No throttle and no way home today... :(

[Gionnirocket]

Ignore Giovanni Ruccola as I did. He is a troll.

Ignored but replied to often as your ego is bigger then your brain.

 

[tomjasz]

Ignore Giovanni Ruccola as I did. He is a troll.

You're trolling this thread. I tried to be reasonable and you just keep on being a total asshat. We don't troll you ego-centric Specialized threads. WTF why do you troll every builder or throttle thread? Seriously? Do you get excited being a keyboard tough guy? Man, that's just sick! Every time I get to thinking you are worthwhile reading you poop your diapers and deny the stench everyone else can smell. Like a 3-year-old.

So with that rather than getting a time out. PLONK

 

[tomjasz]

Most of e-bikes are limited to 300 lbs including the bike weight.
You could:

• Visit a doctor
• Get on diet
• Do some exercises for several months
• Then try riding e-bike.

The user @mjeds has described a story how he got fit. Good to follow.

And with that ADIOS!

 

[Djangodog]

Can we discuss throttles now . I've only tried thumb throttles never twist type on an ebike. Are there any significant advantages between the two.
Thinking of trying the twist throttle.

Motorcycles use twist, snowmobiles use thumb and tractors generally use a lever, (or at least the old ones did).

I think that it is mostly a matter of preference and application. A twist throttle tends to be more complex.

Whatever you use, get a good one. A stuck throttle can be dangerous and if you are dependent on the throttle, a failure would ruin your day or even get you stuck in the middle of traffic or stranded. A lever or a throttle that is prone to accidental activation can also be dangerous. Coming from motorcycles, I think that I would prefer a twist throttle, but my hands on experience with an e-bike throttle is limited.

 

[Dave Rocks]

I have mid drive Twist Throttle Raleigh eMTB and the hub drive Thumb Throttle Ebike in my Avatar.

They both work the same Little twist/Little push go slow. Big Twist/Full Push go fast and slow/faster speed in between.

 

[Jason Knight]

Remember when there were ashtrays in elevators? There is a cross over of individual liberties with collective responsibilities in shared spaces.

And that is an excellent example of the difference between rights and narcissism. So many people who scream "butt muh rites" wouldn't know a civic virtue if C.B. Motley came back from the dead.

It's like New England "intellectual libertarianism" before the sociopathic dirtbag libertarianism from the rest of the world crushed it. Was based on one simple principle:

The rights of the individual should be inviolate so long as they do not impede, harm, or exploit the welfare and rights of others.

With modern libertarians taking a steaming dump on everything after the word "inviolate". Much akin to 2nd amendment die-hards who want to enshrine "Shall not be infringed" as if it were a commandment, whilst wiping their backside with the rest of the text if not the Constitution as a whole.

This concept of the "do no harm" metric as the stop point of what is and is not a right is why things like rape, theft, murder, speed limits, seat belt laws for minors, and so forth can be illegal without being rights violations. Que the feminists who do more harm than good to their cause -- which I support -- losing their freaking minds because I "dared' to compare rape to seat belts.

With cigarettes being dangerous, and harmful, you do NOT have the right to smoke them around others. With the possibility that masks do work -- despite the lies to the contrary -- not wearing them endangers others so mask mandates are not a rights violation.

And this narcissistic sociopathy can be seen across this thread and even these forums. So much "me me me f*** everyone else" going around. Take the "clown clothes" thing -- much like Metallica I'd never be caught dead dressed like Stryper -- but whatever floats your boat people!

And it seems to be a good deal of what drives the "die hard enthusiasts" to come across as effete elitist pricks. Particularly on things like "why would you ever need a throttle" or 'why does anyone need more than 250 watts" or "what do you mean you can't drop four grand on a bicycle" or any of the rest of the arrogant, self-centered manure a lot of so called "experts" seem to be shoveling; denigrating others to make themselves feel better about their "ego".

All one inch of it.

 

[Dave Rocks]

Two fingers on the brakes at all times. Get your fingers in this position and get used to it.

