Deacon Blues
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I believe in the video Dost's business owner said the prices were in US dollars.
I'm also waiting for details on the full suspension model.
I'm also waiting for details on the full suspension model.
Hey TomDav, Tbanks for your input, you're correct, the BBS02 has been around for a long time, I believe it's now on it's 16th version - Bafang continues to develop this successful motor design. In our opinion the motor is a powerful workhorse that has stood the test of time, is incredibly reliable and easy to rebuild - a winner in our books. You are also correct that there are great new mid-drives out there, but again nothing with the power and throttle of the BBS02, and suited to a different set of riders."no mid-drives that have throttle/torque sensing that offer the same power and track record for reliability of the BBS02"
Translation: "we're using a motor nearing the end of its product lifecycle"
Nothing wrong with the BBS02 if you don't want the latest and greatest, but I think without torque sensing a new product launch in 2020 is DOA.
Hey Deacon, thanks for your interest. Yes, the prices are in USD - $2799 for our hardtails. The Fate full suspension will be available later in the spring, our website will be live any day now and you can check for updates or sign up for emails, cheers, DaveI believe in the video Dost's business owner said the prices were in US dollars.
I'm also waiting for details on the full suspension model.
Thanks for the info. I guess soon the website will help me find if your hard tail will be an option for me. Giant offers one for 3,200$ canadian and yours is more. Like often it is about matching our needs/wants with a bike that fills them.Hey Deacon, thanks for your interest. Yes, the prices are in USD - $2799 for our hardtails. The Fate full suspension will be available later in the spring, our website will be live any day now and you can check for updates or sign up for emails, cheers, Dave
I think the Ultra is the latest and it's 2 generations ahead of the BBS02. It has a torque-sensor as well as throttle control. I'm not sure if you can also switch it into just cadence mode. It's a much bigger beefier motor and should be able to handle twice the power at 2000W with maybe 2500-3000 Peak, but probably most companies will not wire it for such power and go for the more conservative 1500-2000W. I'm not sure of the price difference, but it's probably worth it for the serious rider.What is the latest Bafang motor and how is it an improvement over the BBS02?
I've been looking at the Juggernaut too. I really like that they're using the latest Bafang motor, the Ultra, and that their bikes come with Torque, cadence, and a throttle, but the Juggernaut is one heavy bike. The website listed the weight at 70 pounds, but an independant reviewer listed the bike's weight at 82 pounds with the battery and 70 pounds with the battery out.
It depends what you are looking for. For a while i had an Haibike Yamaha system and for 32 kmh the power was there. The 250 watts is just how they name it but the peak power is a lot more. But they are not available now in Canada so i am considering a Giant wich comes with Yamaha. Giant and Trek are without throttle but i do not need one it is up to you, what you prefer. I am kind of hoping for a 49 pounds HT including a 500 Wh battery. I am in Montreal..Yup, the weight is holding me back.... that and the fenders. Ive sent Biktrix a couple emails asking if they can change the fenders, put on thinner tires... maybe even 29s (Road commute) but haven had anyone get back to me yet. I am torn though.... do I really need a throttle. I know I want one but that option alone is whats holding me back from say Trek or Cube. Winter in Canada means I wont be able to test drive for a while but Im curious as to the big brands are using 250 to 350 watt mids.... then I look at the Jugger with that motor and wonder is the $4500 trek under powered or is it simply a different type of motor efficiency.
Unrelated... your handle Deacon Blues.. from the Steely Dan song?
With good sensors we feel like we have throttles under our feet with a Yamaha.I didn't think that I used my throttle that much on my Pedego Ridger, but after I sat down and thought about it for a while I realized, surprisingly, that I use it more than I thought I did.
So, where did I use it:
1. for quick getaways from a stop sign or intersection light.
2. for a quick pass when a burst of speed is needed.
3. trail riding over rough terrain. Here, I'll stand up on the pedals and power over/through obstacles using only the throttle.
I didn't think that I used my throttle that much on my Pedego Ridger, but after I sat down and thought about it for a while I realized, surprisingly, that I use it more than I thought I did.
So, where did I use it:
1. for quick getaways from a stop sign or intersection light.
2. for a quick pass when a burst of speed is needed.
3. trail riding over rough terrain. Here, I'll stand up on the pedals and power over/through obstacles using only the throttle.