Wanted: Lightweight (less than 20kg), high Torque (90NM), Motor offering large amount of power 500w+, removable large battery

[Aneesa Chaudhry]

This is the truth ... a pink unicorn. The EBR community has offered over a dozen choices so far...

I know. Compromises need to be made and it's a case of working through them. Thanks FlatSix911

 

[Aneesa Chaudhry]

I don't think so. You could get lightweight MTB mudguards but forget about the rear rack (dropper seat post and long-travel full suspension make it almost impossible). Additionally, removing the battery in the Levo is not that simple (you use an Allen key to unlock the battery from the bottom). As perfect as the Levo is, it is not a commuter bike.

I'd may recommend waiting for the Vado SL when it becomes available for the demo ride. It meets your criteria of weight and commuter equipment. The battery is not removable but given the bike's weight it poses no problem. The price is very attractive. The point you contest is relatively small torque figure and relatively small battery. Yet you don't know how this e-bike really behaves before you have tried it out yourself.

I had no patience to read the whole thread but I wonder how really steep your hills are and for what distance. I don't know how fit your legs are. Still, you might be positively surprised, especially as the Vado SL has the 1x12 drive-train meant the motor and the driver complement each other and contribute with the power. The extender "bottle" battery is readily removable.

Perhaps that's the only choice for you.

Thanks Stefan. I recorded my last 2 ebike test rides on strava (aneesa chaudhry) which show the hills I have to go up. I've been ringing around to see if I can trial a Vado SL but not been lucky yet. I'm also going to look at the Bianchi and need to see if there is a flat handle bar version of the 16kg ish bike. If not, that's an area I may have to compromise in.

I don't think so. You could get lightweight MTB mudguards but forget about the rear rack (dropper seat post and long-travel full suspension make it almost impossible). Additionally, removing the battery in the Levo is not that simple (you use an Allen key to unlock the battery from the bottom). As perfect as the Levo is, it is not a commuter bike.

I'd may recommend waiting for the Vado SL when it becomes available for the demo ride. It meets your criteria of weight and commuter equipment. The battery is not removable but given the bike's weight it poses no problem. The price is very attractive. The point you contest is relatively small torque figure and relatively small battery. Yet you don't know how this e-bike really behaves before you have tried it out yourself.

I had no patience to read the whole thread but I wonder how really steep your hills are and for what distance. I don't know how fit your legs are. Still, you might be positively surprised, especially as the Vado SL has the 1x12 drive-train meant the motor and the driver complement each other and contribute with the power. The extender "bottle" battery is readily removable.

Perhaps that's the only choice for you.

Thanks Stefan. I recorded my last 2 ebike test rides on strava (aneesa chaudhry) which show the hills I have to go up. I've been ringing around to see if I can trial a Vado SL but not been lucky yet. I'm also going to look at the Bianchi and need to see if there is a flat handle bar version of the 16kg ish bike. If not, that's an area I may have to compromise in.

 

[Aneesa Chaudhry]

This might be another one for the list: https://ebiketips.road.cc/content/reviews/electric-road-bikes/bianchi-impulso-e-road-1665

It may exceed your budget but all other boxes are ticked: motor rivals a Bosch Performance, 500W battery, 16kg total weight, can take a rack and fenders.

Thanks for this pmcdonald. Do you think it would work to ask a local bike shop to put flat handle bars on this bike? I've written to ask them what the weight is without the battery. I'm trying to find somewhere I can try both the Bianchi and Specialised Vado SL.

 

[FlatSix911]

Thanks for this pmcdonald. Do you think it would work to ask a local bike shop to put flat handle bars on this bike?
I've written to ask them what the weight is without the battery. I'm trying to find somewhere I can try both the Bianchi and Specialised Vado SL.

If you are willing to swap road bars to flat bars, the S-Electro may be a lightweight option for you... one reviewer claims it weighs under 30lbs/13.6 kg.

The S-Electro GR - Gravel e-bike | Silverback Bikes

With its roots in gravel, the S-Electro GR encourages exploration without reservation. Going further and doing more, is not a question of if, but when.

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[Deacon Blues]

Here's another possibility: https://www.yamahabicycles.com/bikes/crosscore/
Getting closer to your weight/torque/price criteria.

