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My guess is that is going to very much depend on where in Canada or the US you are talking about.
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My guess is that is going to very much depend on where in Canada or the US you are talking about.
Handlebars
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South Korea is doing a magnificent job in making testing available and safe for everyone. They have little tents set up where 1person at a time enters and it's sprayed and sanitized after the person leaves. The staff admin is behind a shield like in a nuke reactor and takes the swabs through a hole with arm gloves.
Do that instead of killing all small business and stealing all freedoms. It's much cheaper and not insane...Justin Trudeau AND FRIENDS in the other parties who are silent on the continued mishandling.
Our ER doctors and nurses are left in incredible danger in North America and the patients are further endangered too.
Do that instead of killing all small business and stealing all freedoms. It's much cheaper and not insane...Justin Trudeau AND FRIENDS in the other parties who are silent on the continued mishandling.
Our ER doctors and nurses are left in incredible danger in North America and the patients are further endangered too.
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Coronavirus: Trudeau says Canada will offer more help to China if needed - National | Globalnews.ca
Francois-Philippe Champagne says the passenger list is still being compiled but he expects the charter flight to be just about full when it leaves Wuhan within a couple of days.
globalnews.ca
Our own nurse supervisors have needed to scour hardware stores to buy masks and supplies. Doctors scour dollar stores for hand sanitizer. Trudeau sent what we had to China.
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Science says that normal good levels of vitamin D3 protect from the sniffles, bruf.
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Ontario: all non-essential businesses now closed. The giants all good, Walmart Loblaws Safeway etc, Amazon will deliver your goods from China as our small business community is now as good as dead and everyone is out of work after Justin Dressup declares he's had enough. China fantastic, Canada bad.
Insiders on China, where the communists made it an always prison
Insiders on China, where the communists made it an always prison
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Deacon Blues
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March 23rd and flights from China are still arriving in Canada. This makes no sense to me.
Handlebars
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In a span of 5 hours today Canada has seen a 25% increase in positive cases. We're gonna beat Italy. And Justin The Importer says he's had enough; time to crack down on the public.
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That's total bunk from the fake video guy; Toronto is in early death spiral and it is very decidedly a Liberal Trudeau voting block. He's still bringing in people from China who aren't citizens
antboy
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With the death of the foreign-buyer AirBnB condo business, maybe real estate prices will go down to a reasonable level, at least until we're told it's okay to go outside again!
steve mercier
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The more I think about it anything is possible and all bets are off.With the death of the foreign-buyer AirBnB condo business, maybe real estate prices will go down to a reasonable level, at least until we're told it's okay to go outside again!
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One things got nothing to do with the other.
steve mercier
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"When this is all over, we'll be in clover ...we'll go out and spend all of your... Bike Money" Van Morrison
erider_61
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Wrong.....caught you at your own game of accusing others of posting misleading facts. Midnight on Tues will be the closure of non essential businesses. And many small biz like mom and pop variety stores will be open as well (#2 on the list)
And thank god for #4 on the list because without acess to booze and weed us Canucks would certainly not be so polite. If you actually read the list of essential businesses you would maybe be more credible @Handlebars . Fearmongering & lack of credibility now appear to be your approach....
Ontario Newsroom
news.ontario.ca
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I don't look to accuse others of posting misleading information. You're simply wrong -Wrong.....caught you at your own game of accusing others of posting misleading facts. Midnight on Tues will be the closure of non essential businesses. And many small biz like mom and pop variety stores will be open as well (#2 on the list)
And thank god for #4 on the list because without acess to booze and weed us Canucks would certainly not be so polite. If you actually read the list of essential businesses you would maybe be more credible @Handlebars . Fearmongering & lack of credibility now appear to be your approach....
Ontario Newsroom
It's when they DENY and repeat the fakery and lies after being shown what is correct and attack the correction or ignore it and lie some more. Big difference, you may not understand.
You caught nothing on me, except a simple mistake for believing the headlines - you're simply vindictively wanting it. Sucks to be you. This is the type of headline I was seeing
What I posted is what I saw and was correct as far as I knew.
Booze and big weed are not small businesses and you are mistaken if you think you have been polite. One is mainly giant corporate and the other is government and biker gang controlled. Maybe booze and weed is making you this surly and vindictive. Try to quit if you can muster what it takes.
I abandon my mistakes or wrong information immediately if I find out better information.
I thank someone who corrects any error I make.
THANK YOU, erider_61.
That's the difference between an honest person and the other type.
I exposed the fakery and lies, and experts from THEIR OWN SIDE is who I use to show up the lies, but there is no admission when shown the truth as given by their trusted sources. their own experts. Only increased fury.
But you come out against me instead of against the repeated lies being posted or the Canadian starting the anti-Trumpism and indulging in personal smearjob on the forum. I have never been ugly to that character, only friendly...he attacked me personally out of the blue, just as you have.
I do not expect you to remove your role of attacking someone showing up the fakery and lies
I do not expect that you will apologize for posting your own unprovoked and factually wrong smear job about me, or acknowledging that it was Canadian Steve Mercier who started and continued amping up the anti-trump political nonsense and then personal attack. No. I do not expect decent behaviour from you in that regard.
The lock downs of cities in China is inherently going to get medical and political material.Your other brilliant offering that I could find before your attacks on me, was a meme picture of a corona beer and a lime.. lyme disease, so where do you get off with your nonsense, buddy? Do you think your personal attacks and smears is what the thread is for, when you've offered just about nothing on topic at all? Please point to your on-topic offerings on this thread, dear thread saviour, so I may fully appreciate your self-discipline. Thank you.
