I'm about ready to buy the HyperScorpion except for all the poor reviews I see. Only problem is is that they are almost all 1 year old. Has anyone here bought one recently? Pros, Cons? Has Juiced looked into all of the problems mentioned in these reviews? I really like all of the extras on this bike for the price. But is it worth the potential hassles? Looking forward to some response to these questions. Thank You
Recent Reviews of Juiced HS?
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Uuzd4S
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I almost bought a HyperScorpion for one reason only . . . It came with two 19Ah, 52v batteries when, at the time, this battery was listed at Juiced for $1200 bucks each. When I'd purchased my RipCurrent S in Nov 2019, a spare 19Ah battery was $600, which I thought was high then (THE reason I didn't buy one as a spare when my Fat Bike was new). But it only took one year before the price on this Batt had doubled to $1200. It's price gouging because Juiced makes as much of their equipment as "Proprietary" as they can, like Apple or DELL does. That insures you MUST buy as many spares as possible from Juiced. I looked long and far for this battery and found many other e-bike manufacturer's use "over the counter" Batt's. So being unique in design, they can charge whatever they want. Now, the actual 18650's inside are standardized, meaning it can be "refurbished" by aftermarket outfits (or by yourself if you've the correct spot welder), because these battery's individual cells, the 18650, are manufactured to dimensional spec, but vary in quality. Generally, Sanyo or Panasonic make the better cells, but there are others that come close to their quality.
My 52v, 19Ah pack has been charged about 200 times now and is showing some sign's of reduced range. I used to go to a full charge @ 58.8v on a Juiced recommended Grin Satiator Universal Battery Charger https://www.amazon.com/Cycle-Satiator-Programmable-Electric-Battery/dp/B00VB2BXGG
Not cheap, but an excellent Charger. The price when I bought mine in early 2020, was about half of what Amazon is selling them for now. Anyways, I now charge to from 57.7 to 58v, which will increase the number of times I can "cycle" this battery. Also, I've never gone below 50v on discharge, meaning about a 1/3rd of the available power was remaining after each ride.
Anyways, Juiced has recently reduced toh price of this 52v, 19Ah E-Bike Battery back to $600 bucks just to sell all of their inventory, which they did. The reason being is that they're coming out with a new, 100% backwards-compatible replacement Battery. They offered up a "Pre-Order" of $650 for this battery + $50 bucks shipping supposedly arriving in June, next month, so I bought one of those instead of a HyperScorpion.
Just a tip, I was looking for a Front & Rear suspension E-Bike when I decided on the Juiced Product. My budget was around $2500 bucks and all the "decent" Rear Suspended E-Bikes started in price at around $5 Grand, double what I was willing to pay. The "Fat Bike" balloon tires seemed practical as an alternative/compromise + I added the Kinekt suspension Seatpost; https://www.amazon.com/Kinekt-Suspe...&qid=1652568367&sprefix=kinekt,aps,298&sr=8-3
I could have gone with Many other Fat Bike choices and done the same thing with the Seatpost, but Juiced advertised "Range", among a few other "must haves", were the reason I went with Juiced. That said, and after 12,000 miles on this thing, ANY "Sunday" ride beyond 25 miles is bordering on the ridiculous, unless your into competition riding. So, even after going thru about 4 different seating configurations to find what's comfortable for me, any E-Bike with a 40+ mile range would have worked for me. Juiced advertisements for the range of this RipCurrent S has varied greatly since I bought mine with an advertised range of 100 miles. I didn't need nor would I have ever have ridden that far between charges. During the peak of my riding season, I'll do about 3 20 mile trips a day with charging between each ride of 16 to 23 miles each. The only reason to buy a E-Bike with ridiculous range would be if you haven't access to a charger for several days . . like Camping! Then it makes sense.
I've written about the Quality Control issues with my bike, but Juiced does address them and overall puts out a pretty decent product. I've TIG welded Lots of aluminum, stainless and steel, and these welds are Very Good. With a Shimano Drivetrain, Tektro Brakes, Good battery cells, well thought out interface/controller and a respectable design overall, Juiced is not a bad choice. Most manufactures of complex equipment have QC issues when new. I've survived Juiced Industry Benchmark, Legendary Customer Service ( not the kind most would be proud of ; ) and I've still made it to 12,000miles in 2.5 seasons of riding. Overall, I've learned a Lot about E-Bikes in particular, Good Bike Tooling, Suspension Forks, fixing flats, adjusting Derailleur's, Shifters, Hyd Brake Calipers & pads, pumps, chains, lights, helmets and riding APP's. Thank You Juiced!
My 52v, 19Ah pack has been charged about 200 times now and is showing some sign's of reduced range. I used to go to a full charge @ 58.8v on a Juiced recommended Grin Satiator Universal Battery Charger https://www.amazon.com/Cycle-Satiator-Programmable-Electric-Battery/dp/B00VB2BXGG
Not cheap, but an excellent Charger. The price when I bought mine in early 2020, was about half of what Amazon is selling them for now. Anyways, I now charge to from 57.7 to 58v, which will increase the number of times I can "cycle" this battery. Also, I've never gone below 50v on discharge, meaning about a 1/3rd of the available power was remaining after each ride.
