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Nobody outside of Russians or Russian supporters wants to see this war. The suffering and loss of human life is horrible. And, doom and gloom about Ukraine’s outlook is probably the proper long-term expectation. However, there is more to consider than those realities, or the amount of money (weapons) we’re shipping to Ukraine.

Putin’s previous history would convince a common-sense person that he was looking for any excuse to take more territory, and would have done so regardless of NATO’s or the EU’s intentions with regard to Ukraine (those intentions being one of his excuses). And Ukrainian Nazi’s? Hell, I don’t know if that’s entirely BS or not, but even if reality, they certainly weren’t a threat to Russia, and Russia wasn’t asked by the Ukrainian governnent to take them down.

Now, the West cannot allow Russia to simply march to victory, as they won’t stop with Ukraine (maybe for a few years, at best). This being the case, supplying Ukraine with weapons makes sense, as it forces Putin’s army to actually fight, thereby testing his forces and inflicting some amount of attrition upon them, and hopefully slowing them down enough to reconsider pushing beyond Ukraine. Yeah, it sucks for many reasons, but I think complaining about the West’s actions and their impact on our lives is simply whining, misplacing blame, and showing ignorance of geo-political realities……or more propaganda.
 
Just saying, you don't replace your commanding officers if you are winning the war.


The appointment of a separate commander over the Southern Military District, and the replacement of the commander of the SMD in the middle of major combat operations, is a drastic step that would speak to severe crises within the Russian high command, and possibly a purge by the Kremlin. Such drastic rotations within the Russian military, if true, are not actions taken by a force on the verge of a major success and indicate ongoing dysfunction in the Kremlin’s conduct of the war.
 
Stalin purged his generals too…and the Finns kicked his bushy eyebrows
I have a lady friend whose grandfather was an up-and-coming junior officer in the 1930s in the old Soviet Union. He was exiled and demoted. When the Nazis attacked he was reinstated and rose to the rank of Colonel and commanded a regiment in the assault on Berlin, where he was made a Hero of the Soviet Union. After the Nazis surrendered he was again demoted and sent back to Siberia. It wasn't until Stalin died that he was allowed to return home to Kiev.
 
Nobody outside of Russians or Russian supporters wants to see this war. The suffering and loss of human life is horrible. And, doom and gloom about Ukraine’s outlook is probably the proper long-term expectation. However, there is more to consider than those realities, or the amount of money (weapons) we’re shipping to Ukraine.

Putin’s previous history would convince a common-sense person that he was looking for any excuse to take more territory, and would have done so regardless of NATO’s or the EU’s intentions with regard to Ukraine (those intentions being one of his excuses). And Ukrainian Nazi’s? Hell, I don’t know if that’s entirely BS or not, but even if reality, they certainly weren’t a threat to Russia, and Russia wasn’t asked by the Ukrainian governnent to take them down.

Now, the West cannot allow Russia to simply march to victory, as they won’t stop with Ukraine (maybe for a few years, at best). This being the case, supplying Ukraine with weapons makes sense, as it forces Putin’s army to actually fight, thereby testing his forces and inflicting some amount of attrition upon them, and hopefully slowing them down enough to reconsider pushing beyond Ukraine. Yeah, it sucks for many reasons, but I think complaining about the West’s actions and their impact on our lives is simply whining, misplacing blame, and showing ignorance of geo-political realities……or more propaganda.
How would you miss their actual nazi emblems and flags and tattoos, dude? They were waging war and killing the ethnically Russian population in the east for years. They eventually became the masters of the government. The built up fortifications and trenches and places they hole up in were not built this year.
That is how they survived the Russian forces this long. The steel factory underground would have been be a major very long term effort. Now they are holed up in another factory, the chemical factory ... again with women and children. As soon as they receive enough pressure to allow the humanitarian release of the women and children, they will give up. Same game. But now not all of the ready force is nazi, though. It's become more complex as they have many ordinary conscripts now with ten days training.
 
But maybe you missed social media giving permission to break their normal censorship routine and to say nice things about nazis is OK now. That would be a significant "tell" that there were suddenly very very good nice nazis for your consideration and donations.
 
Just saying, you don't replace your commanding officers if you are winning the war.

That is just a propganda think tank. Fluffers for the MIC who bilk the People out of Trillions.
 
Hunter Thompson would have had a field day with these Neo Libs and their geopolitical gangsterism. I was once a Democrat before they went completely off the rails. They have become hideous.
 
An excellent article in the Guardian this morning: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...sks-condemning-ukraine-to-slow-strangulation?

I happen to believe that we must do more, and do it quickly.
Someone doesn't realize that the US would be able to conduct traditional war for 2 to 3 weeks before running out of supplies. The enemies within have effectively neutered American industrial ability, in the only nation in the western world that holds its very existence as a god-given gift. Trudeau announced that Canada is the world's first post-national state. No longer a nation.
Why did his twin Obama, with Joe and Hillary, help in the illegal shipment of a large portion of the uranium supply to Putin?
 
