Need help with Haibike, M1 spitzing, stealth, optibike, Stromer,focus, or grace e bikes

[Mike leroy]

So, spitzing are the performance specs as the gold standard to compare other bikes against.

How does the Grace One.15 Pro ($8500) compare ?

 

[Racingkyle]

Vmax: 75 km/h
0-50 km/h: 7,5 sec. 0 to 30 mph in 7.5 sec

right but is that the motor specs, or the specs while pedaling

 

[Mike leroy]

right but is that the motor specs, or the specs while pedaling

I think pedalling .

 

[Racingkyle]

I think pedalling .

7.5 seconds isn't bad, but I'm sure the stealth could beat it (consuming 1kw in the process haha)

 

[Racingkyle]

So, spitzing are the performance specs as the gold standard to compare other bikes against.

How does the Grace One.15 Pro ($8500) compare ?

The grace one.15 seems like a good alternative to the spitzing

 

[Racingkyle]

I think the grace one.15 will be cheaper, so there will be a bit of competition.

 

[Mike leroy]

7.5 seconds isn't bad, but I'm sure the stealth could beat it (consuming 1kw in the process haha)

Yes, almost twice as fast, I believe. Spitzing not so quick.

 

[Mike leroy]

The grace one.15 seems like a good alternative to the spitzing

I think spitzing is for the 45mph racing scene. 35mph is all I want to pay for.

 

[Mike leroy]

Did you notice what I did in the Google sheets? I pasted Court's review into the Google sheet so you could make your own rating, based on the same info.

Does that help you?

 

[Mike leroy]

Are you willing to spend $8500 on a Grace 15 Pro? I think the base model with shocks at $6000 is a better deal.

 

[Racingkyle]

Did you notice what I did in the Google sheets? I pasted Court's review into the Google sheet so you could make your own rating, based on the same info.

Does that help you?

Yes, that was very cool. I'm working with it right now.

 

[Racingkyle]

Are you willing to spend $8500 on a Grace 15 Pro? I think the base model with shocks at $6000 is a better deal.

I've seen the grace pro, but they haven't advertised a grace 15 pro yet as far as I'm aware

 

[Racingkyle]

I think spitzing is for the 45mph racing scene. 35mph is all I want to pay for.

Well it's all about how easy it gets to the 45 mph and how efficient it is.

 

[Mike leroy]

I've seen the grace pro, but they haven't advertised a grace 15 pro yet as far as I'm aware

You are correct. $5300 for the One.15 . That seems like the best deal. The spitzing is good because you have an idea for how much that. Extra performance costs.

 

[Racingkyle]

You are correct. $5300 for the One.15 . That seems like the best deal

that is an incredible deal, I'm just worried how the thing would do on a trail. last thing I would want is the bumps causing a connection to come loose since there is no suspension.

 

[Mike leroy]

that is an incredible deal, I'm just worried how the thing would do on a trail. last thing I would want is the bumps causing a connection to come loose since there is no suspension.

You can add one as extra. That is why I called it the Pro. I would go with shocks.

Fork Grace Rigid Fork, Rock Shox Domain RC

 

[Mike leroy]

I have always felt that I would buy two bikes. One fast road bike. Another full suspension. I would put more money into one, than the other. I do not think you can satisfaction from just one do-everything bike.

 

[Mike leroy]

Right now, I will not ride in the park. That lion is so damn big. I did not realize how heavy that cat is until I cut the track from the mud. After cleaning out the debris from the mud, the sheer size of that animal really stunned me. It just did not seem quite so big in the woods. Everyone said that is a huge lion. The 4.5 inch paws are big. What really struck me was how deep the prints went into the mud. the ground was very dry.

 

[Mike leroy]

My first eBike will be a hardtail. Unless I find something better, I think the One,15 hardtail is best for me. I am just going to stay away from that damn lion.

 

[Racingkyle]

You can add one as extra. That is why I called it the Pro. I would go with shocks.

Fork Grace Rigid Fork, Rock Shox Domain RC

Still not sure if the grace 15 will be available with shocks. hopefully.. still a hard tail though