30 Chinese Cities are on Level 1 lockdown

[Handlebars]

BTW, people, a pair of boxer shorts makes a really well fitting adjustable balaclava, believe it or not. I tried it after watching a twitter video demonstration of how to make it do that. Best lightweight head covering I've tried!
Now the provincial premier is telling everyone in the city to not go to their cottage/farm/bug out places. Makes sense if you're "civic" minded, in order to not spread disease to food growing areas. Personally, I'd be out of here in a minute if I had a cottage.
The governments didn't handle it and still aren't doing what is right, by letting people from infected zones pour into the cities.
Virus doesn't respect borders but these politicians respect their citizens even less. Only one politician originally objected to Mr. Dressup Castro's opportunistic attempt at seizing of total power, and eventually saved us much grief .

 

[Handlebars]

Exactly what EM3ev, Paul Lynch, battery builder suggests. Wear a mask if you must be in public.

Thank you Thomas.
We should keep repeating the message because the "world", the national, the regional, the city health "authorities" have failed us miserably by parroting the fully corrupted W.H.O. and other vested interest parties.
Of course distancing and hand hygiene and sanitizing all surfaces (including shoe soles) after public outings is very important.
BUT...masks work; that's why Canada's Mr. Dressup sent our stock of them to China.

 

[Browneye]

I have to admit, being in any public place, even the grocery store, gives me a creepy feeling. And even at the office.

Doc put me on BP meds and they give me a slightly runny nose. Combine that with seasonal allergies and some dry air coughs, and it's very unnerving. Thankfully I feel great though.
House guests make me really nervous.

We have 5 cases locally, another 5 in the adjacent city, maybe 60k people. Around here one city runs into the other, there's no deliniation from one to the next, But I just don't see how we'll hit their predicted numbers.

Going for a trail ride today.

 

[Alex M]

masks work; that's why Canada's Mr. Dressup sent our stock of them to China.

I stopped seeking a rationale or honesty in anything he says or does. The other day reporters asked Mr. Premier after 14 days of self-isolation - You are doing well, and it's been 14 days, so how much longer will you be staying home? He said that he does what his advisers tell him. Well, staying home is sure safer, no argument here . (There was a valid reason for those 14 days since his wife tested positive, she is well now).

Meanwhile, I did exactly the opposite in February - ordered N95 respirator from Hong Kong (sold online in Canadian London Drugs store). Promptly arrived in 2 weeks.

 

[Alex M]

Em3EV is selling masks now? Wow.

Edit-PS: disposable masks are reusable even if you don't wash it - as long as you put it away for more than +24 hours. This is how long this virus lasts on soft surfaces. 3 days on hard surfaces.

 

[Alex M]

See the video on sanitizing!

... and it will still dissipate by itself in 24 hours without sanitizing the mask. I only go to public places once every 3-4 days to buy groceries, and my mask is sitting happily in a zip-lock bag the rest of the time.

 

[FlatSix911]

No less than a dozen ex-pats living in China suggested I wear a mask whenever in public.

https://youtu.be/kLWBG_fbJR0
https://youtu.be/I0Ae0mjMljs?list=TLPQMjgwMzIwMjBGP7raTIbGhw

Great video on how to safely sanitize and reuse masks... thanks for sharing.

 

[Handlebars]

If you are not a medical professional, the best way to avoid getting sick isn't using a mask (new or reused), but staying at home. If you must go out, homemade cloth masks are an imperfect but better-than-nothing option, as Live Science has reported. However, a mask is much more likely to help you avoid spreading the illness if you are sick than it is to protect you from the illness, as Live Science has also reported.

Sorry, Thomas, but there are great flaws in your report.

Of course staying at home is more protected, but then you need DELIVERIES and soon enough we will hear that the delivery people are infected...of course...they go door to door to door and in elevators...and a smart person can be much much better protected and cautious than your average ubereats or amazon delivery guy in a rush OR the ones who made your Moo Goo Guy Pan or a salad at the restaurant.

Much better than a cloth mask is a 3M Filtrete 1900, 2200, or 2800 electrostatic furnace filter...better filtration than a n95 mask and you can just put a piece of the 3M stuff under a cheap mask or fashion your own mask. For about $30 or less you get about 10' x 2' after the filter is unpleated.

Masks can be designed to protect others, as in surgical masks, or to protect the wearer, like a n95 mask. The n95 mask is what everyone talks about, yet the good ones have ventilation holes that you push the hot air out unfiltered, so it's no protection for others at all.

