I need more Advise, Please......

OlePhart

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we haven't even received our Ride1Up 700 series ebikes yet, and already know I know that my Sweet wife is not going to have enough room on the handlebars of her bike for her bell, cell phone, and such. Do they make such a thing like a 2nd handlebar that attaches to the main one to 'stick' more 'stuff' on?
I just know she is going to need MUCH more space than the narrow little handlebars of t he Ride1Up 700 I've seen pictures of...... Help and/or Advise would be Much appreciated.
OlePhart
 
we haven't even received our Ride1Up 700 series ebikes yet, and already know I know that my Sweet wife is not going to have enough room on the handlebars of her bike for her bell, cell phone, and such. Do they make such a thing like a 2nd handlebar that attaches to the main one to 'stick' more 'stuff' on?
I just know she is going to need MUCH more space than the narrow little handlebars of t he Ride1Up 700 I've seen pictures of...... Help and/or Advise would be Much appreciated.
OlePhart
Which bars did you get on your ordered 700? The one we got had the swept back bars and it ended up that my wife hated them (for hand position - she has one wrist which was badly broken in the past and has only partial movement).

I ordered a new, straight handlebar from Amazon for less than $20, and she now absolutely loves the riding position and the 'touch points' on her 700. Compared to the old bar, it seems like the new straight one would have a lot more room for accessories as well. And I didn't even go overboard and order a really long (wide) mountain bike bar either.

Really a pretty simple task to change bars on an e-bike if you are at least a little bit handy with tools. Also gives you the opportunity to customize the positioning of the components to your wife's preference.
 
That is Exactly What I'm Looking For.
Thanks Nova haibike.
OlePhart




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Hey there OlePhart (Love your handle by the way) - I have used these extensions myself on a couple bikes and they work awesome. Not only more space but you can angle the arm up an inch or two for better viewing.

One quick note -Note the lengths are only 10cm or 20cm typically depending on the model you select, which is quite short (especially the 10cm). I ended up getting two sets of the 20cm model and put one on each side of the handle bar (between the stem and the brakes) which added a lot of handlebar space that I took full advantage of.

Good luck!
 
Thanks So Much CdnShaun. Yes, I was thinking they are Really short (Story of my life)........
Believe I will get two for each bike. Ya can't have too many Air Horns.......Har Har........
 
Thanks So Much CdnShaun. Yes, I was thinking they are Really short (Story of my life)........
Believe I will get two for each bike. Ya can't have too many Air Horns.......Har Har........
You make us smile and blush a little with your wit and humour knowing you're 80 my new friend. 😂

I went digging for a photo to share, as it was a few years ago the last time I used these handle bar extensions - worked great for me on the bike I had at the time. I had my bike computer span the 'gap' between them which was a bonus.

Bell, cell phone holder, bike computer, old school Timex Watch with GPS and heart rate monitor (circa 2001?) on the chubby rubber mount, headlight and 2 water bottles.

Worked awesome for the time I had that bike. Upgraded the Bionx to a better bike and Jones bars and donated this bike to charity.

Cheers

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we haven't even received our Ride1Up 700 series ebikes yet, and already know I know that my Sweet wife is not going to have enough room on the handlebars of her bike for her bell, cell phone, and such. Do they make such a thing like a 2nd handlebar that attaches to the main one to 'stick' more 'stuff' on?
I just know she is going to need MUCH more space than the narrow little handlebars of t he Ride1Up 700 I've seen pictures of...... Help and/or Advise would be Much appreciated.
OlePhart


Hello, A great space-saving bell can be found at the link below. I have one of these bells on each of my bikes and have
received many compliments on the gentle, but effective ring. It's not loud, offensive or annoying which I value.
I ride rails to trails.


Good luck,
John
 
You make us smile and blush a little with your wit and humour knowing you're 80 my new friend. 😂

I went digging for a photo to share, as it was a few years ago the last time I used these handle bar extensions - worked great for me on the bike I had at the time. I had my bike computer span the 'gap' between them which was a bonus.

Bell, cell phone holder, bike computer, old school Timex Watch with GPS and heart rate monitor (circa 2001?) on the chubby rubber mount, headlight and 2 water bottles.

Worked awesome for the time I had that bike. Upgraded the Bionx to a better bike and Jones bars and donated this bike to charity.

