Some of these replies remind of the "young chickenhawk" vs 'Foghorn Leghorn" in the old cartoon, the young CH Pointed out to 'Foggy' that he was after all a 'chickenhawk" and it was axiomatic that Foghorn capitulate, of course the old Rooster wasn't going let that upstart get away with that.The point is the inexperinced and uniformed shouldn't try to let their opinions get in the way of reality. The point is," one size doesn't fit all, and we shold not diss those who are willing to try something new.
That was my concern, too, albeit not the biggest (which was range anxiety)....until the day 2 years ago when a windstorm took out the local Grid for 3 days. Not an extensive amount of time, but it was the first time I had really worried how to recharge my car. After a certain amount of panic (but of course) I decided to see how widespread the outages were in my neck of the woods. Turns out it was pretty extensive with about a quarter of the Commonwealth of Virginia in the dark, but not everywhere. And those "not everywhere" places weren't that far from me AND had charging stations. A great sense of relief, to be sure, although I was miffed to not being able to charge at home. The closest "lights still on" was my favorite grocery store in a town 12 miles up the road. The closest "Level 3 fast charging" was 24 miles away, a pay to charge EVgo, as was my Nissan dealership 32 miles away with the free fast Level 3 charge.
"The world ..it is...a-changing. 
Amen" not your Fathers Oldsmobile., surely most Folks here remember that little commercial.That was my concern, too, albeit not the biggest (which was range anxiety)....until the day 2 years ago when a windstorm took out the local Grid for 3 days. Not an extensive amount of time, but it was the first time I had really worried how to recharge my car. After a certain amount of panic (but of course) I decided to see how widespread the outages were in my neck of the woods. Turns out it was pretty extensive with about a quarter of the Commonwealth of Virginia in the dark, but not everywhere. And those "not everywhere" places weren't that far from me AND had charging stations. A great sense of relief, to be sure, although I was miffed to not being able to charge at home. The closest "lights still on" was my favorite grocery store in a town 12 miles up the road. The closest "Level 3 fast charging" was 24 miles away, a pay to charge EVgo, as was my Nissan dealership 32 miles away with the free fast Level 3 charge.
So I went about life as usual. The gas stations in the blackout areas were closed with signs up. No electricity meant they couldn't pump gas. It would appear none had pre-thought about emergencies with a backup generator. They didn't appear bothered by hanging "closed " signs on the pumps, and going home. Fortunately the fire company and EMTs were in the "lights still on" zone, so no worries by them.
I decided I would do a late night shopping trip and plug in my car at the free Level 2 in the grocery store parking lot. I took a good book with me and relaxed for the 2 hours (Level 2 is a mere 7kWh) it took to recharge back to 100%.
I haven't been bothered since.
Now, a hurricane would wreak havoc on more widespread areas, but honestly if the Grid is down, that affects gas stations as well as residences. We have a number of neighbors around us that have the whole house generators that can easily recharge an EV while still running all the electric for the houses. It is easier to truck in a large generator for an emergency station that to try and deliver fuel with all the attending risks. And when fossil fuels are a thing of the past, solar panels will have already long been crowned king for our source of electric power
I agree that it is going to take time for all the nuances involved in the infrastructure to be sorted out and dealt with the most efficient way possible.
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While I agree the disadvantages will slowly be whittled away the biggest long term risk is the finite quantities of minerals needed to fill the supply chain as well as the significant damage the open pit mining will inflict. I recognize batteries are moving away from cobalt but EVs still utilize it in electric motor manufacturing And the US’s major lithium supply sits smack dam in the middle of a nat’l forest land. personally I see hydrogen as a more viable long term solution just now in it’s infancy
I agree that hydrogen is relatively cheap and more easily stored but it takes energy to produce commercially. Burning fossil fuels, biomass or using electricity for electrolysis are the current methods. If you take fossil fuels out of the equation, that leaves biomass and electricity.
Spoiler alert, most commercial H2 is made from NG and it has a host of problems all its own( Hindenburg actually wasnt)
New catalysts for making Hydrogen are making it more economic to produce.
Hydrogen may have been the cause, "GUNCOTTON OR SOMETHING SIMILAR WAS THE BLAZE( SPOILER ALERT H2 FLAME INVISIBLE( JUST BURN THE THE NG no neeed to complicate things-the Navy has done it for quite some time.
I saw a Rivian truck at the golf course yesterday. Did not realize they are 80k and that hard to find. Loved the look though...
I've been seeing them at the Level 3 charging stations. Great place to meet and chat with the owners. Even watched one arrive once and saw it "kneel" for the short stature female owner to alight. Thus far all I've spoken to love their Rivians. Same goes for the Ford Lightening owners I've met. Both trucks are expensive (base price $70k), but still in line with what you'd pay for a diesel truck today with all the bells and whistles. I paid $50k for my 2010 F250 crew cab 13 years ago, new off the lot. From what I gather that $50k is equal to $69k in today's economy. And my truck was a stripped down, nothing fancy, white paint, no frills, designed to work for a living truck Simple am/fm radio, vinyl seats. Big engine, big bed, and sucked down fuel like it was cold beer on a sweltering hot day
Did you order it 4 years ago?
Yup. Rivian originally planned to come out with a maximum range truck first, which is what I wanted. That's what I preordered. Then their plans changed to start their production with a medium range truck, and the "Maxpack" was shoved to the back of the line. I got to watch all the lesser range Rivians appearing on the road, happily driving past me by their smiling owners, while I waited, still driving a pristine but aging diesel F250. Unfortunately, I couldn't justify getting an electric truck with a range less than 400 miles to the charge.
