I also wanted to avoid flats and put a liner in my tires. Yes, it adds weight and spinning weight at that, but we have E-motor to help accelerate that extra mass! Brand I used is California Bike Gear Stop Flats. I also replaced the one tube that had a puncture with a thorn proof tube (Giant from the LBS). For commuting, reliability over weight -- highly robust and light are probably mutually exclusive qualities. Zero punctures since I took those measures.
Any tips on resetting the scanner icon? Same situation and I don’t want no downy lipped teenager messing with my stuff...
Suspension forks fitted! Need to head to bike shop to get a couple of small things to finish it off. Has turned out better than expected.
The forks are Manitou Marvel Pro 80mm travel XC racing forks. Tapered steerer about 5mm shorter than the stock steerer. Air shock with remote lockout, 32mm stanchions and pretty light. Got them from Bikewagon via eBay, delivered in 2 weeks to Australia so I was very happy with the transaction.
I was able to reuse the crown race off the stock forks which was good. Needed to move the front light up to the handlebars, I had some spare Problem Solver cage mounts so used one on the handlebars and removed parts of the light bracket to suit.
Also need to grab a 180mm post mount brake adaptor, will head out shortly for that to put the brake on the fork.
Mudguard is loosely attached with cable ties at the moment, will figure out a better solution as I want to keep it.
For the front hub adaption from 12 x 100 to 15 x 100 my local Giant dealer was absolutely zero help, useless actually and couldn't be less interested. Disappointing after dropping thousands of $ there over the years and recommending them to others.
So... I'm trying a couple of options. Currently mounted the wheel up with some 15mm internal diameter/20mm external diameter steel spacers. I ordered these off eBay and they're normally used for ATV axle spacers! Just grabbed a pack of five in random sizing and was able to get two of them to work. My longer term potential fix is a set of Zipp76 hub 15 x 100 front axle caps! They were the closest thing I could find that looked like they would work well. Still waiting for them to be delivered.
Things I want to tweak are the remote lockout setup, change it to a black cable outer and find a good spot for it. Mudguard mounting as previously mentioned and maybe get some contact film the same colour as the frame to cover the white paint of the forks.
Pics attached, any questions are welcome! Will provide ride impressions and some other tech information once completed.
Waiting for my replacement Speedbox 2 to arrive, then I will refit it and the 48t chairing. After that Project Quick-E+ will probably be done.
The forks are Manitou Marvel Pro 80mm travel XC racing forks. Tapered steerer about 5mm shorter than the stock steerer. Air shock with remote lockout, 32mm stanchions and pretty light. Got them from Bikewagon via eBay, delivered in 2 weeks to Australia so I was very happy with the transaction.
I was able to reuse the crown race off the stock forks which was good. Needed to move the front light up to the handlebars, I had some spare Problem Solver cage mounts so used one on the handlebars and removed parts of the light bracket to suit.
Also need to grab a 180mm post mount brake adaptor, will head out shortly for that to put the brake on the fork.
Mudguard is loosely attached with cable ties at the moment, will figure out a better solution as I want to keep it.
For the front hub adaption from 12 x 100 to 15 x 100 my local Giant dealer was absolutely zero help, useless actually and couldn't be less interested. Disappointing after dropping thousands of $ there over the years and recommending them to others.
So... I'm trying a couple of options. Currently mounted the wheel up with some 15mm internal diameter/20mm external diameter steel spacers. I ordered these off eBay and they're normally used for ATV axle spacers! Just grabbed a pack of five in random sizing and was able to get two of them to work. My longer term potential fix is a set of Zipp76 hub 15 x 100 front axle caps! They were the closest thing I could find that looked like they would work well. Still waiting for them to be delivered.
Things I want to tweak are the remote lockout setup, change it to a black cable outer and find a good spot for it. Mudguard mounting as previously mentioned and maybe get some contact film the same colour as the frame to cover the white paint of the forks.
Pics attached, any questions are welcome! Will provide ride impressions and some other tech information once completed.
Waiting for my replacement Speedbox 2 to arrive, then I will refit it and the 48t chairing. After that Project Quick-E+ will probably be done.
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Where to get the stuff required to fit the suspension forks...