Live Science is not credible. And the expert they rely on told us what, just a very short time ago?

"When we think about the relative danger of this new coronavirus and influenza, there’s just no comparison," Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and health policy at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, told USA Today. "Coronavirus will be a blip on the horizon in comparison. The risk is trivial."

"Trivial, a blip on the horizon"

Live science, go to your room.

 

[Alex M]

The CDC still does not recommend reusing masks, and the researchers encouraged doctors to follow guidelines in their clinics.

Maybe. But the OSHA says it's alright to reuse N95 respirators (Occupational Safety and Hazard Administration). As long as it "maintains its structural and functional integrity and the filter material is not physically damaged or soiled." Mine is N95, not a surgical mask. Virus doesn't live long outside a live matter, especially on soft surfaces. Can also be sanitized, though doesn't seem necessary in my case with 3-4 days between the uses. Everybody's scenario is different.

Order deliveries if you can. Delivery guys may get infected, but there are much fewer of them than those who stay home (wearing a mask when they go in public). That is, if the majority will listen and stay home as much as they can. In Canada delivery is hardly an option now, you have to put the mask on and go out. Loblaws/Real Superstore in my city stopped delivering or click-n-collect orders several days ago, Safeway don't deliver groceries, other places are either expensive or have none or very little online fresh produce, meat and dairy (and all of them have now problems with delivery or express pickup).

 

[Handlebars]

Virus doesn't live long outside a live matter, espcially on soft surfaces. Can also be sanitized, though doesn't seem necessary in my case with 3-4 days between the uses. Everybody's scenario is different.

Alex, I don't trust very much of what health officials and some doctors and some scientists are saying about this virus. It's not magical, but you hear such widely different things about it. Our health officials only tried to warn or trace people sitting within a very short distance from an infected person on a plane, as if that sick person didn't put their hands on seats as they walked to their seat and they didn't use the washroom either.
I am so sick of these incompetents and deliberate liars. Of course, the Minister is a graphic designer... and that counts a lot more than any amount of experience in the field where some expertise is a good thing. Maybe she was picked for experience in lying. What a goof we have for PM, just pathetic.
Anyway, regarding anything vital, I don't trust much of what is being reported.

BTW, just announced that a cat has been found positive for it.

 

[TMH]

...Wear a mask if you must be in public.

Or even better:

 

[smorgasbord]

However, a mask is much more likely to help you avoid spreading the illness if you are sick than it is to protect you from the illness, as Live Science has also reported.

The real reason is as stated in the article:

If too many people unnecessarily stockpile respirators, a shortage could put the health of medical workers and those who need them at risk, Schaffner said.

If the didn't protect the wearer, then why would medical workers need them?

They were just trying to prevent a run on them. Didn't work.

 

[Handlebars]

The real reason is as stated in the article:

If the didn't protect the wearer, then why would medical workers need them?

They were just trying to prevent a run on them. Didn't work.

And they were lying to cover their own nonfeasance in not preparing in the painfully obvious way necessary for an epidemic.
Eventually every one of them who failed to perform their duty to protect the public by stockpiling, and/or lied to the public to cover butt should be sued by victims and families and de-licensed, if not criminally charged.

 

[Handlebars]

Dr. Faucci should be a lot more direct and start blaming people before they let him go.

Right? You'd think. Yup...Dr. Fauci. And, well, he is after all, very very fond of Dr. Tedros. So, you know, not really blaming, more like slobbering.

 

[Handlebars]

Dr Fauci doesn't even make it to the first page of experts. The one who is undeniably tops in the world, Professor D. Raoult, is still being mistreated defunded ridiculed and media-smeared by the corrupt regimes in France as they aim to show that the possible curative drug doesn't work by testing it on patients who it cannot really help.

Chloroquine


It has to be used EARLY, and only through widespread testing can it be really useful - before the severe symptoms begin...so virtually nobody that is on the infected lists due to bad symptoms will be cured.
They are undermining the research in globalist France.

Communicable Diseases: Worldwide - Expertscape.com

Best hospitals and doctors for Communicable Diseases in the world

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Fauci tries to play it down and slow it down instead of advising to pump big money into it. Test kits need to be acquired in the high millions at all costs. Whoever messed up and approved the US test kit project needs to be fired

Opinion: Trump’s ‘miracle’ COVID-19 drug deserves a chance. It may be all we’ve got

We shouldn’t dismiss chloroquine’s potential as a coronavirus treatment simply because the U.S. President likes its odds

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Alex M]

Sure, I wore them {N95 respirators} for multiple days, but dust and covid 19 are very different.