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I happen to believe that we must do more, and do it quickly.

To be fair, the things we are getting to them are getting there remarkably quickly. It is just that you can't just drive a HiMARs off the lot in Germany and drive it to the front and blast away with it. There is a whole supply chain and servicing infrastructure that has to be set up, and even if the Ukrainians are experienced with similar systems, they will likely need weeks of training to be proficient on newer systems. As NATO countries in the old Warsaw Pact run out of Soviet-era parts and equipment, the learning curve for the Ukrainians is going to get much steeper.

There is also some weird stuff going on, as with the M777 howitzers and how the ones from the US had their advanced targeting systems removed but the ones from the UK and Canada did not.

I think the important point is that as of this writing, the Ukrainians haven't received enough of the advanced artillery systems and particular enough ammunition for those systems to make a decisive difference. By some estimates the total number of artillery rounds the Ukrainians have received is approximately how many artillery rounds the Russians are expending in a week.

The Ukrainians are withdrawing from Severodonetsk, and will probably have to quit Lysychansk in the very near future. And still no word for Kherson.
 
The Ukrainians are withdrawing from Severodonetsk,
The pillager of Ukraine, Joe Biden, says:

America is a nation that can be defined in a single word : ASUFUTIMAEHAEHFUTBW


After Joe abandoned Americans and allies in Afghanistan, how do you still imagine this will be different? Why aren't you urging they try to get any Americans who are still alive, back?
 
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"Silence is golden
But my eyes still see
Silence is golden, golden
But my eyes still see"

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Echoes in the dark.. He still responds to things he cant see or hear.. Crazy or insane.. Or maybe both?
 
The trouble with Russia winning or losing is that the Biden admin set the final course immediately upon inauguration, not for WW111, but for nuclear conflagration that GW Bush initiated.
 
The Russian military will soon exhaust its combat capabilities and be forced to bring its offensive in Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region to a grinding halt, according to Western intelligence predictions and military experts.
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“There will come a time when the tiny advances Russia is making become unsustainable in light of the costs and they will need a significant pause to regenerate capability,” said a senior Western official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive issue.
The assessments come despite continued Russian advances against outgunned Ukrainian forces, including the capture on Friday of the town of Severodonetsk, the biggest urban center taken by Russia in the east since launching the latest Donbas offensive nearly three months ago.
The Russians are now closing in on the adjacent city of Lysychansk, on the opposite bank of the Donetsk river. The town’s capture would give Russia almost complete control of the Luhansk oblast, one of two oblasts, or provinces, comprising the Donbas region. Control of Donbas is the publicly declared goal of Russia’s “special military operation,” although the multi-front invasion launched in February made it clear that Moscow’s original ambitions were far broader.

Smoke rises over Severodonetsk during a battle between Russian and Ukrainian forces.
Capturing Lysychansk presents a challenge because it stands on higher ground and the Donetsk river impedes Russian advances from the east. So instead, Russian troops appear intent on encircling the city from the west, pressing southeast from Izyum and northeast from Popasna on the western bank of the river.

According to chatter on Russian Telegram channels and Ukraine’s deputy defense minister, Anna Malyar, the Russian military is under pressure to bring all of Luhansk under Russian control by Sunday, perhaps explaining the heightened momentum of the past week.

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But the “creeping” advances are dependent almost entirely on the expenditure of vast quantities of ammunition, notably artillery shells, which are being fired at a rate almost no military in the world would be able to sustain for long, said the senior Western official.
Russia, meanwhile, is continuing to suffer heavy losses of equipment and men, calling into question how much longer it can remain on the attack, the official said.
Officials refuse to offer a time frame, but British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, citing intelligence assessments, indicated this week that Russia would be able to continue to fight on only for the “next few months.” After that, “Russia could come to a point when there is no longer any forward momentum because it has exhausted its resources,” he told the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung in an interview.

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"They're in hell": Hail of Russian artillery tests Ukrainian morale
Russian commentators are also noting the challenges, emphasizing a chronic shortage of manpower. “Russia does not have enough physical strength in the zone of the special military operation in Ukraine … taking into account the almost one thousand kilometer (or more) line of confrontation,” wrote Russian military blogger Yuri Kotyenok on his Telegram account. He estimated that Russia would need 500,000 troops to attain its goals, which would only be possible with a large-scale mobilization, a potentially risky and unpopular move that President Vladimir Putin has so far refrained from undertaking.

Russian service members leave a mobile recruiting center in St. Petersburg on May 28, 2022. (Anton Vaganov/Reuters)
The Russian onslaught has already outlasted forecasts that Russia’s offensive capabilities would peak by the summer. Aggressive recruitment of contract soldiers and reservists has helped generate as many as 40,000 to 50,000 troops to replenish those lost or incapacitated in the first weeks of the fighting, according to Ukrainian officials. Russia has been hauling ancient tanks out of storage and away from bases across the vast country to throw onto the front lines in Ukraine.

