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[mschwett]

Suppsedly Xi was not used because it's a common surname. But they did use Mu, which is a much more common surname. There's no end to deceptions from the WHO.

there is no nation whose leader's surname is "mu"

you are delusional.

 

[Handlebars]

there is no nation whose leader's surname is "mu"

I didn't say there is.

 

[Handlebars]

The WHO clarified in a statement to Associated Press on Saturday that Nu is too easily confounded with ‘new’, and Xi was not used because it is a common last name.

The National Post might not be of any help, but others probably can read it like I can.

...and the AP says this

CLAIM: The World Health Organization skipped two letters of the Greek alphabet, nu and xi, when naming omicron, a newly identified variant of the coronavirus.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: True. The agency said it did so to stop people confusing nu with “new” and to avoid “causing offense” because Xi is a common last name.

 

[mschwett]

I didn't say there was.

then you’re willfully ignoring the obvious and widely discussed explanation why “xi” was not used. it’s not just because it’s a common surname, it’s because it’s the surname of china’s president. both xi and mu are only moderately common names, 500,000 to 1,000,000 people.

if “bush” or “obama” or “biden” or “putin” was a phonetic letter of the alphabet they wouldn’t name viruses, hurricanes, or whatever after it no matter how common or uncommon it was.

 

[Handlebars]

then you’re willfully ignoring the obvious

No. You are changing the subject from "the WHO lied again", to what you perceive of me and now my intention. They aren't the topic. The topic is "The WHO lied to the world again".

 

[Handlebars]

Or maybe it could be "The WHO got caught deceiving the world again"

then you’re willfully ignoring the obvious and widely discussed explanation why “xi” was not used. it’s not just because it’s a common surname, it’s because it’s the surname of china’s president. both xi and mu are only moderately common names, 500,000 to 1,000,000 people.

if “bush” or “obama” or “biden” or “putin” was a phonetic letter of the alphabet they wouldn’t name viruses, hurricanes, or whatever after it no matter how common or uncommon it was.

The other problem with your response, is that as you say, many figured that out all on their own...so that acceptance by both you and I, what that actually does, is, in a sense, proving the case that what I said was accurate...that the WHO indeed lied. Or at least you have another reason to admit I'm right.
And it's just more solid evidence of yet another deliberate lie to the world.

 

[mschwett]

apparently common sense is not so common! or at least, it doesn't penetrate tin foil...

 

[Handlebars]

...for agreeing with part of your narrative...that of course, the reason was not because it's a common name. I agreed with you. The trouble is that the WHO disagrees and says it was because it's a common surname.They lied to the world stupidly once again.
I grant you, some people seem to have trouble understanding even that much.

 

[Art Deco]

But but but... it's a GOOD kinda crazy!

Indeed. Compare the outcomes of riding a bike vs most hobbies ... my shooting range time didn't help my health (either physical or mental) or the health of the planet, nor did my limited golf course time.
And compare an ebike ride vs a yacht ride, etc.
Edit. Or arguing on the internet...

 

[Art Deco]

I'm a crazy enough to install 120 gallon water heater with filter to use for shower and cooking coffee. Solar powered!!!!!?

So is it solar powered? I described mine at the beginning of this thread.

 

[Handlebars]

then you’re willfully ignoring the obvious and widely discussed explanation why “xi” was not used. it’s not just because it’s a common surname, it’s because it’s the surname of china’s president. both xi and mu are only moderately common names, 500,000 to 1,000,000 people.

if “bush” or “obama” or “biden” or “putin” was a phonetic letter of the alphabet they wouldn’t name viruses, hurricanes, or whatever after it no matter how common or uncommon it was.

The New York Times also tells us it's because Xi is a common name, not because of China's president's name. The NYT additionally gives us the name of the WHO official so it's all evidenced, and if you think the truth is otherwise, then the WHO lied. I believe what you argued for, that's the real reason - they avoided it because the name reminds of President Xi.
And they used "mu" which is even more common a name.
NYT:
“'Nu' is too easily confounded with 'new,'” Tarik Jasarevic, a W.H.O. spokesman ... “And 'Xi' was not used because it is a common last name.

 

[Handlebars]

apparently common sense is not so common! or at least, it doesn't penetrate tin foil...