Those forks can be purchased here:
Or look for them on eBay if outside USA, it's the same seller (Level 9/Bikewagon). Not many suitable good forks around so might be worth grabbing at the price.
Don't forget a 1 1/8" starnut like this one, your LBS should have them:
You'll need one of these to fit the brakes:
For the light, you might have to rig something up similar to my pic above, just watch the cable length.
Use the crown race from the stock fork, look up how to remove a crown race on YouTube if you're unsure, just be careful doing it.
Front hub...my interim solution is these to replace the Giant endcaps:
(Link Removed - No Longer Exists)
I have the 15mm and 20mm of those fitted.
Have ordered these endcaps as my good solution and will report if they work:
www.worldwidecyclery.com
Hope that helps anyone looking into doing a front suspension conversion on their rigid fork Quick-E+. Note that different forks may require different solutions with axles, brake adapters etc.
Those forks can be purchased here:
Boost Your Ride With Bike Forks: Unleash The Action
Unleash the action and boost your ride with our high-performance bike forks. Experience improved control and enhanced suspension. Shop now and elevate your cycling!
www.levelninesports.com
Or look for them on eBay if outside USA, it's the same seller (Level 9/Bikewagon). Not many suitable good forks around so might be worth grabbing at the price.
Don't forget a 1 1/8" starnut like this one, your LBS should have them:
You'll need one of these to fit the brakes:
For the light, you might have to rig something up similar to my pic above, just watch the cable length.
Use the crown race from the stock fork, look up how to remove a crown race on YouTube if you're unsure, just be careful doing it.
Front hub...my interim solution is these to replace the Giant endcaps:
(Link Removed - No Longer Exists)
I have the 15mm and 20mm of those fitted.
Have ordered these endcaps as my good solution and will report if they work:
Zipp 76 Front Hub End Cap Set, 15 x 100
Front Axle Conversion Kits - Zipp Front Hub Conversion Caps. MPN: 11.2018.047.000. UPC: 710845807626
www.worldwidecyclery.com
Hope that helps anyone looking into doing a front suspension conversion on their rigid fork Quick-E+. Note that different forks may require different solutions with axles, brake adapters etc.
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Good effort. You could get those adapters spun up on a lathe - would be an easy job for a skilled operator.
I finally went tubeless on the G ONE's. I was so sick of getting flats every few weeks on my work commute. For those that are considering making the leap... it was actually pretty straight forward with the G ONES.
Replacing the rim tape was simple and I didn't need compressed air for quick inflation to bed the tyres to the rims. I just inflated with my hand pump. My advice, do a dry-run without sealant fluid for initial inflation to check valve seal and general fit (my valve didn't have a good seal, so I had to slightly widen the valve hole on the rims). Inflating without fluid also revealed 3 or 4 large gashes in the tyre where quite a bit of air escaped... I considered patching the holes before I added the sealant but was curious to see if the fluid would seal them up for me. With the tyre now bedded to the rims, I just took out the valve core, added the fluid and re inflated with no mess! I lost quite a bit of fluid through the existing holes but they eventually did seal up which I was quite impressed about. If I were to do it again I would probably patch any holes on the tyre interior first to save the fluid that I lost sealing the existing holes (lost maybe 75ml worth, I had to deflate and top-up again).
No flats since the change!! I know it has prevented at least a few punctures (you can hear the puncture hiss before it self-seals).
Replacing the rim tape was simple and I didn't need compressed air for quick inflation to bed the tyres to the rims. I just inflated with my hand pump. My advice, do a dry-run without sealant fluid for initial inflation to check valve seal and general fit (my valve didn't have a good seal, so I had to slightly widen the valve hole on the rims). Inflating without fluid also revealed 3 or 4 large gashes in the tyre where quite a bit of air escaped... I considered patching the holes before I added the sealant but was curious to see if the fluid would seal them up for me. With the tyre now bedded to the rims, I just took out the valve core, added the fluid and re inflated with no mess! I lost quite a bit of fluid through the existing holes but they eventually did seal up which I was quite impressed about. If I were to do it again I would probably patch any holes on the tyre interior first to save the fluid that I lost sealing the existing holes (lost maybe 75ml worth, I had to deflate and top-up again).
No flats since the change!! I know it has prevented at least a few punctures (you can hear the puncture hiss before it self-seals).