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The Russians still have the advantage over Ukrainian forces, who are suffering, too. Ukrainian officials put the number of their soldiers killed in action at as many as 200 a day. The Ukrainians have also almost entirely run out of the Soviet-era ammunition on which their own weapons systems rely, and they are still in the process of transitioning to Western systems.
Ukraine is running out of ammunition as prospects on the battlefield dim
But conditions for Ukrainian troops are only likely to improve as more sophisticated Western weapons arrive, while those of Russian forces can be expected to deteriorate as they dig deeper into their stocks of old, outdated equipment, said retired Gen. Ben Hodges, a former commander of U.S. forces in Europe who is now with the Center for European Policy Analysis. At some point in the coming months, the Ukrainians will have received enough Western weaponry that it is likely they will be able to go on the counteroffensive and reverse the tide of the war, he said.
“I remain very optimistic that Ukraine is going to win, and that by the end of this year Russia will be driven back to the Feb. 24 line,” he said, referring to the boundaries of Russian-occupied areas in Crimea and Donbas captured during fighting in 2014 and 2015. “Right now it sucks to be on the receiving end of all this Russian artillery. But my assessment is that things are going to be trending in favor of the Ukrainians in the next few weeks.”
Already there are indications that the supply of Western weapons is gathering pace. Newly arrived French Caesar howitzers were videoed in action on the battlefield last week, followed this week by German Panzerhaubitze 2000 howitzers, the first of the heavy weapons promised by Germany to be delivered.

A Ukrainian soldier fires toward Russian positions with a Caesar howitzer in the Donetsk region of Ukraine, June 8, 2022. (Reuters)
The first of the much anticipated U.S. HIMARS systems, which will give the Ukrainians the ability to strike up to 50 miles behind Russian lines, have also been delivered to Ukraine in recent days, according to U.S. officials, though these weapons have not yet been reported in use on the front lines.

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It is difficult to predict the future because so much isn’t known about the conditions and strength of Ukrainian forces, said Mattia Nelles, a German political analyst who studies Ukraine. The Ukrainians have maintained a high level of operational secrecy, making it hard to know, for example, how many troops they still have in the Lysychansk area or the true rate of casualties, he said.
Another unknown is the extent of Russian artillery stocks, which Western intelligence agencies had initially underestimated, the Western official said. Expecting a short war in which Ukrainian forces quickly folded, the Russians made no effort to ramp up production before the invasion, and although they have presumably now done so, their defense industrial complex does not have the capacity to keep up with the “enormous” rate at which Russia is expending artillery shells, the Western official said. “Their supply is not infinite,” he said.
And although Ukrainian forces are having a tough time right now, they do not appear in danger of collapse, said Michael Kofman, director of Russian studies at the Center for Naval Analysis (CNA), speaking to the Silverado Policy Accelerator podcast, Geopolitics Decanted.
The Ukrainians are continuing to harass Russian forces north of the city of Kharkiv and have made limited gains in a small offensive outside the city of Kherson in southern Ukraine, helping divert Russian resources away from the Donbas front.

Members of a team that defuses explosives, bombs and mines remove a defused bomb in Kharkiv.
The minor territorial gains currently being notched by Russia are less significant than the overall balance of power on the battlefield, Kofman said.

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“The most significant part of the war isn’t these geographic points, because now it’s a contest of will but also a material contest, of who is going to run out of equipment and ammunition and their best units first,” he said. “Both of these forces are likely to get exhausted over the summer, and then there will be an operational pause.”
At that point, assuming sufficient quantities of weaponry and ammunition have arrived, the hope is that Ukraine will be able to go on the counteroffensive and start rolling Russian troops back, Ukrainian officials have said.
If not, both sides will dig in to defend their positions, and a stalemate will ensue, barring the unlikely prospect of a diplomatic breakthrough, the Western official said.
“You’ll have two sides not seeking territorial advantage but on operational pause, focused on resupplying and relieving the front line, at which point you are into a protracted conflict,” he said.

War in Ukraine: What you need to know​

The latest: Ukrainian forces will have to be withdrawn from the besieged city of Severodonetsk, which had been the largest city in the Luhansk region still under partial Ukrainian control, according to the regional governor. The outcome is a symbolic and territorial victory for Moscow.
The fight: A slowly regenerating Russian army is making incremental gains in eastern Ukraine against valiant but underequipped Ukrainian forces. The United States and its allies are racing to deliver the enormous quantities of weaponry the Ukrainians urgently need if they are to hold the Russians at bay.
The weapons: Ukraine is making use of weapons such as Javelin antitank missilesand Switchblade “kamikaze” drones, provided by the United States and other allies. Russia has used an array of weapons against Ukraine, some of which have drawn the attention and concern of analysts.
Photos: Post photographers have been on the ground from the very beginning of the war — here’s some of their most powerful work.
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