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This thread would have been locked long ago on "Bob the Oil Guy".Lmao, first reply should have said "YES" and the thread should have probably ended there but..
This thread would have been locked long ago on "Bob the Oil Guy".Lmao, first reply should have said "YES" and the thread should have probably ended there but..
This thread would have been locked long ago on "Bob the Oil Guy".
Have you actually tested this or is it something you are theorizing about?
You must have a lot of time to do all those oil changes not to say all the oil filters you use. Do you use the cheapest you can find on sale too?
No you're focusing on the wrong thing, which is I'm sure at least partly my own fault for being pissed off at that whole sordid display and doing the stream-of-consciousness thing.i think that’s a really silly comparison.
i guess we just run in different circles. everyone i know who rides a lot captures data in one way or another. the ones who ride hard or for fitness tend to capture more data, and those who ride to explore or wander capture a little less.No you're focusing on the wrong thing, which is I'm sure at least partly my own fault for being pissed off at that whole sordid display and doing the stream-of-consciousness thing.
We can bitch about @Stefan Mikes and his treatment of his data but he is not even close to the only one who does it, nor is he the worst example of the behavior. Maybe on here but not in the world in general. This preoccupation with the supposed validation an unnecessary gadget provides to someone's ego, when used in that way, is the province of the person who wants to be seen and held up by others as a rider. Not the person who simply is one. Thats where the equivalency with the shirts lies. It was an instant identifier of who was for real then as this is now.
Stefan may not be able to ride a bike without using the pedals?
Every 7 year old knows how to ride a bike no-hands, but Stefan can not.
He claims he could as a child, but he needs to PROVE it.
I'm sure his Strava data has his birth records.
I can ride no-hands with my feet off the pedals.
A little girl taught me how.
(I can't do it while airborne though like PDoz.)
Exactly what planet are you on Stefan.So you (or anybody else) cannot prove the throttle e-bikes provide any significant workout. Be ridden by your throttle e-bike then. Or, carry your ass on it.
It is only essential how much time you are spending outdoor actively pedalling. So, for how many hours were you pedalling this year? On how many rides have you been in 2023? The number of miles and elevation gain data are less important but could be helpful, too.Exactly what planet are you on Stefan.
I ride my two throttle equipped ebikes going on about two years now and 6k or so. I get a workout every ride according to my garmin GPS computers (average 110-130HR, 150-200watts human power, 1500 altitude gain, 25 miles). This is the whole purpose of my rides (workout). As I recall thats almost double your output which means my workout is twice as significant as yours.
Just because I have a throttle doesnt mean I use it all the time (I cant believe I even had to say that)
I'm not saying the former. I'm saying the latter. Thats why I'm throwing in qualifiers liketo suggest that simply recording or being interested in data about your own rides makes one less of a rider is silly. however, we are agreed about what it means about someone if they are constantly displaying or crowing about the statistics of their rides, for whatever claimed purpose!
I'd rather give the DHL driver the extra $80 bucks!Let's all pitch in and buy Stefan a Fitbit. Might be just the thing for him. Data, data, data. He'd have a ball posting on the Fitbit forum.![]()
I do not need it. My e-bikes are providing me with all necessary fitness data.Let's all pitch in and buy Stefan a Fitbit. Might be just the thing for him. Data, data, data. He'd have a ball posting on the Fitbit forum.![]()
I'm not saying the former. I'm saying the latter. Thats why I'm throwing in qualifiers like
... the supposed validation an unnecessary gadget provides to someone's ego, when used in that way...
I do believe that modern cyclists have become overly preoccupied with data, but thats a personal preference only. I don't consider the behavior unhealthy or a sign of deeper problems until it is wielded like we're seeing here in this thread.
Regarding this ridiculous fork over the need for data while cycling:
The need for such things... It signals you are in the realm of the dilletante. The poser.
Stephan, you still don't get it so let me shoot it down for you. On you side of the pond the safety blanket is called a walker. On my side of the pond the safety blanket is called a throttle on an e bike.One of the thread participants (Matt?) stated the throttle was a safety blanket for the elderly rides. In the United States for sure. Where I live, the safety blanket is called 'a charged e-bike battery'. Let me give an example of my friend Jerzy who rides a traditional bike of year 2000:
2023
He started riding his bike in 2013 and has never ridden a bicycle before. When he started, he weighed over 130 kg (286 lbs). Now, he weighs 96 kg (211 lb). Oh, yes, Europeans must be another human race
- Number of rides: 120
- Time spent actively pedalling: 360 h 30 min
- Distance ridden: 5,841 km (3,630 mi)
- Elevation gain: 11,268 m (37,000 ft)
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In the Walk Mode?Today I walked an enjoyable 2 hours through the local mtb park.
How many for you our own Little Lord Fauntleroy?So for how many miles have you ridden today?