2wheelsgood
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Fascinated to hear the outcome of this. That sounds like it should be a night and day upgrade.
What levers did you choose by the way?
Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)
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What levers did you choose by the way?
Jeremy McCreary
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I certainly hope so. Will report back.
Shimano Deore BR-M6100 Front lever $30
Shimano Deore BR-M6100 Rear lever $30
Shimano GRX RX820 Front caliper $100
Shimano GRX RX820 Rear caliper $100
Shimano 160 rear caliper adapter $21
Shimano BH-90 hose kit $33 each ($66)
RT64 160mm rotors $40 each ($80)
Front labor is $100
Rear labor is $ 120+
Total $657+ before tax
Part prices are in line with those on Jenson USA. The listed levers and hoses were originally proposed for the RX410 calipers — no mention of changes needed for the RX820s. The rear labor figure assumes that hose routing around the motor goes smoothly.
Fingers crossed!
What's that rear adapter for Jeremy? Is it a post mount caliper or something?
It's crazy to note that if you went for the GRX 820 Brifter lever you'd be paying $300+ for one! They f*ck you at the (drop bar) drive in!
stompandgo
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As long as the lever and caliper use the same type of mineral oil (standard or LV), they are compatible.
The calipers are flat mount. The adapter is for 160mm rotors. Direct mount is 140mm.
Jeremy McCreary
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Just one more reason to love flat bars!
2wheelsgood
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As I understand it, your levers are not much different to my 8100 XT levers - you will love the one finger operation I am sure.
The overall feel and modulation of that full setup should be really impressive.
Allan47.7339
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My Creo 1 has wheels built with a gravel 32H G540 rim and 350 hub with over 15000 miles. They are still as true as when they were new. My Creo came with oem Roval carbon wheels but I exceed their load rating so I never used them and sold to pay for the new wheels. Not worrying about wheels is good especially bombing down hills.
Stefan Mikes
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My generic Specialized rear wheel on Vado SL had survived 20,130 km (12,500 miles) before I decided to replace it. The U623/DT350/32 Sapim Strong combination is rated for such a high load I wouldn't hesitate installing in on my heavy Vado 6.0, especially with the rim width of 25 mm (which would allow me using 47 mm tyres). I should receive the shipment in two days, excited!
And well, my riding style for Vado SL has changed. No more grocery or overloaded rides for that e-bike! (Riding rough trails fast will be OK).
@Allan47.7339: Is your rear hub 12x148 mm, Centerlock? No issues to install? Alloy or steel freehub body?
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Allan47.7339
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Yes the Creo 1 is road boost with 12 x 148mm Centerlock. It came with Shimano but I have since converted to SRAM with a XD driver. Centerlock is not required as you can also use a six bolt sensor although some third party magnets may not work. See the All About Turbo section article:
Stefan Mikes
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Thank you Allan!
Stefan Mikes
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Here It Is!
As I was installing the wheel back on my Fearless, I had a little panic attack
but all went well. Setting off for a test ride soon.
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Dismantling the cassette was a good thing. It was not only full of grime but I could also remove some twig that was entangled in the cassette from the back! Moving the magnet holder was an opportunity to clean the magnet, which was extremely dirty as well
Ooh, let it work... I'm setting off for a 100 km gravel group ride I've organized tomorrow!
- DT Swiss U623 rim, 25-622
- DT Swiss 350 rear hub, 12x148 mm, Centerlock (new model: Hybrid)
- Steel HG freehub body
- 32 Sapim Strong 290 mm spokes
- Brass nipples
- Tubeless tape
- Presta valve adapter
- Maximum system weight 180 kg
- ASME classification: 2 (gravel)
- A custom 11-speed, 11-51T cassette, custom, based on CS-M5100 (gears 1-6) and CS-M8000 (gears 7-11)
- A 160 mm Tektro brake rotor, Specialized e-bike magnet bracket.
As I was installing the wheel back on my Fearless, I had a little panic attack
but all went well. Setting off for a test ride soon. -----------
Dismantling the cassette was a good thing. It was not only full of grime but I could also remove some twig that was entangled in the cassette from the back! Moving the magnet holder was an opportunity to clean the magnet, which was extremely dirty as well
Ooh, let it work... I'm setting off for a 100 km gravel group ride I've organized tomorrow!
Stefan Mikes
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All good!
Twowheelxtc
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I put some Hunt carbon wheels on my SL2 recently. Despite the 700g reduction in weight (per wheel) I can’t say I’ve felt much difference in performance Other than the bike being easier to accelerate from standstill. They are rates as being suited to road and light gravel so not for the rides you do Stefan! At £500 and weighing just 1400g they were well priced.
Stefan Mikes
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During my test ride, the rear wheel fell into a deep pothole. "So what" I said under my breath
Per a set?
Twowheelxtc
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Stefan Mikes
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An excellent price as for carbon wheels from a well known brand! Regarding my Lemon Bike wheels, the builder company offers them to e-bikers and bike-packers. Comparing the weight per a wheelset: yours 1400 g, mine 2360. The U623 set can be bought for an equivalent of 410 quids. I simply didn't need the front wheel and had some custom requirements (like, a steel freehub body as the alloy ones by DT tend to errode).
Jeremy McCreary
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Interesting observation very much in line with what I've been reading lately about the real cost/benefit of weight reduction in cycling. (Several recent GCN videos on this very topic.)
Sounds like you might feel the acceleration and overall responsiveness benefit with, say, a 1 kg reduction. Maybe also in manhandling the bike and on steep climbs.
One thing's clear: Wheel mass is the most effective place to start cutting but not necessarily the cheapest. And for riders with no compelling need for the main benefits above, the return on investment seems pretty dubious.
Ran the numbers on my own SL 1 at 105 kg system mass. If the system were to magically lose 10 kg (9.5% of system mass), I'd save only 4W on the flat at a steady 24 km/h (15 mph), and only 18W on either a 5% climb at 12 km/h (7.5 mph) or an 8% climb at 8 km/h (5 mph).
So in theory, not much incentive to pay $$$ to lose 1.4 kg in wheels for my usual climbing. But I'd still consider it for the potential gain in responsiveness in ECO and OFF.
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stompandgo
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They are basic Chinese carbon wheels, nothing special, but they have marketed them to racers. I see a lot of them in the pit.
stompandgo
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Well designed carbon wheels are stronger (relatively) and ride better (subjectively) than equivalent aluminum wheels. They are also more aero, so put that into your calculations. I've been riding carbon wheels for so long now, I won't go back. The aluminum wheels that came with the Pinarello lasted one ride before I knew that I wanted to swap them out. High quality carbon wheels just ride better.
DaveMatthews
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Because of minor flex in the material, or...?
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