Need help with Haibike, M1 spitzing, stealth, optibike, Stromer,focus, or grace e bikes

Your favorite brand of electric bike


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M1- Fastest, Most Torque, Fairly exciting top speed, off-road capability, lightweight carbon frame, distance
Stealth-Fastest acceleration, most solid frame, off-road capability, very exciting, decent top speed
Grace-pinion drive, belt instead of chain, good price, high quality
 
how does the stealth fighter lose again? it doesn't have as many volts?
Yes, they are all 48V. You get most acceleration Excitement benefit from 76V. You get most top-end speed excitement from 48V. Unless, you want to buy 3 bikes. How many bikes will upu buy ?
 
Stealth draws too many amps. That is way it gets poor distance and top-end. Small motors do not like to guzzle amps. Make them fade fast. Not true high performance.
That makes more sense. It's a very inefficient motor, so therefor the performance comes at a price. Meaning that if I went on a trail, I'd burn through the battery very quickly
 
That makes more sense. It's a very inefficient motor, so therefor the performance comes at a price. Meaning that if I went on a trail, I'd burn through the battery very quickly
Yes. M1 is super efficient. Most motors only have about 20% gear contact. I forget the SPITZING gear contact percentage, but something absurd like 80 or 98% contact. I forget. But true german efficiency. Unheard of elsewhere.
 
Yes. M1 is super efficient. Most motors only have about 20% gear contact. I forget the SPITZING gear contact percentage, but something absurd like 80 or 98% contact. I forget. But true german efficiency. Unheard of elsewhere.
It is quite sad though since I did love the stealth fighter. Made in Australia was quite appealing to me, but Germany just is amazing with mechanics. I'm still looking at the grace. would the M1 be loud since its a mid drive
 
That makes more sense. It's a very inefficient motor, so therefor the performance comes at a price. Meaning that if I went on a trail, I'd burn through the battery very quickly
So, unless SF bumps volts higher next year, I think your 2 best choices are M1 or Grace. I am trying to make objective rules to curb my Bias.
 
It is quite sad though since I did love the stealth fighter. Made in Australia was quite appealing to me, but Germany just is amazing with mechanics. I'm still looking at the grace. would the M1 be loud since its a mid drive
I do not know. Listen to the court's video carefully. http://electricridereview.com My guess is very quiet due to efficient motor. I will watch court's video. Get back to you in after video ends
 
It is quite sad though since I did love the stealth fighter. Made in Australia was quite appealing to me, but Germany just is amazing with mechanics. I'm still looking at the grace. would the M1 be loud since its a mid drive
I think the Spitzing sounds like a sports car. People will get paranoid when they hear you coming. They will fear you running them off the road. Like a police car siren. Whirrerrrrer....
 
I think the Spitzing sounds like a sports car. People will get paranoid when they hear you coming. They will fear you running them off the road. Like a police car siren. Whirrerrrrer....
hahaha I listened too. quite quiet. It was amazing how easily he did the wheelie. Id imagine getting to at least 35 is no problem.
 
hahaha I listened too. quite quiet. It was amazing how easily he did the wheelie. Id imagine getting to at least 35 is no problem.
I hate to admit it but both the Grace and Spitzing are Classic German engineering. I think Risk is the decisive factor. Grace is one of oldest, most reliable companies. M1 is backed by a giant German company, Fritzmier, that specializes in carbon sports equipment. M1 is totally unproven.

Mostly comes down to your willingness to gamble for excitement. Are you a gambling man?
 
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How would the M1 compare to a scooter with a 750 watt motor and a 15/76 gear setup. it has 24 volts, 33 amp hours, lithium ion batteries, and goes 20 mph for 26 miles
 
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