new_ebiker
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i m a proud owner of the 2019 explore e3, it’s amazing. I miss it in days I can’t commute with it
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Giant 2020 ebikes?
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i m a proud owner of the 2019 explore e3, it’s amazing. I miss it in days I can’t commute with it
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new_ebiker
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I guess I never posted here on the new bike... [shrug]
Loving life!
My bike is almost identical as yours. Except I still running the stock tire, added the official rear rack and the shop routed the ride one control module wire through the right opening frame hole
Slow Rider
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In some countries the 2020 Giant FastRoad E+ EX Pro and 2020 Giant Revolt E+ Pro are 45kph/28mph, ie Class 3. Best to ask a dealer in your country.
I would agree with that. For some years Yamaha has been doing some 45kph/28mph. Here in Canada the importer is taking no chance. Only a few model are available and in very small numbers. Even now i would not be able to get my size on a 2020 on some models, sold out for the next 11 months.
Leave it to Bureau craps to stick their noses into something they have no Business in.
Browneye
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For me the discount was more valuable than the minor changes - I got the '19 Explore+3 instead of the '20 +4.
You might find value in this thread: https://electricbikereview.com/foru...e-4-ride-control-one-issue.30359/#post-228362
In particular, post #10 is about the changes from year over year on that model. I can't advise you directly on the QuickE. AFAIK there is nothing major, no new design parameters or radical equipment updates or changes.
For me the 2020 was all black so getting a discount on a much nicer looking bike was like a triple bonus.
All that said, you might also look at the Haibike Sduro Trekking2.0 - I think it's similar in price and has all the goodies on it. Well, unless you don't have a dealer local.
While I love my Giant I likely would have gotten the Haibike - I think there's a little more innovation for similar $$. It turns out I have a local dealer but didn't know they carried the line. One would have thought they would show you their models when you were in the shop.
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You might find value in this thread: https://electricbikereview.com/foru...e-4-ride-control-one-issue.30359/#post-228362
In particular, post #10 is about the changes from year over year on that model. I can't advise you directly on the QuickE. AFAIK there is nothing major, no new design parameters or radical equipment updates or changes.
For me the 2020 was all black so getting a discount on a much nicer looking bike was like a triple bonus.
All that said, you might also look at the Haibike Sduro Trekking2.0 - I think it's similar in price and has all the goodies on it. Well, unless you don't have a dealer local.
While I love my Giant I likely would have gotten the Haibike - I think there's a little more innovation for similar $$. It turns out I have a local dealer but didn't know they carried the line. One would have thought they would show you their models when you were in the shop.
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steve mercier
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I doubt you could go far wrong with either bike.For me the discount was more valuable than the minor changes - I got the '19 Explore+3 instead of the '20 +4.
You might find value in this thread: https://electricbikereview.com/foru...e-4-ride-control-one-issue.30359/#post-228362
In particular, post #10 is about the changes from year over year on that model. I can't advise you directly on the QuickE. AFAIK there is nothing major, no new design parameters or radical equipment updates or changes.
For me the 2020 was all black so getting a discount on a much nicer looking bike was like a triple bonus.
All that said, you might also look at the Haibike Sduro Trekking2.0 - I think it's similar in price and has all the goodies on it. Well, unless you don't have a dealer local.
While I love my Giant I likely would have gotten the Haibike - I think there's a little more innovation for similar $$. It turns out I have a local dealer but didn't know they carried the line. One would have thought they would show you their models when you were in the shop.
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DaveMatthews
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The 2019 comes with the energypak 500, and some of the 2020 models have moved to 400, so if the 2020 is actually energypak 400, I'd get the 2019
That Haibike model is going on sale for Black Friday , $2299 .
500wh vs 400wh
10 speed vs 9 speed
Actually , Giant may have the more innovative battery tech .
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/news/all-you-need-to-know-about-panasonic-e-bike-batteries/23652
Any difference in how the Yamaha drive is tuned by Giant vs Haibike ?
500wh vs 400wh
10 speed vs 9 speed
Actually , Giant may have the more innovative battery tech .
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/news/all-you-need-to-know-about-panasonic-e-bike-batteries/23652
Any difference in how the Yamaha drive is tuned by Giant vs Haibike ?
Complaint here: I developed a scraping/grinding sound in my PW-SE over a month ago. The dealer agrees that it definitely doesn't sound right. I have yet to receive any assistance from Yamaha. They may have a 3 year warranty but good luck getting results on a claim.
steve mercier
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It could be that your dealer has not established accurate contact with the Yamaha rep? Wrong email or new rep etc? Please let us know how your saga ends.
I think we each have a few priorities. A few hours ago i did 20 min. on a Giant 2020 and the 27.5x2.6 looked huge.
For me wide rims are valuable. The 2019 Giant are all sold and i have not seen anything attracting in the
2019 Haibike available in my size. I would buy either brand they do not have major improvements year to year just
small ones. In january a container is expected so with the cold here i might find what i want in a few months.
Happy shopping.
For me wide rims are valuable. The 2019 Giant are all sold and i have not seen anything attracting in the
2019 Haibike available in my size. I would buy either brand they do not have major improvements year to year just
small ones. In january a container is expected so with the cold here i might find what i want in a few months.
