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Zelensky was co-opted by the nazi forces >it's idiotic to paint Putin as the nazi.
Nazis are having Zelenski order troops to stand their ground now, when the only outcome seems to be another slaughter of Ukrainian men for very poor reason. Zelenski ran on a platform to unite, but the nazi forces took control of him rather immediately and doomed the population.
 
From ISW, 20 July 2022:

The current Russian offensive may secure limited additional territorial gains in Donbas northeast of the E40 highway but will likely culminate before seizing major populated areas such as Slovyansk or Bakhmut. Russian forces have not made significant advances towards Slovyansk or along the Siversk-Bakhmut salient in the past few weeks and are continuing to degrade their own offensive combat power in localized fights for small and relatively unimportant settlements throughout Donetsk Oblast. Russian troops have notably been attempting to take Siversk since the capture of Lysychansk and the Luhansk Oblast border on July 3 and have still not reached the city as of July 20.[1] Similarly, Russian troops have failed to launch direct assaults on Bakhmut and have largely impaled themselves on fights for small settlements to its east and south. Efforts to advance on Slovyansk have mostly ground to a halt and have made no meaningful gains for weeks. The renewal of active ground offensives following the brief operational pause has not yet translated into meaningful Russian forward progress, although it is possible that either steady Russian pressure or the completion of Russian efforts to rebuild combat power could generate limited gains in the coming days or weeks.

Russian troops are now struggling to move across relatively sparsely-settled and open terrain. They will encounter terrain much more conducive to the Ukrainian defenders the closer they get to the E40 around Slovyansk and Bakhmut due to the increasing population density and built-up nature of these areas (see map in-line with text). The current Russian offensive in Donbas is therefore highly likely to culminate somewhere along the E40 in the coming weeks.https://understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Donetsk Population Map July 20,2022.png
 
The current Russian offensive may secure limited additional territorial gains in Donbas northeast of the E40 highway
It's a mistake to assume that American views of success are the same as Russian views. Russia is quite obviously concerned with removing the forces rather than spreading out over greater and greater areas, so the nazi "Stand and fight to the last Ukrainian" order leads to slow encirclement of the Ukrainian men and their destruction time and time again.
 
In some ways this war was a self-own by the Russians because they export most of their grain through ports that are now unusable due to the war.
That didn't age well.
Germany is now prepping warmup spaces for their citizens that may be without heat this winter. They are being told to take short cool showers, if they must, for under 5 minutes,and to avoid laundering their clothes. Industry is looking at closing down.
In Moscow, though, people with the munchies can't buy reconstituted fries at the new McD clone.
 
I think the big question is how much of an offensive Ukraine is going to be able to put together in the next few weeks. Especially given their recent losses and the operational challenges they will face launching such an offensive.

Honestly a very modest yet successful offensive will likely be the best outcome we can hope for.
 
I think the big question is how much of an offensive Ukraine is going to be able to put together in the next few weeks. Especially given their recent losses and the operational challenges they will face launching such an offensive.

Honestly a very modest yet successful offensive will likely be the best outcome we can hope for.
Yep. Take a town or two and lose a couple thousand more men, and lose the towns. The Russians have already seemingly been able to destroy a HiMARs and possibly have been able to purchase one, and are able to intercept the missiles.
 
I think the big question is how much of an offensive Ukraine is going to be able to put together in the next few weeks. Especially given their recent losses and the operational challenges they will face launching such an offensive.

Honestly a very modest yet successful offensive will likely be the best outcome we can hope for.
Yep, their propaganda ministry said they went on an offensive, took a town, and were looking at an encircled 2000 Russian troops.
One day later......nah, the nazi forces got creamed again.
 
Reports are trickling in from the Kherson region that the bridge over the Inhulets River is impassable and the Antonovskiy Bridge over the Dnipro River is severely damaged and impassable to heavy equipment and trucks.

This makes the resupply of Rushka forces in Kherson problematic, and will make it difficult for them to retreat with all of their equipment.

On another note, I suspect that the temptation for allied countries providing assistance, in particular the US and UK, to "loan" personnel to the Ukrainians is probably overwhelming. Probably a lot of the technical support and maintenance for the M142 and M270 systems recently sent to Ukraine is provided by civilian contractors working for BAE or Northrup Grumman. Chances are that there are also a lot of observers and military attaches from those countries providing assistance and some training on staff work and planning (something the Ukrainians aren't likely to be particularly good at on their own).

It is more likely the UK is doing this on a larger scale than the US, if only because of the likely political firestorm in the US if this got out, or got framed maliciously by nefarious forces in the US.
 
“Our people there are not quite successful and experience a certain lack of strength to close this story,”
“Not everything there is favorable for ours.”
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Arestovich

Always Muley with the fake news
 
Reports are trickling in from the Kherson region that the bridge over the Inhulets River is impassable and the Antonovskiy Bridge over the Dnipro River is severely damaged and impassable to heavy equipment and trucks.

This makes the resupply of Rushka forces in Kherson problematic, and will make it difficult for them to retreat with all of their equipment.
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Looks like the holes could be fairly easily patched or even just covered over
 
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The nazis are again showing the world their colors:
Deputy Prime Minister / Minister of Reintegration of the Temporarily Occupied Territories Iryna Vereshchuk announced this on Telegram, reports Ukrainian News Agency.

"Introduction of criminal liability for obtaining a Russian passport: this is exactly what was discussed today at a closed interdepartmental meeting," she said.

Vereshchuk notes that this issue is not so much a legal one as a political one: on the one hand, the passport of the occupier helps a person to survive in a temporary occupation; on the other hand, Ukrainians stand to the death on the front lines, including ensuring there are never Russians on Ukrainian soil.
 
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