Cheers

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Man, o Man, that's Really Cool to way you've got it 'fixed up'.
Those bars look twice the width of mine, I think. They almost Classify as 'Texas Longhorn' bars, huh?
Id've have donated it to charity also, it has WAY too many wires on it for me to try to figure out what they do......I'm a 'Simple Man'...
Thanks CdnShaun. Have a Blessed One!
OlePhart
 
Man, o Man, that's Really Cool to way you've got it 'fixed up'.
Those bars look twice the width of mine, I think. They almost Classify as 'Texas Longhorn' bars, huh?
Id've have donated it to charity also, it has WAY too many wires on it for me to try to figure out what they do......I'm a 'Simple Man'...
Thanks CdnShaun. Have a Blessed One!
OlePhart
Hello friend,

To show you the handle bar setup I replaced the above bike with - I went to a Jones Bar (so comfortable, swept back angles like a motorcycle grip, can ride for hours and hours) that as you can see below I bar wrapped the middle parts - use it to stretch my hands and switch grip positions.

Bike Motor display, Bike computer (got to keep an eye on the ol' ticker when I'm climbing the hills, lol), bell, mirror (must have) and a couple bottle holders with Zip ties this time next to the bike stem -managed to make everything fit without the extensions this time - but still have them just in case.

Let us know when you get out for your first ride!

Cheers
Shaun

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Hello, A great space-saving bell can be found at the link below. I have one of these bells on each of my bikes and have
received many compliments on the gentle, but effective ring. It's not loud, offensive or annoying which I value.
I ride rails to trails.


Good luck,
John
Believe it or not, I got one similar in size to that, but mine's a little 'Ringy-Dingy' type, kinda like the old style, but smaller.
Thanks Mucho, John from Connecticut, Have a Good'un.
OlePhart
Hello friend,

To show you the handle bar setup I replaced the above bike with - I went to a Jones Bar (so comfortable, swept back angles like a motorcycle grip, can ride for hours and hours) that as you can see below I bar wrapped the middle parts - use it to stretch my hands and switch grip positions.

Bike Motor display, Bike computer (got to keep an eye on the ol' ticker when I'm climbing the hills, lol), bell, mirror (must have) and a couple bottle holders with Zip ties this time next to the bike stem -managed to make everything fit without the extensions this time - but still have them just in case.

Let us know when you get out for your first ride!

Cheers
Shaun

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Man O Man, I like that Jones Bar. I believe that right there is Exactly what I need.
I need insulated water bottles also, what are those you have, if you don't mind my asking?
Thanks So Much, Shaun.
I Really hope to meet you and a few of the other guys, one day before they shovel dirt in my face.
Attached (hopefully) is a pic of the 'Pup Carts' I fashioned, for our 2
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IMG_20200626_084400.jpg'Watch Dogs' .......... HA!
Thanks Again,
OlePhart
 
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awesome dog carts!
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Thanks Vincent. I hope our Pups enjoy being 'towed' in them, but I Highly Doubt it......
we might have to let them run their asses off, where they'll be glad to Ride in anything..........
Har har
OlePhart
 
Hey OlePhart, (still can't get over the name you chosen and love calling it out, lol)

Happy to help with all I have learned and from first hand experience, all here in a thread where others can add thoughts and readers can see what we have shared.

Lots to share here, in no particular order, but I will number each item for reference. :cool:

1 - Trailer Choice
Awesome choice of trailer, in particular going with the two wheel configuration. I recall you suggesting your pups are in the 50-85lb range? Here's why I mention the 2 wheel trailer configuration:

I have a single wheel trailer for my rides. Grocery runs and soon camping trips pulling my camping gear - I'm not a minimalist when camping - Tent I can stand up in and keep my bike in at night (20lbs), decent inflatable mattress with built in pump (10lbs), pillow/sleeping bag/12" stakes/comfortable lawn chair (15lbs) - coming in at 40-45lbs carry weight.

Of course the camping gear idea wasn't thought of when I bought the trailer rather came to me as life evolves and I realized, I could.

Here's a photo of my Burley Coho XC with my current road going bike:
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The single wheel configuration tracks perfectly behind me, leans with me when I turn and I can go up to 45-50kmph downhills without issue.

But.

That's with up to 45lbs of weight in the trailer.

I tried putting 60lbs (batteries make great testing weight, lol) and the front wheel lifted so much I couldn't steer even at 20kmph...and the 'Tail was wagging the dog'.