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Handlebars
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Deacon Blues said:
Thomas said:
Thomas. Why do you do this to yourself?
NY Times:
New York State now has an attack rate similar to that of Italy.
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New York State had a one-day increase of nearly 5,000 cases on Monday, putting the total at 21,689 as of Monday night, with at least 157 deaths. Some 13 percent of people who have tested positive were hospitalized as of Monday, with a quarter of those hospitalized in intensive care."
"In New York City itself, where there have been 13,119 cases in a population of 8.6 million, the attack rate works out to about 1 in 650."
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Handlebars
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Uh huh.
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Handlebars
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Experts were comparing it to flu and dismissing it, like yours did. Flu is largely seasonal in America.
The physiological difference may be in Vit D production from sun exposure and the sociological difference is the getting outdoors more than indoors where infection rages. So it wasn't a terrible thing to go with, at that time. You simply hate the guy to the point where you post ridiculous things. NY is in very deep trouble like Italy is, already. It certainly isn't pro-Trump.
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In other news, estimates coming out of the Wuhan leg of the covid-march suggests that approximately 86% of actual infected were never recorded, for a factor of 7.1 to 1 unrecorded:recorded. it's worth pointing out that this includes computer modelling, and the modelling is heavily influenced by the input data, but that's another story...
science.sciencemag.org
Many virologists have speculated between a 6:1 ratio, all the way up to 20+:1 on the extreme, so the 7.1:1 seems reasonable.
Some were even mentioning in interviews that news outlets shouldn't be reporting the WHO's "3.4%" as it was based entirely on recorded cases, but they were largely drowned out by the latest political mudslinging from all sides, looking for a wedge.
If we apply to the WHO 3.4% mortality rate, the "real" mortality rate of those infected drops to 0.47%.
It's also worth pointing out that Italy has recently come under fire (though not really on the nightly news), because they were essentially being much looser in their definition of a "covid" death. As much 88% of the people who had covid-19 when they died, didn't die OF covid-19, according to a Dr. Ricciardi, an adviser to the Italian ministry of health. There's a number of factors at play here...
www.telegraph.co.uk
The best medical evidence (not political angling from either side) suggests that Covid-19 is still has about 5 to 7 times a REAL mortality rate as an average flu, which IS a bad thing, but certainly not the plot to Contagion either. Voluntary work-from-home behaviour, combined with the closing down of large events/venues like nightclubs/concerts/sporting events made sense.
Toronto was a ghost town last week under this setup. That's fine. The whole goal was (originally) to "flatten the curve", and we were doing it.
We didn't need gov't edicts from any level of government. The only real gathering was on the weekend when people were going out for walks along the waterfront, just like in Vancouver.
Over the weekend, enough people complained about that on social media that it caught the attention of the reactionary mainstream news outlets, which caught the attention of the politicians which led to these new declarations (kind of like how a virus works, eh?).
I'm uncomfortable with the mandatory, because once it becomes mandatory, the temptation is to make it enforceable, by increasingly strict means.
Anyway, that's my rant.
Starting tonight, hugs will be an act of political defiance. or
AAAS
Many virologists have speculated between a 6:1 ratio, all the way up to 20+:1 on the extreme, so the 7.1:1 seems reasonable.
Some were even mentioning in interviews that news outlets shouldn't be reporting the WHO's "3.4%" as it was based entirely on recorded cases, but they were largely drowned out by the latest political mudslinging from all sides, looking for a wedge.
If we apply to the WHO 3.4% mortality rate, the "real" mortality rate of those infected drops to 0.47%.
It's also worth pointing out that Italy has recently come under fire (though not really on the nightly news), because they were essentially being much looser in their definition of a "covid" death. As much 88% of the people who had covid-19 when they died, didn't die OF covid-19, according to a Dr. Ricciardi, an adviser to the Italian ministry of health. There's a number of factors at play here...
Why have so many coronavirus patients died in Italy?
The country's high death toll is due to an ageing population, overstretched health system and the way fatalities are reported
www.telegraph.co.uk
The best medical evidence (not political angling from either side) suggests that Covid-19 is still has about 5 to 7 times a REAL mortality rate as an average flu, which IS a bad thing, but certainly not the plot to Contagion either. Voluntary work-from-home behaviour, combined with the closing down of large events/venues like nightclubs/concerts/sporting events made sense.
Toronto was a ghost town last week under this setup. That's fine. The whole goal was (originally) to "flatten the curve", and we were doing it.
We didn't need gov't edicts from any level of government. The only real gathering was on the weekend when people were going out for walks along the waterfront, just like in Vancouver.
Over the weekend, enough people complained about that on social media that it caught the attention of the reactionary mainstream news outlets, which caught the attention of the politicians which led to these new declarations (kind of like how a virus works, eh?).
I'm uncomfortable with the mandatory, because once it becomes mandatory, the temptation is to make it enforceable, by increasingly strict means.
Anyway, that's my rant.
Starting tonight, hugs will be an act of political defiance.
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All I would venture to say is that the communists are, of course and as per usual, absolutely lying about the numbers
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The lying incompetent fool of a mayor again chastised the citizens, this time for supposedly not doing enough social distancing. It's the very same fool who held an Asian food festival here to counteract his imaginary xenophobia which he needed to berate us for.
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