It is to bad he isn't making is court dates.
Just a heads up... I texted with Storm today about the new bikes, they do not include the LCD, you'll need to order it separately for $100 here. Also, the new bikes are single speed, the upgraded battery option for $70 gets you a 12.8 Amp Hour battery vs. the standard 8.8 Ah and the "narrower" tire option is a standard 26" x 4" whereas the original Sondors (and updated fat design) has 26" x 4.9". Hope this helps anyone considering the bike... I spent something like $850 today for one of the new models with a suspension fork and larger battery for review next year, didn't go with the Aluminum frame but I'd guess it's a couple pounds lighter?$499 and includes the LCD display new colors new tire option new fork and frame option. Only wish they would ship to Canada :-(
Just a heads up... I texted with Storm today about the new bikes, they do not include the LCD, you'll need to order it separately for $100 here. Also, the new bikes are single speed, the upgraded battery option for $70 gets you a 12.8 Amp Hour battery vs. the standard 8.8 Ah and the "narrower" tire option is a standard 26" x 4" whereas the original Sondors (and updated fat design) has 26" x 4.9". Hope this helps anyone considering the bike... I spent something like $850 today for one of the new models with a suspension fork and larger battery for review next year, didn't go with the Aluminum frame but I'd guess it's a couple pounds lighter?
Also, I agree with some of the points made by @FTC Complaint and am not endorsing Sondors, I try to offer every person and every brand respect and general support. I got the bike for review so I could bring more information to the community. I wonder if some of the original bikes ordered for Australia will be repurposed here for the updated campaign. Reduce, Reuse and Recycle right?
Just a heads up... I texted with Storm today about the new bikes, they do not include the LCD, you'll need to order it separately for $100 here. Also, the new bikes are single speed, the upgraded battery option for $70 gets you a 12.8 Amp Hour battery vs. the standard 8.8 Ah and the "narrower" tire option is a standard 26" x 4" whereas the original Sondors (and updated fat design) has 26" x 4.9". Hope this helps anyone considering the bike... I spent something like $850 today for one of the new models with a suspension fork and larger battery for review next year, didn't go with the Aluminum frame but I'd guess it's a couple pounds lighter?
Also, I agree with some of the points made by @FTC Complaint and am not endorsing Sondors, I try to offer every person and every brand respect and general support. I got the bike for review so I could bring more information to the community. I wonder if some of the original bikes ordered for Australia will be repurposed here for the updated campaign. Reduce, Reuse and Recycle right?
Agency 2.0 and IGG are almost one and the same. A2 tends to speak for IGG. Since Agency is suing Sondors, it's hard to see Storm and IGG having a very healthy relationship.Interesting that Sondors didn't go with Indiegogo again, I guess they must have screwed him over in much the same way as Agency 2.0 allegedly did?. what other reason would he have for not showing loyalty to the team that gave him his success?
Court,
Fill us in again, what happened with the "Australian" Storms?
Just be clear, you ordered the "the new design Sondors, $499+ 194 sh. + 70 s forks+ 85 big battery = $848 And you are ordering the LCD separately? And do you have any idea of a delivery date? I emailed Storm about the total weight, haven't heard back yet. I would guess the suspension forks paired with the original steel frame and narrower tires will weigh in around 66 lbs... maybe 63 with the alum frame???
. The people behind the Sondors website are "Hitler"? Come on.
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1. I'm very happy to see decent ebikes being offered at decent prices. (Period, end of thought one)
2. This further dilutes the idea of crowd-funding. Sondors has gotten their kick start (small k). Sondors ebikes took in millions in 2015, why do they need crowd-funding?
3. @Court paying for a bike to review it, does that set a bad president? Can EBR afford to do that with other brands?
Posted above by George S..
Steve Bee
18 hours ago
Be warned: If you live in Aus, NZ or Switzerland, you won’t get be getting a bike:
“We regret to inform you that customs has declined entry of your Sondors eBike into the country and we have no choice but to return them to the warehouse and refund you in full. What’s the reason? Our current 350W option does not meet the 250W
limit. Please accept our humble apologies and note that we’re currently working with our accounting team and Indiegogo to process these refunds asap.
Sincerely,
Storm"
Oh right... then some lucky US KS buyers will be getting some well traveled bikes...
On 2, I'm sure it's easier, but claims by crowd-funding sites that "this is not a store" when you've had the kind of success that Sondors has had could draw a lot of unwanted attention by the tax man and regulators. You can't really claim it's not a store for V-2 after millions of dollars of success with V-1. Radrover went private after a successful campaign.I agree on point 1! On point 2, it is probably just easier to offer the bike again with some upgrades they decided would be well received while they were doing the first production runs.
On point 3 I kinda sorta agree, however I am also in the boat where I'd like to see a longer term impression of the bike (not just this bike, but others as well, however this bike from day one has been a unique beast). To that point, I think actually that having to purchase the bike invites a more frank and honest assessment as there is no real direct tie to the manufacturer/maker of the bike. I do think @Court has done a great job of keeping himself as unbiased as possible, and also appreciate that he has kept some direct contact with Sondors through everything.
In general I'm in George's camp - level headed consumer. Civil court cases are not uncommon - if Apple wins their suit against Samsung, would those here vehemently opposing the sondors bike also start up a forum and comments section based campaign against Samsung and its users? I kinda doubt it. So why worry over a business to business court case with which you have zero skin in the game?