Ghost pedeling or throttle does it matter?

[fooferdoggie]

I have seen plenty of people ghost peddle today one guy was peddling so slow walking would get his heart rate higher. why would you ghost peddle over using the throttle? this is a hub drive of course.

 

[billmeek]

Maybe their ebikes don't have a throttle?

 

[fooferdoggie]

Maybe their ebikes don't have a throttle?

no I think most hub drives do and I see a lot of lectrics and rads with people ghost peddling. this one I don't know what it was. but it was your standard Hub drive bike.

 

[linklemming]

I rarely ghost pedal but find its better and more consistent than using a throttle for longer distances (throttle isnt as easy to control power/speed). This seems to be the case for throttle programmed for power and throttle programmed for speed.

 

[fooferdoggie]

I rarely ghost pedal but find its better and more consistent than using a throttle for longer distances (throttle isnt as easy to control power/speed). This seems to be the case for throttle programmed for power and throttle programmed for speed.

thats what I was thinking. but you pretty much go the speed the pas is set for and no more ghost peddling right?

 

[linklemming]

thats what I was thinking. but you pretty much go the speed the pas is set for and no more ghost peddling right?

That would be the case for speed based PAS (I think, I have all my PAS setups based on power not speed). I typically pedal slow/soft enough to just feel a slight pressure on the pedals (if ghost pedaling).

 

[fooferdoggie]

That would be the case for speed based PAS (I think, I have all my PAS setups based on power not speed). I typically pedal slow/soft enough to just feel a slight pressure on the pedals

I only test road one hub drive realizing they were not for me. this guy was peddling so slow it was almost like he was working at going that slow (G) I love passing such people but this was on a street with a 20mph and residential and I was already doing at least 20 in the rain. I know the street well too.

 

[linklemming]

I only test road one hub drive realizing they were not for me. this guy was peddling so slow it was almost like he was working at going that slow (G) I love passing such people but this was on a street with a 20mph and residential and I was already doing at least 20 in the rain. I know the street well too.

What I described works the same for hub and middrives. I currently have 2 BBSHD cadence based bikes(one used to be a torques sensor hub drive) and 2 Brose motor mid-drives.

I see people doing what you describe all the time, I also see alot of people just using throttle (until you see them, then they ghost pedal)

I ride for exercise, I guess not everyone else does.

 

[fooferdoggie]

What I described works the same for hub and middrives. I currently have 2 BBSHD cadence based bikes(one used to be a torques sensor hub drive) and 2 Brose motor mid-drives.

I see people doing what you describe all the time, I also see alot of people just using throttle (until you see them, then they ghost pedal)

I ride for exercise, I guess not everyone else does.

most of the time if it is a mid drive bike I don't see too many people working much at it. They are as bad of cyclists and other other newbies that came around because of covid. but those people seems to have vanished. Now that rains have started in portland all the lazy riders will vanish. wonder if their batteries will make it over the winter?

 

[DavidRvR]

Throttle or pedaling helps my knees.. I dont ride to really get exercise but I get continual movement and stretching. If I was to force it I wouln not be going very far and hurt way to much.. It would start in my knees and end in my low back.. So I try to do the low impact stuff with the hopes of it getting more involved as I ride. Same for the wife.. When my legs get tired or the knees get sore I do a little throttle to give everything a break.

So instead of staying home and sitting on the couch I Ghost pedal.

 

[Jim53066]

I am new to e-bikeing. I will admit I ghost ride quite often.
I have had a hip replaced, then it dislocated two weeks later. I have the other hip that is giving me problems, and one knee they want to replace, along with spinal stenosis they want to operate on.
I am not on the bike for heavy exercise, I am doing it for mobility reasons, the movement helps keep the legs working, and helps quite a bit with balance. PLUS, it is a reason to get out of the house and breathe.
The next time you see someone ghost pedaling, consider that they could actually want to be able to pedal like they used to.

 

[6zfshdb]

I ghost pedal occasionally when I'm riding my class 2 bike on a class 1 only trail. Tooling along, using throttle only, is a sure sign you're riding a bike that shouldn't be there.

 

[AHicks]

I have seen plenty of people ghost peddle today one guy was peddling so slow walking would get his heart rate higher. why would you ghost peddle over using the throttle? this is a hub drive of course.

Why in the world would/should it matter to you? Are you that judgemental about everything?
Personally, I like the idea the rider isn't sitting on the couch...

 

[fooferdoggie]

Why in the world would/should it matter to you? Are you that judgemental about everything?
Personally, I like the idea the rider isn't sitting on the couch...

I just asked whats the difference calm down.

 

[fooferdoggie]

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I know it's obvious but the difference would be that you would at least be getting some movement, instead of sitting on the saddle almost stationary.

yes but it would be about the same as walking. but I am not asking about exercise I am asking about How the bike is working. How is the throttle better or worsee then ghost pedaling in how the bike works?

 

[AHicks]

yes but it would be about the same as walking. but I am not asking about exercise I am asking about How the bike is working. How is the throttle better or worsee then ghost pedaling in how the bike works?

If you are "ghost pedaling" the throttle is not in play. All of the power is being provided by the PAS. If you are NOT pedaling, the only way to get the bike to move is with the throttle (with fully modulated power depending on throttle position). On all bikes I've ridden (100% throttle equipped) if you ARE pedaling and apply ANY amount of throttle, the motor gets everything available/FULL power, until the throttle is released.

Apologies for misunderstanding your original question....

 

[fooferdoggie]

If you are "ghost pedaling" the throttle is not in play. All of the power is being provided by the PAS. If you are NOT pedaling, the only way to get the bike to move is with the throttle (with fully modulated power depending on throttle position). On all bikes I've ridden (100% throttle equipped) if you ARE pedaling and apply ANY amount of throttle, the motor gets everything available/FULL power, until the throttle is released.

Apologies for misunderstanding your original question....

its ok I am terrible about explaining things. Most of the people see doing it are pretty inexperienced riders. I take it the battery will take the same hit either way since your not putting effort into peddling? maybe they think they will get more range if they are ghost peddling? some of it is they never shift at all they stay in the same gear.

 

[Mike_V]

I have seen plenty of people ghost peddle today one guy was peddling so slow walking would get his heart rate higher. why would you ghost peddle over using the throttle? this is a hub drive of course.

You don't understand? Learn.
He balances on two wheels and selects his own cadence while the PAS regulates selected speed over various terrain.

 

[tomjasz]

The OP is confusing. It reads like you're dissing hub drives. It's damn hard to parse posts without any body language to help sort the intent.
That said, I ALWAYS ghost pedal. I'm not fully able and ghost pedaling keeps my legs moving and is actually restorative as the range of motion improves.

 

[PedalUma]

Is Ghost Peddling is a form of Ghost Marketing?
On a bike such as a Bafang HD mid-drive, a throttle is not needed because the Ghost Pedaling effect is so powerful. With default settings and programing it is almost too powerful for most riders in the lowest power level. This is true even on big cargo bikes with two kids on the back. With these bikes if you want to rocket from a red light just slowly pedal.