TForan52
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No, I have no idea what you are talking about . The report is incorrect ?You know what you did, you know what I meant, no need for more
No, I have no idea what you are talking about . The report is incorrect ?You know what you did, you know what I meant, no need for more
Or, get the electric car you need for most of the time, and rent a car for road trips.Even if you have a longer commute, you should still consider an EV over a PHEV. An L2 charger at home will get you back to full before the morning and you won't have to worry about gas or ICE maintenance.
If you're planning on road trips, then I would consider a PHEV or just a high mileage ICE vehicle (although road trips favor larger cars which is counter to good MPG).
I haven't ridden in a Bolt yet but I would consider the EUV over the Leaf today if interior space were similar and the ride was softer than the Y. I default to driving the Leaf over the Y mostly because of the harsh ride.
In your post, you made it sound like GM was just paying people not to sue, with a lot of negative subtext.No, I have no idea what you are talking about . The report is incorrect ?
Worst rated cars. F GM.In your post, you made it sound like GM was just paying people not to sue, with a lot of negative subtext.
GM was actually generous enough to offer a credit to people who bought the car before the price reduction.
As a side condition they asked that people who take that gift would not end up suing them.
If the move is questionable, it is somewhat understandable given the current mentality in this country...
And regarding the battery issue, this was also handled exceptionally well by GM, given there was only a handful of isolated incidents, but they did not hesitate to offer a massive recall to every one of every model year just to be on the safe side.
I see what you did there, you little rascal ! You implied that GM would give you $6000 without signing a waiver to not sue. They won’t. Why the GM cheerleading ? Stock owner? How many GM products have you owned ?In your post, you made it sound like GM was just paying people not to sue, with a lot of negative subtext.
GM was actually generous enough to offer a credit to people who bought the car before the price reduction.
As a side condition they asked that people who take that gift would not end up suing them.
If the move is questionable, it is somewhat understandable given the current mentality in this country...
And regarding the battery issue, this was also handled exceptionally well by GM, given there was only a handful of isolated incidents, but they did not hesitate to offer a massive recall to every one of every model year just to be on the safe side.
You’re reading way too much into it. Camps ? Too funny. Just passing along a little info. Ou must see the humor in a company ,that tells you not to park your EV in the garage, in fear of fire. Run an extension cord out to the street ? It shows this whole EV thing is still in its infancy. Maybe in 10-20 years, it will become practical. For example a Ford truck in the winter pulling a trailer,would have a range of less than 100 miles. Don’t think that’s ready for prime time.I bought my first GM when I converted to electric cars almost 10 years ago, starting with a Volt, then a used Spark, and in the past year a Bolt.
These have been the best purchase I ever made and could not be happier.
I don't specially care about GM, and I am sure they have flaws like most corporations. Other may have had different and bad experiences with GM, and if that is the case, they are entitled to being pissed about it.
But the subject that came up is one I know plenty about being on the first line, and I disagree with the principle of distorting facts to suit one's grievance.
I know this is the new trend this day of a Black and White world where people feel compelled to choose a camp on every subject, then do everything in their power to support that.
If your experience with GM was bad, you can use it to criticize them. no need to bend what is actually not that bad
I’m a long time reader and user of consumer reports. The ratings are pretty ugly. Especially Tesla.You’re reading way too much into it. Camps ? Too funny. Just passing along a little info. Ou must see the humor in a company ,that tells you not to park your EV in the garage, in fear of fire. Run an extension cord out to the street ? It shows this whole EV thing is still in its infancy. Maybe in 10-20 years, it will become practical. For example a Ford truck in the winter pulling a trailer,would have a range of less than 100 miles. Don’t think that’s ready for prime time.
You’re readithe street ? It shows this whole EV thing is still in its infancy. Maybe in 10-20 years, it will become practical. For example a Ford truck in the winter pulling a trailer,would have a range of less than 100 miles. Don’t think that’s ready for prime time.
This!!^^Or, get the electric car you need for most of the time, and rent a car for road trips.
You know what’s weird? I’ve seen dozens (yes really) of Rivians and a handful of Lucid Airs but only one other EUV. And this is in California. The car that always makes my head turn is the Ioniq 5 though.In the ex-urbs of Richmond in the recent 2 months I’ve seen 3 Rivians…or maybe one three times…beautiful
No reason to exaggerate , I live in northern Mi and it’s plenty cold. I can see them for urban use as long as you have garage or access to a quick charging station but does that apply to the Bolt ?If pulling a trailer in the dead of winter is 95% of your uses, absolutely do no opt for an EV pickup. Even then, pre-conditioning the battery negates a lot of the energy loss. And I highly doubt that most of the population are Ice Road Truckers. This is like telling someone who lives in the Bahamas that the only practical jacket option is a down-filled jacket because they might walk into a freezer. American culture tends to overbuy for their needs.
Like a lot of people who live in the suburbs around a metropolis, I commute. So for that 85% use case, I chose an energy efficient vehicle. We still have our humongous AWD Honda Pilot but that will be relegated to hauling duties. If we need to do a road trip that's more than 2 charging stops one-way, we will likely rent a hybrid. But I also know that the infrastructure for EVs will get a lot better in the near future.
Your fingers mistyped - you meant to say the Nissan Ariya will be using CCS for Level 3 quick charging instead of Chademo. It uses the J1772 for normal Level 2 charging (home charging), just as does the Leaf and most other EVs except Tesla.Chademo is being phased out. The upcoming Nissan Ariya will be using J1772. I don’t know that a J1772 to Chademo adapter exists. I bought a J1772 to Tesla adapter for our Bolt for when we are over at my sister’s place since they have a Model Y.
I was fortunate to see for the first time up close a Rivian a few days ago that pulled into the parking lot of our local Home Depot a few cars in front of us. I scouted down the owner in the store and found him in one of the aisles. We had the loveliest half hour conversation about his truck. He gave me and my husband lots of tips, and real world experience, about the truck.In the ex-urbs of Richmond in the recent 2 months I’ve seen 3 Rivians…or maybe one three times…beautiful
No reason to exaggerate , I live in northern Mi and it’s plenty cold. I can see them for urban use as long as you have garage or access to a quick charging station but does that apply to the Bolt ?
When it takes the same time to charge as it does to fill your car, it will work.Oh, I believe you about your climate. I still don't think many folks have a need to haul a trailer daily for long distances. And if you so happen to be a person that requires a vehicle that can tow for hundreds of miles per day, I'll concede that an ICE vehicle will do that job better than an EV.
Yes, the Bolt has one of the slowest DCFC rates currently. It's great for commuting but not great for long road trips. I have done one fast charging session so far from 15% to 80% and that took an hour. Luckily, these fast chargers are at very convenient locations like shopping centers and restaurants where you'd expect to stretch your legs, eat and have a bio-break.
When it takes the same to charge as it does to fill your car, it will work.