I'm assuming this is all in good fun if not then a bit ridiculous. What he said in regards to tires is also accurate. Ya a Mercedes is usually heavier than a Civic....We will see once we get our bikes. Fatter tires are also heavier... nyeh nyeh nyeh.
@BET: Which bike is heavier?
Didn't say it was better, said it had some things that made it better for me. How do I know adjustable is better? Because it's obvious. You don't have to adjust it if you don't want but the option is always better. Put it this way if Espin told you for no extra cost they'd give you adjustable PAS would you take it? I'm not sure how the 700 originally came into it but I didn't bring it up. Either way.I dunno... this is an Espin thread in the Espin forum and you guys keep touting the benefits of R1U bikes and you guys don't even own one yet. Most of the other posters here actually own the Espin and prefer it.
I realize this is bias and preference, but unless you have both, it's really hard to say one is "better" than the other. I just go by facts and you guys throw all these other variables around... like fact, the Sport is only $1200... cheaper than the 500 (with rack and fenders), the 700 and the LMTd. But then you say the additional PAS is worth the extra money... how do you know?
And I think secretly BET like the Sport more than the 500. Has the chain fallen off the Sport yet?
I dunno... this is an Espin thread in the Espin forum and you guys keep touting the benefits of R1U bikes and you guys don't even own one yet. Most of the other posters here actually own the Espin and prefer it.
I realize this is bias and preference, but unless you have both, it's really hard to say one is "better" than the other. I just go by facts and you guys throw all these other variables around... like fact, the Sport is only $1200... cheaper than the 500 (with rack and fenders), the 700 and the LMTd. But then you say the additional PAS is worth the extra money... how do you know?
And I think secretly BET like the Sport more than the 500. Has the chain fallen off the Sport yet?
I doubt many own both. Even then a lot is subjective. The point isn't whether or not adjustable PAS costs more, you've been arguing that it isn't advantageous. I said for me it's ONE of the things that makes it worth the extra $250
. Glad to hear about the hydraulic brakes. That's one of the reasons I switched focus from the Core5 to the Espin sport , that and the suspension fork.( They look like they have the same frame) before I decided on the 700..I ride a bike pretty much every day and have been riding for many years. So yes, I can say.You can't claim that until you actually ride one.
You will not remind me again? Are you like the schoolmaster? Look it was relevant to the ability to adjust it. You mentioned it. this is literally one of the dumbest arguments I've ever had, if you want to convince yourself then having a choice is bad go ahead. Maybe you can find one of them old TVs with three channels. As for the $300 it isn't $300 you get 40 bucks off if you tell them you're going to use it to commute sometimes so it's really $255 . Better tires isn't just about puncture resistance it's about things like traction, ride quality, noise level. Granted who knows which is better until you do it back to back but from what I've read.... And if I really want slime I'll just get a jug of that stuff or slime tubes.