I even tried spreading the weight out. I have panniers for the rear rack - putting 15lbs in the panniers and 45lbs in the trailer still had the front wheel lift sensation and too much weight going side to side - don't forget I'm a 270lb rider up on top as well, lol.

I learned through testing I have a trailer (23lb) and 45lb payload limit with my current road bike. I will repeat the testing when I finish my new bike build this summer and update you how I made out.

So again, great choice going with the two wheel configuration. What you give up in 'single tracking' and perhaps top speed you gain so much in stability and towing capacity. I wanted to share all of this with you and a final thought:

Before testing with the pups in the trailer, perhaps do some test rides with weighted items near their weights to see how you handle the trailer effect when you're riding.

2 - Using a trailer to carry your pups.

In my research for trailers I found this video and went to find it again to share with you. This gent has the same trailer as I have hence I found it - but the creator's experience and insight is of great value.


Describes his experience training his pup to ride in the trailer and the thoughts to his tie down point and length of leash.

3 - Insulated Water Bottles (and bonus, water backpack idea)

CamelBak makes awesome fluid transporting products. Famous for their 'backpacks' that can carry 1-3.5L of fluid and have a scubba diver type setup where you bite down on the mouth piece and get your fluids while riding. For example my favorite backpack style is:

Camelbak Rogue:

I put about 2.5L of water (and only ever put water in it is my recommendation) in it and found a spot in the fridge to keep it 24/7. This keeps the water cool and always ready to go a moments notice and stops the growth of mold - only have to wash it out every 6 months because I think I should, lol.

The cool water on your back is a bit of a bonus on hot rides and the two pockets are great - large pocket on the main flap takes my cell phone and the bottom pocket takes wallet and house keys. I use this for quick rides, trail riding in particular and the weight (when full) is only 5-6lbs (maybe a little bit more?) which isn't a bother on the ride at all.

I share this with you as you may want to have say 4-6L of fluids with you on the hot days you get there and going for long rides - might end up with a pack and bottles - lots of options for you to consider.

As for the bottles, I found the Camelbak 'Podium Chill' and 'Big Podium Chill' work awesome. There is 3 generations of them out now - small changes such as spout size at the top - all work great. Some reviewers will complain about one generation to another, but in general they all like them.

The 'Podium Big Chill' I find work best. They come in 21, 24 and 25 oz sizes - this only really matters when buying multiple and wanting them to be the same size.

One key measurement - the 25 oz model is just a hair under 11" from bottom to tip - most bottle mounts will accept a bottle that long/large (behave now when you reply, lol ;) ) but wanted to mention it to you - and yes I just pulled out a tape measure to measure one of mine here on my desk at the moment. 😂

Here's the Amazon link to the bottles I suggest, Camelbak Podium Big Chill 25oz:

Price will vary week to week as supplies of each colour comes available. Also if they are price gouging you can look at the slightly smaller choice:

Camelbak Podium Chill 21oz:

The 21oz has the same width and top/spout as the Big Chill - just a bit shorter and slightly lighter as it has 4oz less capacity.

Water Bottle Tip:
I have a rotation of 8 bottles I collected over a few years. I fill each bottle to 1/3 and leave it in my freezer with the lid off. When I'm ready to go for a ride I grab a couple bottles and fill them up with just water, water and mix, whatever I want - each bottle now has a fist size ice cube in the bottom.

First bottles go on the bike, extras go in the carry bag. I did a ride recently in 90F heat and at 6 hours into the 8 hours I was out in the sun, the last 2 bottles I pulled out of the bag still had some of their cube block at the bottom and were cold/cool to drink until I got home.


4 - Jones Bars and Ergon Grips

Love my Jones Bars. I started out with mountain bikes last year and still love the wide flat bars for trail riding for 1-2 hours at a time. When I switched to road riding and going longer than 2 hours the flat bars were giving me wrist and elbow grief (and I'm half your age, har har har) so I went looking for a solution.

The Jones Bars are 45 degree swept back and completely change the riding position/grip you are in. Here's a video of the inventor talking about them:


The model I went with was the Jones H-Bar Loop SG 2.5 - why? The 2.5 marks a 2.5" 'lift' in height you gain as well for more upright riding. I also went with the 710mm (vs the 660mm) as the few extra inches (behave again my friend, lol) give more grip choices and frankly the slightly wider grip at the ends of the bars is an amazing position.