 

[Cyklefanatic]

Here's another possibility: https://www.yamahabicycles.com/bikes/crosscore/
Getting closer to your weight/torque/price criteria.

Website says 43 pounds for the crosscore so it way overweight.

 

[FlatSix911]

I am surprised no one has suggested the most over-hyped bike right now on the web... the 25 mph/ 33 lb Babymaker!

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[Stefan Mikes]

the 25 mph

The OP's in the UK, babe No rack, fenders, either.

 

[FlatSix911]

The OP's in the UK, babe No rack, fenders, either.

I just could not resist... gotta love the name!

 

[Deacon Blues]

Website says 43 pounds for the crosscore so it way overweight.

But unlike the Vado SL the battery can be taken off, which would bring the bike's weight closer the the Vado's weight.
I use the Vado as an example, because it's one of the few ebikes we've discussed here that meets most of Aneesa's criteria.

 

[byunbee]

But unlike the Vado SL the battery can be taken off, which would bring the bike's weight closer the the Vado's weight.
I use the Vado as an example, because it's one of the few ebikes we've discussed here that meets most of Aneesa's criteria.

I really like the Yamaha CrossCore. Quality bike from reliable brand and relatively light if she can handle 5lb additional weight.

 

[FlatSix911]

I really like the Yamaha CrossCore. Quality bike from a reliable brand and relatively light if she can handle 5lb additional weight.

I really like the CrossCore with the Yamaha drive system... here is the complete EBR review.
At 44 lbs you can remove the battery and probably get it down to about 37 lbs minimum.

Yamaha Cross Core Review

Price: $2399 | Model Year: 2019 | A sleek affordable commuter from Yamaha, a household brand name going for a balance of price, performance, efficiency, and a purist feel, for years they did their homework studying their applications on Haibike, Giant, etc, using data and analysis to make...

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[byunbee]

I really like the CrossCore with the Yamaha drive system... here is the complete EBR review.
At 44 lbs you can remove the battery and probably get it down to about 37 lbs minimum.

Yamaha Cross Core Review

Price: $2399 | Model Year: 2019 | A sleek affordable commuter from Yamaha, a household brand name going for a balance of price, performance, efficiency, and a purist feel, for years they did their homework studying their applications on Haibike, Giant, etc, using data and analysis to make...

electricbikereview.com

Currently on sale as in-store demo for $1780 at Crazy Lenny's.
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[Aneesa Chaudhry]

That Cross Core does look like an attractive option.

Aneesa, you should go over to the Specialized forum and read the end of the rather long thread on the Vado SL. A new member in Portland just bought one. The fellow says he's 260 lbs. and he was riding a regular bike where he had to get off and walk up hills. He said now with the Vado SL he can ride up the hills. He's working, but not overly hard and he's only going 6-8 mph, but he puts the bike in turbo and gets up the hill. Once he gets to the top he lowers the assist level again.

I think that's a pretty good endorsement and if it helps a 260 lb. guy get up hills I'm sure it would do the job for you.

That's pretty good isn't it. I've been trying to find a local dealer where I can try the bike but no surprisingly they are had to come by and only really ordered in if purchased. This and the Bianchi are my current favourites. The specialised Levi has 95nm and is about 20kg) where as the Vado has 35nm....i'm wondering how that would feel with the walk assist up our steps.

 

[byunbee]

Gogoro’s Eeyo 1 is the ‘sports car’ of e-bikes

Coming this summer from the company known for its slick e-scooters

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Gogoro Eeyo - An ultralight ebike that rides like nothing else.

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This seems like the perfect bike for you. It's only 26.4lbs or 11.97kg with internal battery. The battery capacity is small but it's half the weight of lighter ebikes out there so you should still get decent range.
It even has Gates Carbon belt drive.

 

[FlatSix911]

Gogoro’s Eeyo 1 is the ‘sports car’ of e-bikes

Coming this summer from the company known for its slick e-scooters

www.theverge.com

Gogoro Eeyo - An ultralight ebike that rides like nothing else.