Anyways, Juiced has recently reduced toh price of this 52v, 19Ah E-Bike Battery back to $600 bucks just to sell all of their inventory, which they did. The reason being is that they're coming out with a new, 100% backwards-compatible replacement Battery. They offered up a "Pre-Order" of $650 for this battery + $50 bucks shipping supposedly arriving in June, next month, so I bought one of those instead of a HyperScorpion.
Just a tip, I was looking for a Front & Rear suspension E-Bike when I decided on the Juiced Product. My budget was around $2500 bucks and all the "decent" Rear Suspended E-Bikes started in price at around $5 Grand, double what I was willing to pay. The "Fat Bike" balloon tires seemed practical as an alternative/compromise + I added the Kinekt suspension Seatpost; https://www.amazon.com/Kinekt-Suspe...&qid=1652568367&sprefix=kinekt,aps,298&sr=8-3
I could have gone with Many other Fat Bike choices and done the same thing with the Seatpost, but Juiced advertised "Range", among a few other "must haves", were the reason I went with Juiced. That said, and after 12,000 miles on this thing, ANY "Sunday" ride beyond 25 miles is bordering on the ridiculous, unless your into competition riding. So, even after going thru about 4 different seating configurations to find what's comfortable for me, any E-Bike with a 40+ mile range would have worked for me. Juiced advertisements for the range of this RipCurrent S has varied greatly since I bought mine with an advertised range of 100 miles. I didn't need nor would I have ever have ridden that far between charges. During the peak of my riding season, I'll do about 3 20 mile trips a day with charging between each ride of 16 to 23 miles each. The only reason to buy a E-Bike with ridiculous range would be if you haven't access to a charger for several days . . like Camping! Then it makes sense.
I've written about the Quality Control issues with my bike, but Juiced does address them and overall puts out a pretty decent product. I've TIG welded Lots of aluminum, stainless and steel, and these welds are Very Good. With a Shimano Drivetrain, Tektro Brakes, Good battery cells, well thought out interface/controller and a respectable design overall, Juiced is not a bad choice. Most manufactures of complex equipment have QC issues when new. I've survived Juiced Industry Benchmark, Legendary Customer Service ( not the kind most would be proud of ; ) and I've still made it to 12,000miles in 2.5 seasons of riding. Overall, I've learned a Lot about E-Bikes in particular, Good Bike Tooling, Suspension Forks, fixing flats, adjusting Derailleur's, Shifters, Hyd Brake Calipers & pads, pumps, chains, lights, helmets and riding APP's. Thank You Juiced!
Thank you for the response. Lots of information to ponder. I'm still researching for a new bike and Juiced HS is only one that I am looking at for now. What I like about it is the full bunch of features installed on the bike, but is not the only thing I want in a bike. Reliability, customer service, and build quality are all factors I am looking at. I presently am riding a Rad Runner2 and like it, but I consider it my pick up truck and am looking for a sedan or sports car for a second ride.
Uuzd4S
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Looked at the Rad Runner2 specs and Yea, it's a Utility E-Bike to the core, Good Value too! It reminded me that this type of E-Bike was a serious consideration for my first E-Bike purchase. Rad Runner has some serious competition too, which is a Good thing. Competition tends to bring out better values. I was surprised to see the Rad Runner2 is a "Fixie", or single speed. Practical when you consider these hub motors actually are more efficient at a specific RPM, if geared properly. My RipCurrent S is heavy out of the box and heavier with a Pannier, Security Chain, Pump, Lights and my Hydration BackPack full of spares. All up it's about 100 lbs worth of Bike and 260 lbs worth of rider/backpack. That said, further gearing is necessary and I use all 9 gears as much as possible. I was having some shifting problems after last summer and changing the Cassette and cable fixed that. It shifts like new.
My apologies wagonryder, I mistook the HyperScorpion for the HyperScrambler2. It's the Scrambler that has two batteries, while the Scorpion has one. It's interesting that there's only $200 difference between the two considering the price of an additional battery, and only $100 diff from the HyperScorpion Express.
I have to say, going the 100mile + range on the skinny seat of the Scrambler would be a feat in itself ! The more I ride, the more a range of over 50 miles seems impractical. I'd have to have a better seat.
I am considering a second E-Bike, likely a even more conventional "commuter" style bike like the CrossCurrent X. Again, there are many choices and lots of competing manufacturers.
I'm following this thread and if/when you choose another E-Bike, I'd like to know which you go with. I can say that my RipCurrent S has held up well, is build well and gets the job done, but I cannot say with confidence that Juiced Customer Service will meet your needs. They've promised to improve because they've been called out within these forum's.
Happy Trails my friend!
My apologies wagonryder, I mistook the HyperScorpion for the HyperScrambler2. It's the Scrambler that has two batteries, while the Scorpion has one. It's interesting that there's only $200 difference between the two considering the price of an additional battery, and only $100 diff from the HyperScorpion Express.
I have to say, going the 100mile + range on the skinny seat of the Scrambler would be a feat in itself ! The more I ride, the more a range of over 50 miles seems impractical. I'd have to have a better seat.
I am considering a second E-Bike, likely a even more conventional "commuter" style bike like the CrossCurrent X. Again, there are many choices and lots of competing manufacturers.
I'm following this thread and if/when you choose another E-Bike, I'd like to know which you go with. I can say that my RipCurrent S has held up well, is build well and gets the job done, but I cannot say with confidence that Juiced Customer Service will meet your needs. They've promised to improve because they've been called out within these forum's.
Happy Trails my friend!
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