As for grips on the bars - I did start with the options from Jones. They have gel and foam choices that go on the bars right up to the junction point and are great value/cost -
Gel


Foam


The gel is a bit thicker which I liked. The foam was a bit better for longer rides which I also liked.

Continue my research and knowing from my mountain bike setups - making me a fan of Ergon grips - I found they offered a particular grip style for 'swept back' handle bars - the GC1:


Gel type grip:

BioKork:

Might give the BioKork type a try, but I do love the gel style grip and you can see them on the photo I posted ealier in this thread. With the shape and design of the grip it makes for comfortable weight distribution versus just a bar grip or even their traditional grips meant for mountain bikes.

Purchasing tip: If you do give these grips a try on any swept back bars (Jones or other) - Make sure to get the 'Regular' style and not 'Rohloff/Nexus' - the Rohloff/Nexus has a shorten right grip meant to be matched with a 'twist shifter' for your derailleur.

The first set of Ergon's I ever ordered had the Nexus model shipped to me and I had to do an exchange with the vendor to correct it, hence I share my lesson learned with you.

If interested in the above configurations, Jones Bars are only sold (that I know of) from his own website that I linked to - My order was shipped to Canada without issue. The Ergon grips can be found on Amazon (watch out for the Nexus style GC1's) and other online bike retailers if you google for them. the GC1 grey gel type are harder to come by I found (and again now looking) but you can find them if you want them, The BioKork are available right away on Amazon for example:


5 - Ride together

I believe you're in Texas? I do look forward to meeting up with awesome members from here in the years to come. I'm north of the 49th parallel (Ontario, Canada) so with the way 2020 is going I doubt I will be making any travel into the U.S. (border has been closed to non-essential travel for a few months now) until next year. That said I have a long time buddy who lives in Texas and I'm overdue to visit him and when I do I will be driving down with my bike on the carrier for sure, anything is possible.


Take care OlePhart!
Shaun
 
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Wow Shaun great write up, thanks for taking the time

I have been considering a trailer off and on for certain stuff and appreciate reading about your experiences etc.

cannot wait to see some pictures and videos of olephart dog rides!
 
Me again OlePhart,

Silly me - I took a moment to refresh my memory of the Ride1Up 700 - they come with swept back bars, correct?

The grips I suggested would still be a possible upgrade of the stock grips. The Jones Bar again would be a further back sweep than the stock bar and an upgrade for you to consider.

The insulated bottles will work well with the bottle mount and the 11" height I mentioned will be appreciated when reaching down between your legs to get a hold of it (behave! lol) and with a couple extra bottles in the bag like I do will work well for you.

Cheers!
 
Wow Shaun great write up, thanks for taking the time

I have been considering a trailer off and on for certain stuff and appreciate reading about your experiences etc.

cannot wait to see some pictures and videos of olephart dog rides!

Happy to share vincent!

The Burley Coho XC is simply amazing single wheel trailer. I have the mounting 'Burley Ballz' (that's their real name, lol - simply the 10mm replacement nuts for the rear axle on my bikes, thru axel option is available as well) on multiple bikes so I can pull the trailer with my 135mm rear axle road bike (photo above) and my 170mm and even my 190mm rear axle Fat Bikes.

The more desired 3"x 16" 'fat tire' is sold separately and is the only tire I have used so far. While it's the must have for trail riding it also works great on road, the stock 2.125" x 16" tire it ships with (aka their 'road tire') should work well - I'm overdue to a test ride with it (will share when I do) - and for now when I go away over night, I toss it in the trailer and bring it as a ready to go spare.

The spring suspension is awesome and adjustable. I have yet to need to adjust mine as the stock setting it came with works well for the 30-40lbs I typically carry.

And as mentioned - real world experience - side of the highway cooking along at 25-40kmph was no problem at all. I was worried I would need to keep my speed to 20-25kmph or less with a trailer but the single wheel design just flows behind you when you're cruising.

Would I use a trailer without a motor? Maybe but likely not...lol - but man, with a motor and a trailer the possibilities are endless.

Cheers bud!
Shaun
 
I also have Jones loop bars on most of my bikes and really like them

Shaun look forward to hearing more reports on how your trailers are doing in the future
 
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