 

[Dave Rocks]

a twist throttle Should provide gradual power

 

[AHicks]

Most of e-bikes are limited to 300 lbs including the bike weight.
You could:

• Visit a doctor
• Get on diet
• Do some exercises for several months
• Then try riding e-bike.

The user @mjeds has described a story how he got fit. Good to follow.

Another popular ASSumption on your part. It's really none of your business, but FYI: I've been at this weight longer than I haven't and I would compare how my blood work comes back to yours any day. It's clean. I take one tiny pill a day for borderline high blood pressure. That's it!

I am comfortable at this weight, and consider myself as mobile as many that are half my weight. I am extremely lucky health wise....

Exercize? Kiss my butt, you have no idea. My dogs are walked twice daily, and I ride the bike daily. I do all of my own maintenance, including my home.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Another popular ASSumption on your part. It's really none of your business, but FYI: I've been at this weight longer than I haven't and I would compare how my blood work comes back to yours any day. It's clean. I take one tiny pill a day for borderline high blood pressure. That's it!

I am comfortable at this weight, and consider myself as mobile as many that are half my weight. I am extremely lucky health wise....

Exercize? Kiss my butt, you have no idea. My dogs are walked twice daily, and I ride the bike daily. I do all of my own maintenance, including my home.

Pay no mind to the troll.. they don't make one tiny pill for what ails him.
Vinegar and water is what he's been prescribed.

 

[PedalUma]

I have got to say, Stay Away From Twist. If the bike is silently ON and you need to walk it, maybe up or down some stairs or through a gate or door, it can go flying. One F-up is too many of this type. As the HB rises, doing a wheelie, and you try to gain control it accelerates. This only takes 2-seconds. It will charge ahead in the air smashing into anything in its path, including a plaintiff on courthouse steps.

 

[tomjasz]

I have mid drive Twist Throttle Raleigh eMTB and the hub drive Thumb Throttle Ebike in my Avatar.

They both work the same Little twist/Little push go slow. Big Twist/Full Push go fast and slow/faster speed in between.

I had numerous customers dump their bikes moving them with a twist throttle and even more opting for a better quality thumb throttle over a twist. With a CA3 display both can be tuned for better response.

 

[mschwett]

And that is an excellent example of the difference between rights and narcissism. So many people who scream "butt muh rites" wouldn't know a civic virtue if C.B. Motley came back from the dead.

It's like New England "intellectual libertarianism" before the sociopathic dirtbag libertarianism from the rest of the world crushed it. Was based on one simple principle:

The rights of the individual should be inviolate so long as they do not impede, harm, or exploit the welfare and rights of others.

With modern libertarians taking a steaming dump on everything after the word "inviolate". Much akin to 2nd amendment die-hards who want to enshrine "Shall not be infringed" as if it were a commandment, whilst wiping their backside with the rest of the text if not the Constitution as a whole.

This concept of the "do no harm" metric as the stop point of what is and is not a right is why things like rape, theft, murder, speed limits, seat belt laws for minors, and so forth can be illegal without being rights violations. Que the feminists who do more harm than good to their cause -- which I support -- losing their freaking minds because I "dared' to compare rape to seat belts.

With cigarettes being dangerous, and harmful, you do NOT have the right to smoke them around others. With the possibility that masks do work -- despite the lies to the contrary -- not wearing them endangers others so mask mandates are not a rights violation.

And this narcissistic sociopathy can be seen across this thread and even these forums. So much "me me me f*** everyone else" going around. Take the "clown clothes" thing -- much like Metallica I'd never be caught dead dressed like Stryper -- but whatever floats your boat people!

And it seems to be a good deal of what drives the "die hard enthusiasts" to come across as effete elitist pricks. Particularly on things like "why would you ever need a throttle" or 'why does anyone need more than 250 watts" or "what do you mean you can't drop four grand on a bicycle" or any of the rest of the arrogant, self-centered manure a lot of so called "experts" seem to be shoveling; denigrating others to make themselves feel better about their "ego".

All one inch of it.

