civiletti
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I am more than satisfied with the Espin Sport. That it was from the first batch from a new manufacturer in a new nation of origin indicates commitment to quality control. I'd buy another if I needed a second bike.
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BigNerd
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About PAS customization, I was told by Espin that it could be changed to 9 levels but after test riding a Pace, I don’t think I’ll need that many.
As for looks/frame, I would agree the Sport looks more like the Core-5 but if that’s the case, would that mean more like the LMTd with the fenders, rack, lights and suspension fork?
As for looks/frame, I would agree the Sport looks more like the Core-5 but if that’s the case, would that mean more like the LMTd with the fenders, rack, lights and suspension fork?
Thank you ...that's very helpful
civiletti
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Did they say how it could be changed to nine levels?About PAS customization, I was told by Espin that it could be changed to 9 levels but after test riding a Pace, I don’t think I’ll need that many.
As for looks/frame, I would agree the Sport looks more like the Core-5 but if that’s the case, would that mean more like the LMTd with the fenders, rack, lights and suspension fork?
Taylor57
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Big Nerd-What bike did you end up ordering?
Taylor57
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Cool, when are you supposed to get your Sport? Mine is supposed to ship late Aug...
To each his own. I like the cobalt blue color of the Sport, the welds and tubes are nice. The bike is very comfortable to me. The models share some common components.
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Well you don't have to use all of the levels. You can actually set it for only five levels from what I saw in a video about the 700 series display on YouTube. again the odds are I'd be totally happy with the 1 to 5 on the Espin sport but in my book having the ability to adjust and customize if I want is definitely a plus.About PAS customization, I was told by Espin that it could be changed to 9 levels but after test riding a Pace, I don’t think I’ll need that many.
As for looks/frame, I would agree the Sport looks more like the Core-5 but if that’s the case, would that mean more like the LMTd with the fenders, rack, lights and suspension fork?
Dee. Yes I love my Espin Sport. It is a beautiful bike, very stable, and zippy. It seems very well put together. Nothing rattles. Rear rack is useful. I expected to replace the seat but even that was comfortable. Great deal. The hydraulic brakes are really nice. Stopping is very secure and predictable. Shifting is flawless. Controls are easy. I am 5'8" and it fits me well. Seat adjusts for taller riders. It is a big bike. If I were shorter or older I probably would order the step thru Flow. We liked it so much we ordered an Espin Nero fat tire bike for my husband. If you want a bike for commuting, for fun or for running errands I think you will like these bikes. A Bike should meet your needs.
No I do not use all nine PAS levels. I usually use first three levels. I ride in level 1 or 2 and go up hills in levels 2 or 3. I like to peddle. I go slower on the bike paths, 15 mph limit there. I prefer street riding. My son can change his Ride1up 500 to 9 levels but he has it set for 5 levels and likes it that way. Being able to adjust power at each level is nice but I do not feel the need to do that. My bike is very controllable in level 1. I have not tested top speed. The Ride1up may have a higher top speed (28) but throttle cuts out at 20 on all of these class 2/3 bikes. Maybe ask someone else about top speed on the Sport. On the Sport I can use the throttle at the same time as the PAS, ie when going up hills. I saw a discussion with Kevin from Ride1up saying the throttle and PAS will not work at the same time on the 500. However, since people complained he changed that and offered owners a software update. Ride1up is very responsive to buyers.Let’s ask someone who has both... @BET do you use all 9 PAS levels?
Yeah after having read about it I consider being able to use the throttle along with PAS to be a big plus, my 700 is supposed to ship this week and I'm under the impression that it will work that way as well. I imagine if you're riding mostly in flat areas, which I will be, but then hit the occasional hill would be nice to be able to just goose the throttle a bit.
I think to a certain extent were all guilty of confirmation bias. I doubt I will use all nine so maybe I'll change it to five levels. Or maybe with so many levels I'll make level one and two very subtle. I wouldn't argue that 9 levels is necessary but I also wouldn't argue that having a choice of 5 non adjustable levels is better than choosing between 5 levels, 7 levels or 9 levels that are all adjustableLet’s ask someone who has both... @BET do you use all 9 PAS levels?
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BigNerd
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I totally agree that *adjustable* levels are preferred... they should actually do that for any type of rear hub drive cadence sensor system. But practically speaking, I just don't know that there is much difference/variance between 9 levels of PAS because would you be looking at 2mph/4mph/6mph/8mph/12mph/16mph/20mph/24mph/28mph or 9 percentage steps or however you would set it up and what would be the usage for certain levels?
So while 9 levels may be a sell point for many... in the end... for me, it's not... but the *adjustable* part is. And then again, if the proper percentages of the levels are done correctly... then there may not even be a need for having it to be adjustable (like 5mph/10mph/15mph/20mph/28mph).
I think if the PAS 1 is set low enough to not cause unwanted speed boosts and PAS 5 can hit the top speed, that's good enough for me.
I guess because when I rode the Pace 500, Level 1 seemed pretty powerful to me that I figured Level 5 would probably only be used for hills. At the same time, this thought went into my head... it would be much faster to get to Level 5 then to Level 9 if I needed it... 4 less clicks.
So while 9 levels may be a sell point for many... in the end... for me, it's not... but the *adjustable* part is. And then again, if the proper percentages of the levels are done correctly... then there may not even be a need for having it to be adjustable (like 5mph/10mph/15mph/20mph/28mph).
I think if the PAS 1 is set low enough to not cause unwanted speed boosts and PAS 5 can hit the top speed, that's good enough for me.
I guess because when I rode the Pace 500, Level 1 seemed pretty powerful to me that I figured Level 5 would probably only be used for hills. At the same time, this thought went into my head... it would be much faster to get to Level 5 then to Level 9 if I needed it... 4 less clicks.
exactly, you could make level 1 a bit less powerful. I think the adjustments are in maximum percentage power at a given level. Plus as for your "level 5 only for hills" you could keep it in a lower level of assist and just use the throttle for a hill. I'm curious about how often people shift. I mean when pedaling a normal bike you can feel when you want/need to shift but I imagine with a good bit of assist it might be differentI totally agree that *adjustable* levels are preferred... they should actually do that for any type of rear hub drive cadence sensor system. But practically speaking, I just don't know that there is much difference/variance between 9 levels of PAS because would you be looking at 2mph/4mph/6mph/8mph/12mph/16mph/20mph/24mph/28mph or 9 percentage steps or however you would set it up and what would be the usage for certain levels?
So while 9 levels may be a sell point for many... in the end... for me, it's not... but the *adjustable* part is. And then again, if the proper percentages of the levels are done correctly... then there may not even be a need for having it to be adjustable (like 5mph/10mph/15mph/20mph/28mph).
I think if the PAS 1 is set low enough to not cause unwanted speed boosts and PAS 5 can hit the top speed, that's good enough for me.
I guess because when I rode the Pace 500, Level 1 seemed pretty powerful to me that I figured Level 5 would probably only be used for hills. At the same time, this thought went into my head... it would be much faster to get to Level 5 then to Level 9 if I needed it... 4 less clicks.
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yeah, we actually discussed that in previous threads. Not as important to me in this style of bike, but it would still qualify as a plus.