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Alan111S
Member
Tyres
After 2000kms, got a big gash in the rear tyre so am off the road for now.
Has anybody found a good source for the original Schwalbe G-One Allround tyres? Confusingly, there are 2 variants of the 27.5 x 2.25. The Evolution Line and the Performance Line.
These seem to be the correct ones:- https://www.bike-components.de/en/Schwalbe/G-One-Allround-SnakeSkin-27-5-Folding-Tyre-p59883/
These are similar but the logos are Black and seem to be from the Performance Line. Maybe these are a new version:- https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/au/en/schwalbe-g-one-allround-dd-folding-tyre/rp-prod193429
Anyway, if I move up to a 2.4" wide, people on the forum seem to recommend the Super Moto X: https://www.bike-components.de/en/Schwalbe/Super-Moto-X-GreenGuard-27-5-Wired-Tyre-p59906/
They have GreenGuard and are suitable for on and off road, with slightly more rolling resistance but more durability.
One advantage for these is that I can pick up a pair from Dyson Bikes in Moorabbin which is less than 10km from my house and not pay any postage
Thoughts?
After 2000kms, got a big gash in the rear tyre so am off the road for now.
Has anybody found a good source for the original Schwalbe G-One Allround tyres? Confusingly, there are 2 variants of the 27.5 x 2.25. The Evolution Line and the Performance Line.
These seem to be the correct ones:- https://www.bike-components.de/en/Schwalbe/G-One-Allround-SnakeSkin-27-5-Folding-Tyre-p59883/
These are similar but the logos are Black and seem to be from the Performance Line. Maybe these are a new version:- https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/au/en/schwalbe-g-one-allround-dd-folding-tyre/rp-prod193429
Anyway, if I move up to a 2.4" wide, people on the forum seem to recommend the Super Moto X: https://www.bike-components.de/en/Schwalbe/Super-Moto-X-GreenGuard-27-5-Wired-Tyre-p59906/
They have GreenGuard and are suitable for on and off road, with slightly more rolling resistance but more durability.
One advantage for these is that I can pick up a pair from Dyson Bikes in Moorabbin which is less than 10km from my house and not pay any postage
Thoughts?
Alan111S
Member
Yes they seem to be 62mm. I've decided - I'm not going to chance it. Will buy a pair of G-Ones and fold up my existing Front and keep it as a spare.
Alan111S
Member
Looking at Schwalbes Website, there are now 2 versions of the G-Ones in 27" x 2.25"
The originals are Evolution Line (which are usually better made than the other Performance Line)
However, notice the EPI (or TPI) which is 67 not 127 which is more normal for Evolution. Maybe it's a Typo.
The Performance Line are also 67, and they have very slightly lower rolling resistance but better durability. Slightly heavier at 680g vs 600g, But they have DD and RaceGuard (some kind of Puncture Protection)
Ugh .... just noticed they have a reflective band ...... yuck.
These are being sold by Chain Reaction here:-
If you want the original Evolution ones that came with the 2019, they are being sold by this crowd here:-
www.bike-components.de
The originals are Evolution Line (which are usually better made than the other Performance Line)
However, notice the EPI (or TPI) which is 67 not 127 which is more normal for Evolution. Maybe it's a Typo.
The Performance Line are also 67, and they have very slightly lower rolling resistance but better durability. Slightly heavier at 680g vs 600g, But they have DD and RaceGuard (some kind of Puncture Protection)
Ugh .... just noticed they have a reflective band ...... yuck.
These are being sold by Chain Reaction here:-
Schwalbe G-One Allround DD Folding Tyre | Chain Reaction
Schwalbe G-One Allround DD Folding Tyre - Lowest Prices and FREE shipping available from The World's largest online bike store - Chain Reaction Cycles
www.chainreactioncycles.com
If you want the original Evolution ones that came with the 2019, they are being sold by this crowd here:-
27.5" Tyres
Purchase everything your bike needs in the Tyres - 27.5" Tyres category in our shop.
www.bike-components.de
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On Giant's website the g ones on Quick-E are are given as 27.5-2.35 (but your links are pointing to the 2.25 one, what is the size stated on the sidewall of your tires?), in that case going to 2.4 should not be a problem. Why don't you take a quick ride to the store , they can tell you if it will fit before selling you a pair.
