AntonioAlfaro
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2023 Trek Domane+
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Just received a TQ notification that an HPR50 firmware update is available.
In typical TQ style, it is a terse note with only hints as to what is being improved. Looking for Trek, established reviewers, or senior members of this forum to elaborate in the near future.
I turned up an earlier notice at :
www.emtbforums.com
This "Ammersee" update seems to amount to little more than some tweaks, focused on the user app convenience rather than on motor performance improvement. Hope there's more to it than that.
In typical TQ style, it is a terse note with only hints as to what is being improved. Looking for Trek, established reviewers, or senior members of this forum to elaborate in the near future.
I turned up an earlier notice at :
Fuel EXe - New hpr 50 firmware - ammersee
Just received an email from tq about a new firmware for the hpr 50 system, see below
www.emtbforums.com
This "Ammersee" update seems to amount to little more than some tweaks, focused on the user app convenience rather than on motor performance improvement. Hope there's more to it than that.
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Very interesting observation about battery capacity and colder temps. I am coming from a Specialized Creo and never tracked battery range as vigilantly as I had with the Domane +, partly because the battery consumption with the Domane is closer to the range where I need to be concerned about emptying it on a long ride as I will be more dependent on higher levels of assist later in the ride. I received the bike in December and in cold weather riding on my 30%/72W default ECO setting, I probably got about 1.1 miles/1%. We have a warming spelling on the East Coast USA and my last 2 rides have been above 60F, and range has dramatically increased to about 1.4 miles/1% which is more comforting. Although I was aware that colder temps reduce the efficient of lithium ion batteries (EV owner also), I did not expect the effect to be as dramatic.
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I would think your best bet is to contact a Trek dealer.
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The trek website has the TQ main battery listed for $749. (US). They show other TQ parts like cables, range extender battery, display, etc. as well. I’ve seen YouTube videos of people removing the motor and battery and it looks pretty straight forward.
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Just saw this - TQ has a new 580Whr battery for the HPR50 motor. It doesn’t sound like it will be a retro fit for the Domane or fuel, but for new bikes. I like that the shape might make for a better looking downtube. It’s hard to tell from the video if the dimensions would allow a smaller downtube or just a different shape. I wonder when (if?) Trek will use it in their Domane+ SLR’s.
On topic: TQ Motor Settings
Many here have been riding TQ HPR50motors for good while, long enough to know what motor settings work best for them on the road. What settings have you settled on?
Mine are broadly rounded:
Eco 100W, 100%, Rapid... Mid 200W ,200%, Gradual... High 300W, 200%, Gradual.
(I would drop Mid to 150% if I could sustain more than 100W, but my heart only tolerates short bursts above that, so I get my maximum sustainable 200W assistance on Mid, and rare sub-minute 250-300W boosts from High.)
What settings have you settled on?
Off topic: Rattling Noise
Posted this on a new Trek thread but no response. It likely means that it's not a problem for other Domane+ riders, but thought it worthwhile to give it a try here.
Rattling noise from inside my Trek Domane+ SLR6 frame, on even slightly rough pavement, is spoiling my rides.
Possible causes include 1) loose internal wire connectors banging against the frame, 2) loose nut or other bit of hardware bouncing around somewhere, or 3) Something else??
Looking for the forum's feedback, particularly on 1). Anyone experience similar rattling noise?
I'm prepared to have a Trek shop remove the motor, battery and headset and have a good look inside the frame, but it would be good to have a better sense of what to target.
Regards and thanks, Rob.
Many here have been riding TQ HPR50motors for good while, long enough to know what motor settings work best for them on the road. What settings have you settled on?
Mine are broadly rounded:
Eco 100W, 100%, Rapid... Mid 200W ,200%, Gradual... High 300W, 200%, Gradual.
(I would drop Mid to 150% if I could sustain more than 100W, but my heart only tolerates short bursts above that, so I get my maximum sustainable 200W assistance on Mid, and rare sub-minute 250-300W boosts from High.)
What settings have you settled on?
Off topic: Rattling Noise
Posted this on a new Trek thread but no response. It likely means that it's not a problem for other Domane+ riders, but thought it worthwhile to give it a try here.
Rattling noise from inside my Trek Domane+ SLR6 frame, on even slightly rough pavement, is spoiling my rides.
Possible causes include 1) loose internal wire connectors banging against the frame, 2) loose nut or other bit of hardware bouncing around somewhere, or 3) Something else??
Looking for the forum's feedback, particularly on 1). Anyone experience similar rattling noise?
I'm prepared to have a Trek shop remove the motor, battery and headset and have a good look inside the frame, but it would be good to have a better sense of what to target.
Regards and thanks, Rob.
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eco: 50% of input, max 100W
mid: 100% of input, max 200W
max: 200% of input, max 300W
As for the rattle, I had one in the top tube. Just needed to remove the one screw at the display, carefully remove the display, and put some mini bubble wrap around the cables and re- assemble. (Tho, I am a former shop mechanic - so maybe bring to your local TREK dealer)
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Thanks.
I also suspected the top tube and had shoved some foam into it, but it didn't help. I may try to do a better job, but don't want to mess up.
I've been looking at the manual. Can you tell me:
a) Can the Smart Box be pulled to the display opening to check its foam pads.
b) What the “tails” accompanying the connectors are for? Safe to pulled on?
c) Anything else in the top tube and head tube to be concerned about?
d) Any other thoughts?
I also suspected the top tube and had shoved some foam into it, but it didn't help. I may try to do a better job, but don't want to mess up.
I've been looking at the manual. Can you tell me:
a) Can the Smart Box be pulled to the display opening to check its foam pads.
b) What the “tails” accompanying the connectors are for? Safe to pulled on?
c) Anything else in the top tube and head tube to be concerned about?
d) Any other thoughts?
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Hi Rob, I'm glad to hear you're active and enjoying cycling. I can't say otherwise. I'm attaching a screenshot of the settings I've been using on my Trek for many miles. I've never had the need to use the HIGH level of assistance, but you never know.
Regarding the noise you're reporting, I must say that on bad roads or gravel, it's normal for internal cables or brake fluid lines to hit the frame and make a loud noise, especially on carbon frames. I've experienced this, and it's normal. But if the noise is constant and on normal roads, don't hesitate to take it to a service center.
Best regards from Costa Rica!
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Thanks Antonio, good to hear from you.
I remember being surprised at your very modest assistance settings back then (to the point of asking why an e-bike). Glad to see you are holding steady.
The noise makes itself heard on average roads on what would otherwise be a quiet part of the ride. It wasn't there initially or I would have complained to Trek. It has gotten on my nerves over the last few months. It . I'm hoping to be able to address it as has Will has done.
I remember being surprised at your very modest assistance settings back then (to the point of asking why an e-bike). Glad to see you are holding steady.
The noise makes itself heard on average roads on what would otherwise be a quiet part of the ride. It wasn't there initially or I would have complained to Trek. It has gotten on my nerves over the last few months. It . I'm hoping to be able to address it as has Will has done.
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The reason I need assistance is that my 71 years of age don't allow me to ride with the youth peloton like I used to without assistance. Thanks to my TREK, I get 100W, which, combined with my 140W, and my weight of 56kg, allows me to still keep up with the peloton. It's crazy, but I enjoy it, and they still accept me.
Perfect reason.
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