Whether navigating a speedy work commute, or just cruising around town, the Gogoro Eeyo is city riding at its best.

eeyo.bike

This seems like the perfect bike for you. It's only 26.4lbs or 11.97kg with internal battery. The battery capacity is small but it's half the weight of lighter ebikes out there so you should still get decent range.
It even has Gates Carbon belt drive.

This model was suggested previously about 4 pages back in this thread... and we agree that it is a good option.

 

[byunbee]

This model was suggested previously about 4 pages back in this thread... and we agree that it is a good option.

Oh..can't keep up with the thread...too many suggestions.

 

[Aneesa Chaudhry]

Hi everyone,
I just wanted to up date you on where i'm at given so many of you have tried to help me out. I tried a specialised Vado which has 35nm and felt it was not powerful enough to help me up the hills. I then tried a 90nm specialised Levo which had 4 x human power. It got me up the hills (YAYE!) but is approx 23kg. I tried the walk assist up our steps and the wheels spun because I didn't quite have the strength to push it. I have looked into renovating our front garden which is on the slope but can't due to pipe work and needing planning permission etc. Lastly, I have been enquiring about the Bianchi T-Tronik sport which is about 16kg BUT without the battery is approx 3.5kg less. I would be able to lift this bike AND it has 85nm. I don't know the Bianchi motor very well but would think that 5nm less than the powerful 90nm I tried on the specialised vado should be pretty darn close to my needs. I haven't managed to find a dealer in the UK yet who has this bike in stock for me to try. I'm glad i've tried several e bikes so far as it's helped me identify the ones that are no good for me. I'll keep you all posted. You've all been amazing. Thank you, Aneesa

 

[FlatSix911]

Hi everyone,
I just wanted to up date you on where i'm at given so many of you have tried to help me out. I tried a specialized Vado which has 35nm and felt it was not powerful enough to help me up the hills. I then tried a 90nm specialized Levo which had 4 x human power. It got me up the hills (YAYE!) but is approx 23kg. I tried the walk assist up our steps and the wheels spun because I didn't quite have the strength to push it. I have looked into renovating our front garden which is on the slope but can't due to pipe work and needing planning permission etc.

Lastly, I have been enquiring about the Bianchi T-Tronik sport which is about 16kg BUT without the battery is approx 3.5kg less. I would be able to lift this bike AND it has 85nm.
I don't know the Bianchi motor very well but would think that 5nm less than the powerful 90nm I tried on the specialized vado should be pretty darn close to my needs. I haven't managed to find a dealer in the UK yet who has this bike in stock for me to try. I'm glad i've tried several e bikes so far as it's helped me identify the ones that are no good for me. I'll keep you all posted. You've all been amazing. Thank you, Aneesa

I have a Bianchi with the Shimano Steps system and it has been trouble-free for 4+ years. Enjoy the ride!

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[Cyklefanatic]

I am surprised no one has suggested the most over-hyped bike right now on the web... the 25 mph/ 33 lb Babymaker!

FLX Baby Maker Review

Price: $1999 | Model Year: 2020 | A single speed road bike with a reliable and smooth belt drive, very aesthetically pleasing, minimalist design that hides the battery and uses a no-nonsense display, also comes in a variety of color ways to choose from, a perfect setup for those that want an...

electricbikereview.com

The Babymaker - Stealth Road eBike With Belt Drive

Leave boring behind. Classic look with modern Ebike tech. Turn heads and crush any hill in style. | Check out 'The Babymaker - Stealth Road eBike With Belt Drive' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

I am surprised no one has suggested the most over-hyped bike right now on the web... the 25 mph/ 33 lb Babymaker!

FLX Baby Maker Review

Price: $1999 | Model Year: 2020 | A single speed road bike with a reliable and smooth belt drive, very aesthetically pleasing, minimalist design that hides the battery and uses a no-nonsense display, also comes in a variety of color ways to choose from, a perfect setup for those that want an...

electricbikereview.com

The Babymaker - Stealth Road eBike With Belt Drive

Leave boring behind. Classic look with modern Ebike tech. Turn heads and crush any hill in style. | Check out 'The Babymaker - Stealth Road eBike With Belt Drive' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

I believe it was suggested. Because it doesn’t have gears it’s pretty useless for hills specially if your carrying extra weight.