Snake skin is said to be better for sidewall protection. What is your riding style btw? Speed, terrain ?
Alan111S
Member
Hi Johnny, I think 2.35 is a mistake on Giant's site as Schwalbe don't even list that size. Just checked the bike and they are 2.25. I want:-
Low Rolling Resistance for Fast Commuting mainly
Balloon Style Profile to soak up bumps
Occasional Trail Capability
So with those requirements I pretty much discounted the 2" tyres mentioned in the thread. Plus I like the Rolling Resistance of the G-Ones
Only reason for looking at Super Moto X was durability but then I compared the weight - about 1,125g for those vs 600g for the G-Ones, which also put me off.
(Unfortunately my existing rear tyre is kaput so no riding the bike anywhere. But I could pop the whole bike on the roof rack !)
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I see, I understand your criteria but rolling resistance makes the most difference at lower speeds (<=15mph). For higher speeds wind resistance dominate so you may not feel much of a difference if you are going faster. I understand that in Australia ebikes are limited to 15mph so G-ones may feel better. Still, your previous one wore in only 2000km it may be better to go for something more durable this time(not necessarily moto x, just something more durable, it may be cheaper in the long run). As a reference my marathons after 3k miles still had more than half thread life left(I had to change it because of sidewall damage though).
I had very similar criteria, balloon tires and a little trail capability. I went for big bens (I have 700c wheels so my options were for balloon tires were limited). I am happy with how it rides but time will tell its durability.
Good luck
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FlatSix911
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I agree with the recommendation to go with Big Ben Plus tires... excellent protection and durability.
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Alan111S
Member
OK I think I have narrowed it down. It's a toss up between these two:-
www.bike-components.de
or
www.bike-components.de
Schwalbe Marathon Almotion Evolution V-Guard 27.5" Folding Tyre
Schwalbe Marathon Almotion Evolution V-Guard 27.5" folding tyre is safe, stable and fast The Marathon Almotion Evolution V-Guard 27.5 folding tyre by Schwalbe has a revised tread pattern. The powerful ADDIX Compound boosts riding performance. An ide
www.bike-components.de
or
27.5" Tyres
Purchase everything your bike needs in the Tyres - 27.5" Tyres category in our shop.
www.bike-components.de
OK I think I have narrowed it down. It's a toss up between these two:-
Schwalbe Marathon Almotion Evolution V-Guard 27.5" Folding Tyre
Schwalbe Marathon Almotion Evolution V-Guard 27.5" folding tyre is safe, stable and fast The Marathon Almotion Evolution V-Guard 27.5 folding tyre by Schwalbe has a revised tread pattern. The powerful ADDIX Compound boosts riding performance. An ide
or
27.5" Tyres
Purchase everything your bike needs in the Tyres - 27.5" Tyres category in our shop.
I was once thinking about those exact two tires and I really liked almotion. I'd say go for almotion but the widest one seems to be 2.15.
Alan111S
Member
Hey, not really understanding any of this ^^^^, but it sounds like you would know the measurements to look for to replace the wheelset?
I have a dent in one of the rims plus spinning the wheel there is 2-4mm of side to side movement. Will take it to the Giant dealer LBS tomorrow and see if it is repairable.
Basically, I'm trying to look on Ebay or Bike Exchange for suitable parts ... so I have an idea of prices.
Alan111S
Member
So the Giant dealer was typically cautious and said I need to replace it (which is of course in his best interests)
But anyway, I'm keeping it as is for the moment. Will see if it affects the way the bike rides.
FYI, the rim size is 584-21 which means 650B or 27.5" in diameter and 21 mm wide.
With the tyres in the end, I decided to buy 1 replacement original G-One for the back since my front tyre is hardly worn.
And I also bought a pair of:-
Schwalbe Marathon Almotion Evolution V-Guard 27.5" Folding Tyre
Schwalbe Marathon Almotion Evolution V-Guard 27.5" folding tyre is safe, stable and fast The Marathon Almotion Evolution V-Guard 27.5 folding tyre by Schwalbe has a revised tread pattern. The powerful ADDIX Compound boosts riding performance. An ide
www.bike-components.de
to put on once the G-Ones are worn out.
Thanks everybody for the input - got a solution that I'm happy with.
