. M1 is a huge company in Europe, but hasn't taken off in the US. But it is clear it will one day because of how good it is