Virus enters the body with bodily fluids and respiratory droplets, a mechanism similar to dust transmission. I don't recall reports that Covid-19 is truly airborn. i.e. can spread through the air alone - but this is scientifically possible.

Main difference of respirator from surgical mask is that mask allows air circulation not just through the fabric but also around the edges (which is a bad thing), while respirator mostly conveys the breathing through the valve (bad thing too, because it only filters one way, protecting the wearer more than the others). Either one protects the wearer from "most" droplets that virus it attached to. This is how I see it, though I am not a healthcare worker.

The point was that sanitizing of either device can be done by either actual sanitazing or letting it sit for 3 days between the uses, and in the latter case there is no difference in virus dying time whether it's a surgical mask or respirator. This is where the science stands right now, and it may change its view later. Initially they reported that it only lives outside the body for a few hours, then extended it to 24 hours on soft surface and 48 hours on hard surface.

 

[Handlebars]

Officials kept saying to not wear masks and that masks don't work.

All the health officials who propagated the lie should be arrested, removed from office, and if a doctor, medical license should be permanently removed.

Usage of Masks "Flattened" Growth of Coronavirus Cases in Czech Republic

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The growth of coronavirus cases has “flattened” in the Czech Republic ever since the country’s government has made masks compulsory, claimed data scientist Jeremy Howard.


In the Czech Republic, the growth of news is low whereas in other parts of Europe the pandemic is largely out of control. This occurred after the government announced it was compulsory to wear something covering a part of your mouth and nose when leaving your residences – such as a home-made mask or a scarf on March 18.


Howard claimed that “one of the key reasons for the decrease in the growth of the cases is a massive country-wide community initiative to create and wear home-made masks.”



In just 10 days, the country went from no mask usage to nearly 100 percent usage, with nearly all the masks made at home with easily accessible materials, like old t-shirts.


As many as nine people have died from the infection that originated in China.


Howard claimed that in South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan as theses countries are using masks to prevent the spread of the disease. “In South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan there is no lock-down. Yet COVID-19 is being controlled in these countries. How has this happened? One of the key reasons is that mask-wearing in public is ubiquitous and socially expected,” Howard said.

 

[Handlebars]

Here is an examination of the position of one of the big deceitful Canadian officials who is actively opposing masks for the public.

 

[Ebiker01]

I put the n95 in microwave for 15-20sec.
the particle is destroyed.

 

[Browneye]

TLD watch...but got the gist of it in the first 5 minutes.
Government officials in north america are not pushing masks because there aren't enough of them to go around, and would create a panic situation. But slowly everybody is coming around - over the weekend there was a segment from an umbrella maker that has geared up to sew/make 100K masks per week. He gave out his email on live TV, and I've inquired, but my guess is he's inundated with inquires so we'll see.

It is rather evident that the best way to tamp this thing down is for EVERYONE in public to wear a mask.

We have several thousand coming in, orders for 60K from a few days last week, they're coming from China which pisses me off to no end, and suspect, but it is what it is. As soon as we get them each employee with get a dozen of them. The rest are sold to commercial customers.

Chris Martenson's segment from yesterday talked about re-using a mask after placing it in a ziplog bag for 9 days - that is enough time for any virus cells to die so the mask can be worn again. So a dozen masks should keep one wearer supplied for a month or two or so.

Some other interesting revelations over the weekend....
Newt Gingrich was interviewed - he and his wife are stuck in Italy for the time being. He says some years back Chinese entrepreneurs came to northern Italy and bought up some big well known brand names and brought workers from the mainland to make products, so they would be 'made in italy' instead of 'made in china'. The result is there is a large population of chinese nat's and tons of travel back and forth, and Italy not wanting to look bad never shut that down. So they are a hotbed of activity.

Likewise in NY and SF, large Chinese business people and tons of travel, so also two hot spots.

Frankly I don't see how we'll hit the forecast numbers, and that's a good thing. As mentioned upthread, we have 5 cases out of 50K population, and the city next to us is 68K with 6 cases. To get to the 20% infection and 1% deaths, we have a VERY long way to go. I just don't see that happening in the next couple of weeks. That means we are looking at 10K infections and 100 deaths.