I gotta ask…. Do you hate / look down on everybody, or just most people?!

 

[Djangodog]

Another popular ASSumption on your part. It's really none of your business, but FYI: I've been at this weight longer than I haven't and I would compare how my blood work comes back to yours any day. It's clean. I take one tiny pill a day for borderline high blood pressure. That's it!

I am comfortable at this weight, and consider myself as mobile as many that are half my weight. I am extremely lucky health wise....

Exercize? Kiss my butt, you have no idea. My dogs are walked twice daily, and I ride the bike daily. I do all of my own maintenance, including my home.

Then you are not disabled. So the throttle in your case is for convenience, not need, but you think that you should be able to use it even if prohibited because you say that a disabled person should be allowed to, of which you are not. Alrighty then, clear as mud. That make perfect sense.

Using other’s disabilities to make an argument for you getting your own way. Maybe that will come back to bite you….

 

[Gionnirocket]

I gotta ask…. Do you hate / look down on everybody, or just most people?!

Whenever I try to read one of his post... I get about 3 or 4 sentences in and then it just turns to...

 

[Rexlion]

With cigarettes being dangerous, and harmful, you do NOT have the right to smoke them around others. With the possibility that masks do work -- despite the lies to the contrary -- not wearing them endangers others so mask mandates are not a rights violation.

Good post overall, except for this one part. Prior to 2020, dozens and dozens of careful, peer-reviewed studies showed that masks don't stop the spread of viruses. Period. Even Mr. Fauci said in Feb. 2020 that general public masking would not be worthwhile to combat C-virus, but a month later he reversed himself; which one was the lie? Masks are worn in operating rooms primarily to protect the open incision from (relatively) large bacteria-laden droplets. Besides, everyone touches and fiddles with their own masks and contaminates them anyway.

 

[tomjasz]

MY APOLOGIES FOR TRASHING THIS THREAD BUT WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS PEER REVIEWS DEVOID OF EVIDENCE... OR CITATIONS...

Good post overall, except for this one part. Prior to 2020, dozens and dozens of careful, peer-reviewed studies showed that masks don't stop the spread of viruses. Period. Even Mr. Fauci said in Feb. 2020 that general public masking would not be worthwhile to combat C-virus, but a month later he reversed himself; which one was the lie? Masks are worn in operating rooms primarily to protect the open incision from (relatively) large bacteria-laden droplets. Besides, everyone touches and fiddles with their own masks and contaminates them anyway.

Ah jeez, really! Don’t trash a thread with this crap.

Y Li, M Liang, L Gao, MA Ahmed, JP Uy… - American Journal of …, 2021 - Elsevier
… This meta-analysis of all available articles provides the most current evidence to date on
the … In our results, the use of face masks reduced the risk of COVID-19 infection by 70% for …

Journal reference: PNAS 2020
DOI: 10.1073/pnas.2014564118

Abstract​

The science around the use of masks by the general public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. Policymakers need guidance on how masks should be used by the general population to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. Here, we synthesize the relevant literature to inform multiple areas: 1) transmission characteristics of COVID-19, 2) filtering characteristics and efficacy of masks, 3) estimated population impacts of widespread community mask use, and 4) sociological considerations for policies concerning mask-wearing. A primary route of transmission of COVID-19 is likely via small respiratory droplets, and is known to be transmissible from presymptomatic and asymptomatic individuals. Reducing disease spread requires two things: first, limit contacts of infected individuals via physical distancing and contact tracing with appropriate quarantine, and second, reduce the transmission probability per contact by wearing masks in public, among other measures. The preponderance of evidence indicates that mask wearing reduces the transmissibility per contact by reducing transmission of infected droplets in both laboratory and clinical contexts. Public mask wearing is most effective at stopping spread of the virus when compliance is high. The decreased transmissibility could substantially reduce the death toll and economic impact while the cost of the intervention is low. Thus we recommend the adoption of public cloth mask wearing, as an effective form of source control, in conjunction with existing hygiene, distancing, and contact tracing strategies. We recommend that public officials and governments strongly encourage the use of widespread face masks in public, including the use of appropriate regulation.