“A man should never be ashamed to own that he has been in the wrong, which is but saying in other words that he is wiser today than he was yesterday.”​

...Alexander Pope

 

[tomjasz]

apparently common sense is not so common! or at least, it doesn't penetrate tin foil...

Not worth it. Just change a setting and enjoy friendly positive banter. A phrase that evokes calm.

 

[BlackHand]

The New York Times also tells us it's because Xi is a common name, not because of China's president's name.

It does? Weren't you the one making comments about others' reading comprehension? Seems to me they pretty clearly report the realities of the situation and what likely factored into the decision to let the reader come to the obvious conclusion.

The whole thing is a political fart by the WHO: it stinks, everyone knows it, but it's more or less harmless. The polite people will ignore it as best they can and wait for it to fade; those with an ax to grind will call attention to it and go for maximum embarrassment.

BTW, is it correct to call something a deception if it doesn't actually deceive anybody and was never even realistically expected to? Not a debate, just a thought I had after reading your initial post on this.

 

[BlackHand]

So is it solar powered? I described mine at the beginning of this thread.

Back on-topic.

I was intrigued by this article a couple days ago as our gas WH is close to EOL, but the several hour reheat time would probably make it a non starter for our family.

120 Volt Heat Pump Water Heaters Hit the Market & Make Gas Replacements Even Easier - CleanTechnica

Sign up for daily news updates from CleanTechnica on email. Or follow us on Google News! Updated: Editor’s note – a previous version of this article stated that the Rheem 120 V water heater was already for sale. This water heater is expected to hit the market in the first ... [continued]

cleantechnica.com

 

[Art Deco]

Not entirely, it is connected to main utility power as secondary power, most of the time it will use solar energy stored in the batteries when panels that are on the roof top are not enough.
It's new to me, I have the option to set temperature.

Where you live, you might even be able to use a pure solar thermal setup. But not up here in cloudy Pennsylvania. I went with heat pump based systems for both space heating and water heating, and plumbed the old forty gallon tank as well, so 80 gallons.

 

[tomjasz]

I shouldn’t have looked…
Don’t Google thegatewaypundit

 

[tomjasz]

Where you live, you might even be able to use a pure solar thermal setup. But not up here in cloudy Pennsylvania. I went with heat pump based systems for both space heating and water heating, and plumbed the old forty gallon tank as well, so 80 gallons.

I saw those Chinese evacuated tubes with big anodes on an overcast day they got quite hot. I had all sorts of data at one time but Lost Wages and Clark County wouldn’t issue a building permit in 2004. Seeing that unsustainable zoo and the lack of solar is criminal. 1inch diameter black irrigation tubing up against a foundation exposed will melt the poly tubing.

 

[john peck]

Rain on the lower slopes of Whistler does not seem that unusual except in maybe the dead of winter-- I haven't been there since about 2004 or so, but...

...even then, everyone at the resort was shaking their heads and saying, "It didn't used to be this way."

I remember skiing all the way to the bottom during my one trip there, which I think was in March. The conditions on the lower slopes were almost unskiable, never been in slush that deep. I had the same feeling I had at Baldy in So Cal, or at Mt. Waterman-- by 2012 or so, that resort could only open maybe a dozen days a year, and even then it was insanely dangerous-- mud, rocks, slush, grass, dirt-- it was a labor of love and nostalgia by the people running it. (Unfortunately, plenty of dirty diesel engines for the lifts as well.) "This place was designed and graded when the weather was very different."

Not citing this as empirical proof of anything-- of course there's plenty of that elsewhere-- just saying, there are a lot of resorts now where I have that feeling, most skiers I know feel the same way, and it's pretty spooky and unnerving.

4¨ of diamond dust fluff on hard pack...., I miss skiing, but haven´t since that car busted me up.
i probly still could, but nothin´ like before....¨I cudda bin a contender.¨ It´s alright; the bike´ll do.

 

[tomjasz]

4¨ of diamond dust fluff on hard pack...., I miss skiing, but haven´t since that car busted me up.
i probly still could, but nothin´ like before....¨I cudda bin a contender.¨ It´s alright; the bike´ll do.

I miss my skinny ski’s. Not a chance… I’m trike planning…