Happy shopping.
Browneye
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I'd bet my bottom dollar they'll make it right. Yamaha makes fantastic products in all kinds of fields. Your dealer will make it happen for you.
We have a huge Yamaha facility here locally, some kind of development and/or distribution center - Cerritos or Cypress CA
Their outboards, motorcycles, and jetskis (waverunner) are the tops in their market. Some of the best you can get.
Back in the 80's they even made fiberglass racing sailboats. And then there's all those musical instruments. I have total and complete faith in them as a corporation. Keep your channels open and you'll get satisfaction.
We have a huge Yamaha facility here locally, some kind of development and/or distribution center - Cerritos or Cypress CA
Their outboards, motorcycles, and jetskis (waverunner) are the tops in their market. Some of the best you can get.
Back in the 80's they even made fiberglass racing sailboats. And then there's all those musical instruments. I have total and complete faith in them as a corporation. Keep your channels open and you'll get satisfaction.
Mtl_Biker
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Looks really nice! But is your rear rack really only supported by the clamp on the seat post? I'd be afraid to put too much weight on it.I guess I never posted here on the new bike... [shrug]
Loving life!
Saratoga Dave
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That Explore really is a great looking bike. Like that shroud over the crank... really good color on the bike too.
Browneye
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I've had that rear rack for a number of years, was on two previous bikes. Only that top-bag goes on it, it's not used for panniers or cargo. It's plenty sturdy, but surely if I was going to put more than ten pounds or so on it I would get one with proper supports back to the axle points. It's pretty slick though, innocuous, out of the way, and has a splash guard in it. I want to add a taillight.
I do like the color much better than the 2020 black. I would have accepted it if that's all they had, but as soon as I saw the '19 photo at the dealer, and he said it was the last one and it had to ship from New York, but he'd give me a killer out the door price, I said SOLD.
I didn't think I wanted to spend that much money on a bike, but now riding it and looking at what else is out there, I might have chosen differently. Overall very happy with it though.
Our last trip out we covered about 25 miles, which is double what we normally do - we're old
- but I was ready for more and had 60% battery capacity left.And the smartphone app is really cool, like it a lot. I've got it figured out and configured to where it is easy to use and works really well. You do need to have some kind of power source for your phone though as it's a power and resource hog. I've added a small charge-brick in that rear bag and a lightening cable up to the phone mount. A little macgyver'd but it works really well. The ROAM phone mount is really nice - cheap to, they're like $15 or something.
I really didn't think I would like the saddle but it's surprisingly comfortable. The 2020 versions seems a little more extreme, more like a mtb seat.
I got to try my first 'dropper seat' while testing riding emtb's - pretty cool, I had never heard of those. Great for getting to 'attack-stance' on a mountain bike.
Mtl_Biker
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You made me laugh with your "we're old" comment. I'm old too!I've had that rear rack for a number of years, was on two previous bikes. Only that top-bag goes on it, it's not used for panniers or cargo. It's plenty sturdy, but surely if I was going to put more than ten pounds or so on it I would get one with proper supports back to the axle points. It's pretty slick though, innocuous, out of the way, and has a splash guard in it. I want to add a taillight.
I do like the color much better than the 2020 black. I would have accepted it if that's all they had, but as soon as I saw the '19 photo at the dealer, and he said it was the last one and it had to ship from New York, but he'd give me a killer out the door price, I said SOLD.
I didn't think I wanted to spend that much money on a bike, but now riding it and looking at what else is out there, I might have chosen differently. Overall very happy with it though.
Our last trip out we covered about 25 miles, which is double what we normally do - we're old
And the smartphone app is really cool, like it a lot. I've got it figured out and configured to where it is easy to use and works really well. You do need to have some kind of power source for your phone though as it's a power and resource hog. I've added a small charge-brick in that rear bag and a lightening cable up to the phone mount. A little macgyver'd but it works really well. The ROAM phone mount is really nice - cheap to, they're like $15 or something.
I really didn't think I would like the saddle but it's surprisingly comfortable. The 2020 versions seems a little more extreme, more like a mtb seat.
I got to try my first 'dropper seat' while testing riding emtb's - pretty cool, I had never heard of those. Great for getting to 'attack-stance' on a mountain bike.
Funny that you had your bike shipped across country for you... I did the same to get my 2019 Explore E+1 GTS... it was the last one in all of Canada and I had it shipped from Edmonton to me in Montreal. Cost a small fortune, but I got the bike I wanted. And I didn't get any price break either... but luckily Edmonton has no Provincial sales tax so the 9.5% Quebec tax I saved covered the shipping. So pretty much the same as if I'd bought it locally. And my local Giant dealer (dedicated Giant dealer) is happy to support me and he knows I would have bought from him if it had been possible.
I've got a Kinekt suspension seat post on mine and I love it.
Happy riding! (You lucky guy being in California... here in Montreal it's snowing at the moment.)
U mind refreshing My Memory : What is it they do to make these faster ?Not from the factory.
When the warranty is up...then all bets are off.
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