 

[mschwett]

Good post overall, except for this one part. Prior to 2020, dozens and dozens of careful, peer-reviewed studies showed that masks don't stop the spread of viruses. Period. Even Mr. Fauci said in Feb. 2020 that general public masking would not be worthwhile to combat C-virus, but a month later he reversed himself; which one was the lie? Masks are worn in operating rooms primarily to protect the open incision from (relatively) large bacteria-laden droplets. Besides, everyone touches and fiddles with their own masks and contaminates them anyway.

Stanford Medicine: A large, randomized trial led by researchers at Stanford Medicine and Yale University has found that wearing a surgical face mask over the mouth and nose is an effective way to reduce the occurrence of COVID-19 in community settings.

SCIENCE VOL. 372, NO. 6549, Yafang Cheng et al: We find that most environments and contacts are under conditions of low virus abundance (virus-limited), where surgical masks are effective at preventing virus spread.

Mayo Clinic: Can face masks help slow the spread of the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)? Yes.

Nature: To be clear, the science supports using masks, with recent studies suggesting that they could save lives in different ways: research shows that they cut down the chances of both transmitting and catching the coronavirus, and some studies hint that masks might reduce the severity of infection if people do contract the disease.

The Conversation: Recently, I was part of the largest randomized controlled trial to date testing the effectiveness of mask-wearing. The study has yet to be peer reviewed but has been well received by the medical community. What we found provides gold-standard evidence that confirms previous research: Wearing masks, particularly surgical masks, prevents COVID-19.

There are literally hundreds of studies and studies of studies which show that masking reduces the community spread of covid. Science advances, new things are learned, and February 2020 is an eternity ago relative to this new disease. Neither was a lie, except to those politically motivated to claim it was.

 

[mschwett]

MY APOLOGIES FOR TRASHING THIS THREAD BUT WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS PEER REVIEWS DEVOID OF EVIDENCE... OR CITATIONS...



Ah jeez, really! Don’t trash a thread with this crap.

Y Li, M Liang, L Gao, MA Ahmed, JP Uy… - American Journal of …, 2021 - Elsevier
… This meta-analysis of all available articles provides the most current evidence to date on
the … In our results, the use of face masks reduced the risk of COVID-19 infection by 70% for …

Journal reference: PNAS 2020
DOI: 10.1073/pnas.2014564118

Abstract​

The science around the use of masks by the general public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. Policymakers need guidance on how masks should be used by the general population to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. Here, we synthesize the relevant literature to inform multiple areas: 1) transmission characteristics of COVID-19, 2) filtering characteristics and efficacy of masks, 3) estimated population impacts of widespread community mask use, and 4) sociological considerations for policies concerning mask-wearing. A primary route of transmission of COVID-19 is likely via small respiratory droplets, and is known to be transmissible from presymptomatic and asymptomatic individuals. Reducing disease spread requires two things: first, limit contacts of infected individuals via physical distancing and contact tracing with appropriate quarantine, and second, reduce the transmission probability per contact by wearing masks in public, among other measures. The preponderance of evidence indicates that mask wearing reduces the transmissibility per contact by reducing transmission of infected droplets in both laboratory and clinical contexts. Public mask wearing is most effective at stopping spread of the virus when compliance is high. The decreased transmissibility could substantially reduce the death toll and economic impact while the cost of the intervention is low. Thus we recommend the adoption of public cloth mask wearing, as an effective form of source control, in conjunction with existing hygiene, distancing, and contact tracing strategies. We recommend that public officials and governments strongly encourage the use of widespread face masks in public, including the use of appropriate regulation.

thank you. @Rexlion is full of sh1t.

 

[tomjasz]

There are literally hundreds of studies and studies of studies which show that masking reduces the community spread of covid. Science advances, new things are learned, and February 2020 is an eternity ago relative to this new disease. Neither was a lie, except to those politically motivated to claim it was.

Mayo clinic, that small time player.