onlineaddy
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-this thing is huge, im 5' 9 1/2" and the "crossbar" is at my crotch!
What size is your CC?
-this thing is huge, im 5' 9 1/2" and the "crossbar" is at my crotch!
I'm with you brother, having trouble opening software package Ivy sent me, file not supported message, downloaded first package no prob, the second package Frey says is the torque package with instructions will not open?? to be continued
One of my batteries, if tilted up or down, i can feel the whole pack shift up and down a couple inches inside the case ???
to be continued
P.S
Talked to watt, fat bike, triangle monster bag battery, all the bells, A mouse click away
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Mark
They are universal size/ there is only one sizeWhat size is your CC?
Ah, I see. So, in this case, one size definitely does not fit all.They are universal size/ there is only one size
What? Bike was stolen and recovered?!? Great news for you. That seems highly unusual for quick recovery. Congrats on finding it back in one piece, I hope.Yes my battery’s have improved, working on other issues, some minor shipping damage when I received the bike from the extra battery packed inside the box floating around took out my tail light (Frey sent me another) I look now and see wear and tear on the chain and cassette , only about 80 miles on the bike,
BIKE was stolen day 2 , thief put 4 miles on it, sheriffs Recovered , so who knows , take my comments with a grain on salt
I went on the street to the street crowd , caused some heatWhat? Bike was stolen and recovered?!? Great news for you. That seems highly unusual for quick recovery. Congrats on finding it back in one piece, I hope.![]()
I respectfully disagree. One size will fit almost all. I would say if you are at 5' 2" or shorter this bike may be too big. Other than that just personal choice, some folks like big some like smallAh, I see. So, in this case, one size definitely does not fit all.
A person 5'9 1/2" barely standing over vs a 5'2" person is a very wide margin. @onlineaddy made a valid point. Do you work for Frey? You just seem to take every comment regarding Frey very personally and take it to the level (per your words) "known to humankind that exists in our universe, "I respectfully disagree. One size will fit almost all. I would say if you are at 5' 2" or shorter this bike may be too big. Other than that just personal choice, some folks like big some like small
What is the standover height to the "crossbar"? Anyone with less inseam than that height won't fit. I'm 5'8" with a 30-in inseam. From your description I probably won't fit, and I'm hardly short short--just short medium.I respectfully disagree. One size will fit almost all. I would say if you are at 5' 2" or shorter this bike may be too big. Other than that just personal choice, some folks like big some like small
You are greatly overthinking this my friend, there is no negative feedback on Frey bicycles, I understand there is one person on this particular thread that seems to have an issue with batteries. No offense to that individual but I cannot find any other negativity towards Frey bikes known to humankind that exists in our universe, unless you have?
Still waiting for that link! I apologize if im defensive. Ive realized that there are many tire kickers here and that frustrates me. Again, link?A person 5'9 1/2" barely standing over vs a 5'2" person is a very wide margin. @onlineaddy made a valid point. Do you work for Frey? You just seem to take every comment regarding Frey very personally and take it to the level (per your words) "known to humankind that exists in our universe, "![]()
You're misunderstanding my point. There are people that have qualms or questions and they have every right to. I don't know how many because it's not my job to keep count or search the web looking for them. I'm being facetious regarding your combative tone when people challenge or question the bike in anyway. In the same vein as your "link?..link?...link?" Are you an ambassador for Frey?Still waiting for that link! I apologize if im defensive. Ive realized that there are many tire kickers here and that frustrates me. Again, link?
Thank you Seabeast for providing the link to the bike power calculator. It was very informative and should be useful to anyone trying to calculate the expected range of their bike. I’d also like to respond to the suggestion that Frey would substitute generic battery cells in place of the proprietary Samsung cells. I think it highly unlikely that Frey would risk their good reputation with such an unscrupulous action. I expect that they will continue to offer great customer service and respond appropriately to any legitimate concerns.Do have a source or evidence for this suggestion? I mean, "some have suggested" is about the weakest statement possible. It this is true, it would be a serious issue, so it seems kind of reckless to suggest this without providing any more info.
ebike range estimates seem sorta like the wild west right now, with few rules. Minimally, I think most ebikes assume you'll be pedaling at the same time. And for hub-drive bikes, I suspect your gear choice matters, and with all bikes, velocity makes a HUGE difference (power goes up with the cube of velocity). So if you cruise your CC at the same speed you ride your RadRover, you'd probably get better range from a charge.
Here's a fun bike power calculator: https://www.gribble.org/cycling/power_v_speed.html
Using the default parameters, cruising at 15mph takes 88.18 watts, while cruising at 25mph takes 326.16 watts.
So if you have a 1000Watt-hour battery, at 15mph you can cruise for 11.34 hours and cover 170 miles.
But at 25mph you can only cruise for 3.1 hours and cover 76.6 miles.
Obviously those specific numbers won't match your specific bike, but the point is that cruising at 25 instead of 15 reduces your range by more than half.
I think it highly unlikely that Frey would risk their good reputation with such an unscrupulous action.
I am warming up to the CC also, I did not mean to suggest Frey use counterfeit cells, I’m sure Frey doesn’t even make the Batteries, some people have rebadged 35E cells. If they use original 35E cells , good battery , for better battery 30Q or even better- LG HG2 cells. My batteries look different than other CC battery’s . I have seen has no info label , and in one of my batteries the cell pack is loose inside, flops around, I got a early bike maybe one of the first, received in February , any way , lots of things I need to check out as I learn about bikes, I’m clueless , need to take it to someone who knows what they are doing,To clarify, I like my CC and warming up to it every time I ride it. I created a separate thread to provide impressions along the way, positive and negative. I tend to be a perfectionist so perhaps have emphasized the negatives more than the positives. Some of the negatives are minor, like the light that kept falling off and eventually stopped working, the poorly adjusted derailleur that was off by a full click, the shift sensor which seems to be cutting power over big bumps, the brakes making odd noises, etc. No bike is perfect, the CC will not be for everyone. The Ultra will not be for everyone. Frey will not be for everyone. I bought the CC because it ticked more of my boxes than any other bike did. My frustrations have more to do with the characteristics of the stock controller which are more specific to the Ultra than the CC or Frey.
Battery quality may or may not be a factor. I asked Frey point blank about the supplier and cells in an email this weekend. They have not responded back. I heard they are having email issues if you reply to old emails. The lack of range I am getting may have more to do with the efficiency of the stock controller. Watt Wagons is reporting 20% efficiency gains with the aftermarket controller. I am also NOT running my batteries to 0%. My understanding is this is very bad for battery health, so I factor that into my range.
As noted the CC is a very heavy bike. Before I got my CC I used to walk past my 25 pound MTB in the garage and marvel at how light it was relative to my 50 pound eMTB. Now as I am passing my 50 pound eMTB in the garage I marvel how light it feels relative to my 75 pound CC.I'm not sure I would recommend this bike for an older person due to the weight. Grandma would be better off with a 50-60 pound low step. That said it rides super stable and comfortable and loves to go fast.
No, either you buy a new motor now or in the near future have a reseller mount the controller using special software, I believe it is needed to balance the motor.I haven't done much research on this yet but is it likely that we will be able to upgrade to the new controller when it comes out? Is it easy to purchase and install on your own? What can we expect to see in terms of performance increases?